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PiroxBots is Closing, All Aboard thebuddyforum

honorbuddy is better than pirox by far. So who cares if pirox or any of the other kiddy script programs come back :P
frankly you're so ignorant it makes you sound like a 14y old kid and i can't stand it. how in god's name can someone make such a stupid comment? seriously. you sound like the kid you're trying to bash. so hb runs perfectly for you and we're just to stupid to set it up? ok mr.obviously, how would you fix this as a user? http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...on-mesh-errors-problems-post-them-here-7.html

@no1knowsy:
i agree with you and i mentioned before that hb at it's core is a better bot. but you said it yourself. hb can do a lot more things and is way better due to injections. but it doesn't work without babysitting. as you said if you're just using it for earning some hornor while you babysit it, it's ok. tho the BG bot is way behind pirox. and that's a fact. but if you wanna farm with 50+ bots without babysitting them for a week, the truth is hb can't do this and pirox can. and this is what it's about.

hb can do much more, it has more potential, true. but it doesn't work. the bg bot is too stupid and is not working like intended. farming does not work with mass bots and afk AH. questing doesn't work afk due to bad meshes all over. so how can this be a perfect situation you guys are all talking about? plz explain it to me.

i'm not even talking about the licences. i am willing to pay. but the bot must work.
 
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frankly you're so ignorant it makes you sound like a 14y old kid and i can't stand it. how in god's name can someone make such a stupid comment? seriously. you sound like the kid you're trying to bash. so hb runs perfectly for you and we're just to stupid to set it up? ok mr.obviously, how would you fix this as a user? http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...on-mesh-errors-problems-post-them-here-7.html

@no1knowsy:
i agree with you and i mentioned before that hb at it's core is a better bot. but you said it yourself. hb can do a lot more things and is way better due to injections. but it doesn't work without babysitting. as you said if you're just using it for earning some hornor while you babysit it, it's ok. tho the BG bot is way behind pirox. and that's a fact. but if you wanna farm with 50+ bots without babysitting them for a week, the truth is hb can't do this and pirox can. and this is what it's about.

hb can do much more, it has more potential, true. but it doesn't work. the bg bot is too stupid and is not working like intended. farming does not work with mass bots and afk AH. questing doesn't work afk due to bad meshes all over. so how can this be a perfect situation you guys are all talking about? plz explain it to me.

i'm not even talking about the licences. i am willing to pay. but the bot must work.

I done 1-80 questing with little to no hand interaction. Now trying the 80-85.

I don't notice many problems with HB. Only that the BG bot is currently crap (but its being worked on I hear) The only mesh problem I have is that if I'm a huge beef tauren then I may get stuck in doors on my kodo. Other than that, no problems.

Pirox was good, had some pretty awesome features. But I'm sure overtime HB will be adapted to cover features pirox did.
 
To be honest this thread should be closed as its rapidly descending into fighting which is pointless.
 
You still use Pirox even after he made the deal with Blizzard?
Why risk your accounts with his shady crap?

I personally still use Pirox on my farm accounts because I can't quite yet afford to buy the amount of keys I would need to use them all with HB, NEVER on my main though. I have a single key that I bought and I am still trying to get the hang of HB, and I must say I LOVE the questing ability of HB, although as stated it does require some babysitting, but nothing as if you were actually doing it yourself =P. All in all HB seems to be far more capable than Pirox ever was(with the exception of BG's obviously, which I hear will be fixed with BG bot2). My personal fave though are the custom CC's that can be used. Nothing like healing DS or Firelands and only worrying about movement, and staying competitive with my healing. This alone will be the reason that I will be an HB user till the end. ;)
 
I done 1-80 questing with little to no hand interaction. I don't notice many problems with HB.
you must have a wonder version of HB then. seems like a lot of ppl don't have access to that version. you don't might sharing?

Pirox was good, had some pretty awesome features. But I'm sure overtime HB will be adapted to cover features pirox did.
i don't doubt that, if HB will improve over time. but we're talking about the situation that is now.
 
frankly you're so ignorant it makes you sound like a 14y old kid and i can't stand it. how in god's name can someone make such a stupid comment? seriously. you sound like the kid you're trying to bash. so hb runs perfectly for you and we're just to stupid to set it up? ok mr.obviously, how would you fix this as a user? http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...on-mesh-errors-problems-post-them-here-7.html

@no1knowsy:
i agree with you and i mentioned before that hb at it's core is a better bot. but you said it yourself. hb can do a lot more things and is way better due to injections. but it doesn't work without babysitting. as you said if you're just using it for earning some hornor while you babysit it, it's ok. tho the BG bot is way behind pirox. and that's a fact. but if you wanna farm with 50+ bots without babysitting them for a week, the truth is hb can't do this and pirox can. and this is what it's about.

hb can do much more, it has more potential, true. but it doesn't work. the bg bot is too stupid and is not working like intended. farming does not work with mass bots and afk AH. questing doesn't work afk due to bad meshes all over. so how can this be a perfect situation you guys are all talking about? plz explain it to me.

i'm not even talking about the licences. i am willing to pay. but the bot must work.


