ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

[bobby53]

Thanks bobby for your fast reply
I was changing my setup, so this didn't happen anymore. Before I was using the stock ShamWoW which came with HB.

As I have an issue again I've updated now and keep getting the following error:
My Shaman turned 62 and after that HB stopped working with the error: "This profile does not contain any profiles fitting the character!"

I've added one point (as per the plugin Talented), but keep getting this error. For the moment I'm not able to use this great CC - and it's REALLY fucking great... The healing is incredible... Not any complain so far from anyone in a random group, except now where the bot just stopped and I didn't realise it soon enough

Attached the error log I've just created.

-edit-
I think I've fixed the issue on my own.
I was loading now a Blank profile (was on mixed mode with party + instance buddy) and now it seems to work.

What I'm not understanding is, why it was working before and then just stopped

cm2003, Thanks and glad in general its working well for you. The message you cited:

This profile does not contain any profiles fitting the character!

is an HonorBuddy message that can be confusing, but means exactly what it says. You are using the questing profile:

[H] 1-60 Orc TopK [Kick].xml

which is for characters level 1 to 60, but your toon is Level 62. You'll want to switch to a profile appropriate for your current level. It looks like you were using the Party Bot so the profile you are using isn't actually used, but the level ranges defined within it are still validated. For what you are doing, you probably should switch to a blank.xml (attached) profile so it won't get in your way. If you go back to Questing, then you should switch to the Outlands quest profiles for the 60-70 range.

Thanks for the log file and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[EntaroAdun88]

You know what the best thing about ShamWoW is?

Raiding endgame with the most healing done, the highest HPS, and when people ask me about Shaman spells, I don't have a motherfucking clue at all!

 

[cm2003]

Sorry, I've copied you the wrong error text. It was stating that for my Talentbuild was no configuration. This error came from ShamWOW.
Still I believe the issue is solved with the blank profile I'm using now.

Thanks anyway!

 

[bobby53]

Sorry, I've copied you the wrong error text. It was stating that for my Talentbuild was no configuration. This error came from ShamWOW.
Still I believe the issue is solved with the blank profile I'm using now.

Thanks anyway!

cm2003, No worries, but the reason your character was standing still was the " profile does not contain any profiles fitting the character" message. That issue is fixed by loading ANY .xml profile that defines the allowed character range to include a Level 62 character. Blank.xml allows 1-85 so it resolved that issue. The talent build message you described came from the Talented plug-in and not ShamWOW. Either the plug-in was enabled but no talent build selected in the plug-in configuration, or there is no .xml config file for the selected talent build installed with your copy of Talented. For Talented support you'll want to post in the HonorBuddy Support thread. Good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

You know what the best thing about ShamWoW is? Raiding endgame with the most healing done, the highest HPS, and when people ask me about Shaman spells, I don't have a motherfucking clue at all!

EntaroAdun88, That is too funny! +rep Glad you're getting good results with it. Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[Ruinit]

Bobby here is that error on spamming windfurry/flame tongue hope it helps

 

[jeffgtx]

Hey Bobby53, as always thank you for your continued support and development on what is easily the most complete CC available. I have a couple feature suggestions and one issue I'd love to hear your thoughts on.


On the topic of Healing Rain...

If you really want an automated Healing Rain cast with a user specified number of friendlies triggering it, please advise of the specific combat scenario that requires recognizing less than 4 (which is less than what it should be already.)

Healing Rain does seem to be under utilized on fights where static spawn points are used for the purpose of AOE healing. For example, the final phase of Beth'tilac, phase 2 of Chimaeron, Arcanatron up on Omnitron Defense System, etc. Could I suggest an implementation where Healing Rain is cast on cooldown at the feet of Shaman if in combat, in raid and an additional 3+ players are in range of the Shaman? Ideally this would be toggled by a checkbox on the Group Healing tab.

Also, if this could be combined with logic for detecting the Focused Insight talents and Flame Shock cast on unfriendly target in range would be far beyond win.

Additionally on Chimaeron...
One thing I've noticed with this fight, is that it seems to be kind of jerky when picking up players from 1hp until the tank has been healed sufficiently (which is usually not the assigned role of the shaman). Focus only healing in theory would perform okay on this (have not attempted this since Focus only healing was repaired) but an option for turning off the tank priority could probably allow for a solid set of Spell Percentages to be found for this fight.

Issue with totems
Also, I seemed to be having some issues with totems the other night. I'm not particularly sure what was going on but going through the logs it indicated a few failures casting "Call of the Elements" and my totem uptime was pretty drastically impaired. There was another Resto Shammy in group at the time, but I can't find any indication that that was a factor. If you could take a look, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Logs: Beth'tilac - Totem Issue View attachment Logs.zip

 

[LiquidAtoR]

Hey Bobby,

On a sidenote I recall you asking about logging players when from the same faction (horde/alliance).
I had a chance in a RBG where we played horde side (while being alliance) against another alliance team.
So I remembered and pressed the Log Players button and here are the results (did it twice, I've cut out the rest of the stuff).
If this was not the thing you needed then just discard it

Hope it's of use to you.
Regards, LiquidAtoR.

 

[bobby53]

Hey Bobby, On a sidenote I recall you asking about logging players when from the same faction (horde/alliance).
I had a chance in a RBG where we played horde side (while being alliance) against another alliance team.
So I remembered and pressed the Log Players button and here are the results (did it twice, I've cut out the rest of the stuff).
If this was not the thing you needed then just discard it Hope it's of use to you.
Regards, LiquidAtoR.

Thanks Liquid. Not the results I was hoping for but atleast its conclusive. Thanks for passing it along, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

...
On the topic of Healing Rain...
Healing Rain does seem to be under utilized on fights where static spawn points are used for the purpose of AOE healing. For example, the final phase of Beth'tilac, phase 2 of Chimaeron, Arcanatron up on Omnitron Defense System, etc. Could I suggest an implementation where Healing Rain is cast on cooldown at the feet of Shaman if in combat, in raid and an additional 3+ players are in range of the Shaman? Ideally this would be toggled by a checkbox on the Group Healing tab. Also, if this could be combined with logic for detecting the Focused Insight talents and Flame Shock cast on unfriendly target in range would be far beyond win.

It will cast Healing Rain for 4+ on cooldown if you change the heal %'s to match your prioritization for heal spell selection. For any additional framework change I would need justification linked from EJ explaining the need for that behavior.

Additionally on Chimaeron...
One thing I've noticed with this fight, is that it seems to be kind of jerky when picking up players from 1hp until the tank has been healed sufficiently (which is usually not the assigned role of the shaman). Focus only healing in theory would perform okay on this (have not attempted this since Focus only healing was repaired) but an option for turning off the tank priority could probably allow for a solid set of Spell Percentages to be found for this fight.

The RAF Healing Style setting shown in the log file was 'Auto' which heals everyone with a priority on saving the tank and/or self if dangerously low. Change the setting to enforce raid only healing.

Issue with totems
Also, I seemed to be having some issues with totems the other night. I'm not particularly sure what was going on but going through the logs it indicated a few failures casting "Call of the Elements" and my totem uptime was pretty drastically impaired. There was another Resto Shammy in group at the time, but I can't find any indication that that was a factor. If you could take a look, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Logs: Beth'tilac - Totem Issue View attachment 26836

A couple failures appear to be where the user manually cast Call of the Elements as there is no corresponding Call of the Elements cast by ShamWOW to match the failure. The failure message was 'Not yet recovered' so it appears that the manual cast was attempted during a GCD. If you notice totems not being cast, it would be easier to look into if a specific occurance

Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[jeffgtx]

It will cast Healing Rain for 4+ on cooldown if you change the heal %'s to match your prioritization for heal spell selection. For any additional framework change I would need justification linked from EJ explaining the need for that behavior.

I don't know that I can provide a specific paragraph stating exactly what you're looking for here.. however:

• From Elitist Jerks Resto Raiding
• "How to heal raid: Save your mana with Healing Wave in phases without much damage. Use Healing Rain and Chain Heal in damage phases. Learn to anticipate those on each boss."
  -While Honorbuddy cannot anticipate periods of heavy damage, it can observe player behavior regarding distance. Since these damage bursts typically coincide with the raid stacking so that AOE spells can be used by the healers, this implementation would largely fall in line with what the EJ author is refering to here. The main problem with tweaking the values to try and get a more frequent cast time is that it's having to react to player health, and I've yet to find a set of values that will model this kind of proactive behavior.
  
• "Do you want Focused Insights? It can be a strong talent if used correctly, but unfortunately its use is limited to Healing Rain spam on Beth'tilac in Firelands."
  -I would have preferred the author list more examples, however this is a very strong example. This also reinforces the idea that it should be paired with a mechanic to cast Flame Shock.
  
• "Earthliving will proc off: Riptide, Healing Wave, Lesser Healing Wave, any bounce of Chain Heal, and any Healing Rain ticks."
  - Can't go wrong with higher Earthliving up-time on damage heavy fights.

The RAF Healing Style setting shown in the log file was 'Auto' which heals everyone with a priority on saving the tank and/or self if dangerously low. Change the setting to enforce raid only healing.

I was under the impression that "Raid Healing (Only)" would disable healing on the tanks completely and ignore them as heal targets. I would prefer it continue to contribute to healing the tanks as though they were any other raid member as our Pally Tank Healer is terrible and usually needs help.

A couple failures appear to be where the user manually cast Call of the Elements as there is no corresponding Call of the Elements cast by ShamWOW to match the failure. The failure message was 'Not yet recovered' so it appears that the manual cast was attempted during a GCD. If you notice totems not being cast, it would be easier to look into if a specific occurance

I was manually casting totems after noticing I didn't have any totems up. I'll see if I can recreate and produce a better log.

 

[atg68]

I made a shaman specifically because of the reputation this CC has on the forum.. and I have to say, it does NOT disapoint.. I am constantly top healer in WSG with at least 2x as much healing done as anyone else.. and sometimes as much as 4x..

amazing

 

[Stree]

Hey bobby, I am posting with yet another request.