This guy hit it right on. Thank you for speaking my mind!! Wish you would have mentioned the gathering aspect though ;)
 
To be honest this thread should be closed as its rapidly descending into fighting which is pointless.

no it's not. lol!! it's not fighting. Its constructive feedback. It's expressing what the users of pirox have learned over time and taking it over to HB so that possibly you guys can learn from it. Don't be so stubborn and ignorant to not accept it as such. Don't get defensive over it.
 
you must have a wonder version of HB then. seems like a lot of ppl don't have access to that version. you don't might sharing?


i don't doubt that, if HB will improve over time. but we're talking about the situation that is now.


Agreed.
 
frankly you're so ignorant it makes you sound like a 14y old kid and i can't stand it. how in god's name can someone make such a stupid comment? seriously. you sound like the kid you're trying to bash. so hb runs perfectly for you and we're just to stupid to set it up? ok mr.obviously, how would you fix this as a user? http://www.thebuddyforum.com/honorb...on-mesh-errors-problems-post-them-here-7.html

@no1knowsy:
i agree with you and i mentioned before that hb at it's core is a better bot. but you said it yourself. hb can do a lot more things and is way better due to injections. but it doesn't work without babysitting. as you said if you're just using it for earning some hornor while you babysit it, it's ok. tho the BG bot is way behind pirox. and that's a fact. but if you wanna farm with 50+ bots without babysitting them for a week, the truth is hb can't do this and pirox can. and this is what it's about.

hb can do much more, it has more potential, true. but it doesn't work. the bg bot is too stupid and is not working like intended. farming does not work with mass bots and afk AH. questing doesn't work afk due to bad meshes all over. so how can this be a perfect situation you guys are all talking about? plz explain it to me.

i'm not even talking about the licences. i am willing to pay. but the bot must work.
sir ur a fucking idoit 50+ bots hb can do same as pirox even better relog http://www.thebuddyforum.com/releases/30506-test-arelog-simple-free-relogger-honorbuddy.html
 
you must have a wonder version of HB then. seems like a lot of ppl don't have access to that version. you don't might sharing?


i don't doubt that, if HB will improve over time. but we're talking about the situation that is now.
not really hard u just join under 6months my opion if u dont like hb just get fuck out find a differnet bot
 
not really hard u just join under 6months my opion if u dont like hb just get fuck out find a differnet bot


how about you stop getting all defensive about this and stop swearing and being rude to potential customers..
 
Like to even have this bot function at the level I want it to like I was comfortable with pirox I have to down load like 4 different plug ins. AND I have to read to learn how to use those and set them up? This is a lot more work than what pirox had I am sorry. I just don't know why these plug ins aren't apart of the bot program already :(
 
If you spent half as much time posting about the problems you experience with HB as you could do writing plugins/profiles to make it do what you need you'd be a much happier person.

As for ex pirox users bringing constructive criticism it seems to me only ones who come here and post to bash HB are those who run more than 20+ accounts, people already using HB and the Dev's of HB know the issues already and many from this community have stepped up and for FREE have provided functionality to HB.
The really good ones get added to the botbase of HB over time so its part of the "core" program.

Apoc for example is working on BG Bot 2 which seems to be very promising already and fingers crossed will be released soon for testing.

For setting up many accounts there is many different plugins you can use and many many HB users on here have setups running 15-50 accounts at once using HB, but key difference here is that they can be bothered to setup HB to work rather than make useless posts.

I think it is simple there is much work being done on HB and posting in this thread will not speed up what is being done hence posting is pointless in this thread, if you love pirox so much then keep using it or find something else but making bash posts is only going to cause issues for you in future when you want help from more loyal experienced users and they remember your posting.
 
If you spent half as much time posting about the problems you experience with HB as you could do writing plugins/profiles to make it do what you need you'd be a much happier person.