Is it possible to have the CC use Grounding totem in arenas, but only when an enemy player is casting a spell like Polymorph, Hex, Mind Control, Cyclone. Then as soon as the totem absorbs the spell, re-cast the selected totem for that slot?

 

[bobby53]

I don't know that I can provide a specific paragraph stating exactly what you're looking for here.. however:

• From Elitist Jerks Resto Raiding
• "How to heal raid: Save your mana with Healing Wave in phases without much damage. Use Healing Rain and Chain Heal in damage phases. Learn to anticipate those on each boss."
  -While Honorbuddy cannot anticipate periods of heavy damage, it can observe player behavior regarding distance. Since these damage bursts typically coincide with the raid stacking so that AOE spells can be used by the healers, this implementation would largely fall in line with what the EJ author is refering to here. The main problem with tweaking the values to try and get a more frequent cast time is that it's having to react to player health, and I've yet to find a set of values that will model this kind of proactive behavior.

• 
  By definition, you can't be proactive with a prioritization based upon Health % since its a reactionary mechanic. If you want proactive (anticipation) behavior, you'll need to play manually.
  
  

  [*] "Do you want Focused Insights? It can be a strong talent if used correctly, but unfortunately its use is limited to Healing Rain spam on Beth'tilac in Firelands." -I would have preferred the author list more examples, however this is a very strong example. This also reinforces the idea that it should be paired with a mechanic to cast Flame Shock.

  Focused Insight can be a strong talent when you can anticipate (there's that word again) damage and proc the buff before it is needed. Delaying a heal by an additional GCD when it is needed (as defined by the Health %) is not a good idea (I was originally doing it for GHW and HR.) I'll look at a possible change for Focused Insight that saves it for HR only where presumeably an extra GCD won't be life or death.
  
  

  I was under the impression that "Raid Healing (Only)" would disable healing on the tanks completely and ignore them as heal targets. I would prefer it continue to contribute to healing the tanks as though they were any other raid member as our Pally Tank Healer is terrible and usually needs help.

  It's all about assigning responsibilities. If you want to heal everyone then Auto is your choice. Auto won't require the tank is topped off before healing raid members but it will require it get to above the Emergency Heal % configured. You could try setting the Emergency Heal % to 0% and it will never prioritize the tank or yourself above another raid member. These alternatives are working well however so I don't see a change needed.
  
  

  I was manually casting totems after noticing I didn't have any totems up. I'll see if I can recreate and produce a better log.

  Thanks, that would help. It can get into a situation where people need heals too quickly and it doesn't get totems cast and since casting needed heals is a higher priority than casting totems, it gets delayed. That prioritization works well when there is a gap of time at the start of a fight where players don't need heals immediately, but that isn't always the case such as a protracted fight with multiple healers where there is some tolerance for making sure totems are down before healing. I'll consider this further and see if there some behavior specific to raids that can be added along with additional logging showing the totem state each pass rather than only at intervals where totems are being contemplated for setting.

 

[bobby53]

I made a shaman specifically because of the reputation this CC has on the forum.. and I have to say, it does NOT disapoint.. I am constantly top healer in WSG with at least 2x as much healing done as anyone else.. and sometimes as much as 4x..

amazing

atg68, Thanks for sharing your ShamWOW success! +rep Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

Hey bobby, I am posting with yet another request.

Is it possible to have the CC use Grounding totem in arenas, but only when an enemy player is casting a spell like Polymorph, Hex, Mind Control, Cyclone. Then as soon as the totem absorbs the spell, re-cast the selected totem for that slot?

Yes, that is in the list of PVP items still to be done.

 

[HB8654A32]

Thanks Liquid. Not the results I was hoping for but atleast its conclusive. Thanks for passing it along, Bobby53

Looking at that log bobby I can see the flags arent right for the opposing team , is that variable/flag one that is sent from HB ?

 

[LiquidAtoR]

Thanks Liquid. Not the results I was hoping for but atleast its conclusive. Thanks for passing it along, Bobby53

If you need any other logging done regarding this let me know.
I'm doing arena's and RBG's alot lately and still have a few days to go before I go to work.
Ofcourse RBG is easier to log than Arena (due to moving alot) but I guess when I meet such a team I could press that button a few times ^^

 

[shaorinor]

HonorBuddy Mode: Quest

Shamans Location: Tol Barad Peninsula

What should have happened (be specific): When fighting 2 or more NPCs, enhancement shaman should summon fire elemental/earth elemental/feral spirits

What did happen (be specific): He doesn't summon them unless I remove the check mark restricting him to reserve casting these for level +3/ +2 or more mobs

Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time): Everytime, using ShamWOW 4.5.02

Log included of my last bout, but this problem is not restricted to tol barad. Any fight with 2 or more NPCs, my enhancement shammy does not summon elementals or feral spirits. He did do this in previous iterations of ShamWOW, so I'm not sure if it's just the latest release or if it's a "user fubar" error.

 

[Ruinit]

Any luck bobby on tracking down why 4502 is spamming wind furry/flame tongue in enhanced sometimes? My log is a few pages back. I have reverted back to 4401. It doesn't do it.

TIA