As for ex pirox users bringing constructive criticism it seems to me only ones who come here and post to bash HB are those who run more than 20+ accounts, people already using HB and the Dev's of HB know the issues already and many from this community have stepped up and for FREE have provided functionality to HB.
The really good ones get added to the botbase of HB over time so its part of the "core" program.

Apoc for example is working on BG Bot 2 which seems to be very promising already and fingers crossed will be released soon for testing.

For setting up many accounts there is many different plugins you can use and many many HB users on here have setups running 15-50 accounts at once using HB, but key difference here is that they can be bothered to setup HB to work rather than make useless posts.

I think it is simple there is much work being done on HB and posting in this thread will not speed up what is being done hence posting is pointless in this thread, if you love pirox so much then keep using it or find something else but making bash posts is only going to cause issues for you in future when you want help from more loyal experienced users and they remember your posting.

Or you could just not get defensive about people wanting to express how they feel about the process as a new comer. You cant expect people to just not share their opinion because it may be something you dont feel. You cant control someone elses expressions. and stop saying im Bashing it. Stop getting all insecure. I am expressing how I feel about the bot. Your right it may not speed up the process. But its sure something you guys should know about and actually accept it as constructive criticism. Because since using a different bot previously has opened my eyes to certain functions that work and some that dont. Because I wanna share some of that I am bashing your program? Get real. And I think its awesome you have a lot of people working on plug ins for free. Thats awesome. Shows a great community. But that wasn't my focus in my postings. but w/e. No use in posting anymore if you guys just get defensive right away and think people are bashing the bot lol!
 
Well its like you guys think you are sharing some great insight we don't know about, we've used this bot for months we know already so for someone else to keep posting about it just annoys the rest of us.
Besides this thread wasn't to discuss the deficiency of HB but to welcome new users, for constructive criticism use the correct threads/forum sections.
 
Well its like you guys think you are sharing some great insight we don't know about, we've used this bot for months we know already so for someone else to keep posting about it just annoys the rest of us.
Besides this thread wasn't to discuss the deficiency of HB but to welcome new users, for constructive criticism use the correct threads/forum sections.

To me both topics fall under the same category for me since I will be a new user so like I said dont get defensive. but wait... you said your aware of the issues? I thought you were completely denying that they exist and that its superior over pirox? A little contradicting. ..
 
1) No more use of the word bashing. I never want to see it again in my life :p
2) Teveel just let it go, please.
3) Now I explain a little more:

All of the plugins on the forum, minus a select few, have been provided by Third-Party developers. In this way they can't entirely support Adding them into Honorbuddy fully. This would mean that the 'Real buddy devs' would have to update/maintain them. They just don't have the time for it.

Pirox had a straight forward loading setup.
You would have actually had the plugins 'built-into' those profiles you loaded.
The ability to AH, switch toons, etc.
You just didn't see the plugins as an extra step because it was contained in that one file.
Admit it, when you had to change a setting in the file, you had to right-click and edit it correct?
Well most plugins would allow for this sort of thing (editing their settings files), but having plugins as separated C# files allows for a User Interface to make it easier to view/understand what you are changing, and what you can change it to.
Also, Multi-Threading is the shit.

@ Zameek - Please stop talking. Arelog is nice and all, but Pirox had their own relogger too. It was provided by the Pirox dev team, and I do believe worked better than our Arelog does.
Not saying Arelog sucks, but it just doesn't seem to do what I think it should. Crashes make it fail, if you don't uncheck 'remember username' it fails, etc...

The issue with meshes isn't actually an issue with the mesh. It's the issue of Honorbuddy not taking into account the HitBox size/shape of your character while navigating. So it cuts corners too close, or tries to go under something it can't. I'd say about 95% of the time it unstucks itself from this, but it sucks that it happens in the first place.
Think of it like throwing a golfball through a hole, then without taking into account the size of the object to throw, it tries to put a baseball through it. It just doesn't work the first time, until HB sees that it is stuck, and proceeds to move the ball until it finds a hole it can fit through.


As far as constant updates, TheBuddyTeam is working on 3 or more bots at the moment. Pirox only had the one bot, for WoW. This will obviously cause many delays in updating/bug fixing.

I'm providing information.
I'm not fighting with you.
I did not once say that either of the bots was/is superior.



And with that out of the way,

A Warm, Furry Welcome to all prior Pirox Users.
Anyone who just joined, or has basic questions about HB/Sessions/Etc please read the following blog by Kickazz006:
* http://www.thebuddyforum.com/blogs/kickazz006/961-useful-blog-new-users.html *
 
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