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Was wondering if people who just used the CR for RAIDING got banned during the last 6 month banwave?
 
Well, if any of this is true and my meager ~300k are gone. I am done with WoW. If I can't token back into it I wont get back into it at all. Which is a shame, been looking forward to seeing how things look in game now after 6 months. The ban was punishment enough. Never used the bot for gold, probably never will. They're probably just trying to save the in game economy by any means possible, which will obviously fail.

And again another one. You just dont get it.

Ever used a cr, went to a raid, you killed a boss?
BOOM, gold gained trough botting.

For those saying i wont come back to wow now they cleaned out?
Trust me, if you didnt the day after u got banned allr, dont come back
now, its not worth it. If you could stay away for 6 months, stay
away till legion and then try it.

The punishment now was just 6 month ban and take all gold, prolly cause most
just started over the min they got banned, nothing to do about it, most that talked
to gm said no one will do a thing since the decision was made a lvl above them.
 
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If Blizz monitored us from day X to day Y, then all gold earned after day X should be removed, not all gold I earned over the 10 years before day X..
 
I had about 6 mil gold, some of it was in items/tcg mounts and about 300k in guild bank. All my alts are showing 0g, but idc I'm happy to get my account back. I can easily make the gold back.

It's obvious they removed our gold just to get us to buy gold from them so they could make money from us.
 
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you all know why they did this right? to pay them real money to sub again and not use tokens

then that is failing, unless you didnt make a new one i wonder why anyone
would go back to the old one. In 6 months i got more gold then ever and more
at lvl 100 and geared then i ever had before.

I will never pay blizz again, if i have to, im quiting.
 
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And again another one. You just dont get it.

Ever used a cr, went to a raid, you killed a boss?
BOOM, gold gained trough botting.

For those saying i wont come back to wow now they cleaned out?
Trust me, if you didnt the day after u got banned allr, dont come back
now, its not worth it. If you could stay away for 6 months, stay
away till legion and then try it.

The punishment now was just 6 month ban and take all gold, prolly cause most
just started over the min they got banned, nothing to do about it, most that talked
to gm said no one will do a thing since the decision was made a lvl above them.

You're such a leprechaun. My personal opinion is that the 6 month ban was enough punishment, Blizzard punishing us even more by removing all our gold is the last drop for me (because my personal opinion is that I was punished enough). Is that really so difficult to understand? No need to write a wall of text trying to explain something that is so crudely obvious to anyone because they write that they feel the same way or are of the same opinion.
 
I'm honestly happy to be getting my main account back. They can take all the gold they want that was on my toons.
 
Be grateful they are even giving you access to the account back.

I honestly cannot understand this kind of mentality. If they return your account with all chars level 1, no gold, no gear, no nothing but a toon with a name, will you still be saying "At least be happy to get your account back?" Or "take it like a man"?

I do agree that they take everything that was gained through the botting activities.

But are they doing that? No. It's just an arbitrary measure.

They had 6 month to analize the accounts, find out exactly when X person botted, and what that person achieved with the botting activities.
If that was being taken away, i couldn't agree more. It would kinda stupid to ban us and leave us with all our "profits" after all, right?
If they were treating you like a valuable costumer, that's what they would do (find out what you did with the bot and remove it all). If they don't think you're a valuable costumer, might as well made the ban permanent. At least it wouldn't feel like they shitting on your face, on your account, and then giving it back to you saying: here scumbag...it's a little smelly, but be happy you got it back.
Webhond reported that they used to remove gear/titles/mounts/mog items when they find out the person was botting.
Why not do that now? Why don't take the pvp titles/gear/rank from ppl who botted pvp? Remove the mounts from those who farmed them? Delevel characters who leveled through botting? Why go for the gold, generally speaking?

(some random story to aleviate the mood)

- hmm..those bastards Honorbuddy users are getting their accounts back this month. Damm, i'm still too sore that my boss forbid me from perma banning them because we have such a massive drop in subs lately.
**ponders for a while**
- Hmm..Oh, i know! I will take away all their gold! Mwhahahaha...
**random secretary::
- err...but Sir, not even all the users farmed gold..some used it for--
- Shut up Mary. Tell the Devs to remove all their gold. I wanna ruin them all.
- But Sir, we need the big boss approval for that!
- Ok, pass me to him!
**dials phone**
- Yea, boss? I wanted to implement a little modification to our initial plan. We take away all the gold from those bloody botters so they buy wow tokens and sell in the AH to make initial gold again. What ya think? It will be thousand of tokens!!!
**hangs phone**
- Call the Devs Mary! Let the sacking begin!

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A little side note. It doesn't really matter if they took 10k gold, or 100k or 1M. It's not the amount that is up to debate. It's the tiny little detail that, for some people, that gold was made through legal method. And they simply shat on that, didn't felt like losing time on your case to remove what you actually gained through botting, and just took an arbitrary measure. Coincidence or not, it's the one that will more benefit them, finantially speaking.
 
I always put everything in the gbank, everything is still there and I constantly access it with one of my other accounts. Everything still appears to be ok on my banned account toons, as of this morning.
 
I just looked on my armory and I also have all my gold removed. I never used to bot to farm gold eversince 2014 when I was perm banned for ore/herb farming. Eversince may 2014 I only botted causally, leveling toons and doing some CR in LFR.

I'm gonna make a ticket and ask about it.
 
I honestly cannot understand this kind of mentality. If they return your account with all chars level 1, no gold, no gear, no nothing but a toon with a name, will you still be saying "At least be happy to get your account back?" Or "take it like a man"?

I do agree that they take everything that was gained through the botting activities.

But are they doing that? No. It's just an arbitrary measure.

They had 6 month to analize the accounts, find out exactly when X person botted, and what that person achieved with the botting activities.
If that was being taken away, i couldn't agree more. It would kinda stupid to ban us and leave us with all our "profits" after all, right?
If they were treating you like a valuable costumer, that's what they would do (find out what you did with the bot and remove it all). If they don't think you're a valuable costumer, might as well made the ban permanent. At least it wouldn't feel like they shitting on your face, on your account, and then giving it back to you saying: here scumbag...it's a little smelly, but be happy you got it back.
Webhond reported that they used to remove gear/titles/mounts/mog items when they find out the person was botting.
Why not do that now? Why don't take the pvp titles/gear/rank from ppl who botted pvp? Remove the mounts from those who farmed them? Delevel characters who leveled through botting? Why go for the gold, generally speaking?

(some random story to aleviate the mood)

- hmm..those bastards Honorbuddy users are getting their accounts back this month. Damm, i'm still too sore that my boss forbid me from perma banning them because we have such a massive drop in subs lately.
**ponders for a while**
- Hmm..Oh, i know! I will take away all their gold! Mwhahahaha...
**random secretary::
- err...but Sir, not even all the users farmed gold..some used it for--
- Shut up Mary. Tell the Devs to remove all their gold. I wanna ruin them all.
- But Sir, we need the big boss approval for that!
- Ok, pass me to him!
**dials phone**
- Yea, boss? I wanted to implement a little modification to our initial plan. We take away all the gold from those bloody botters so they buy wow tokens and sell in the AH to make initial gold again. What ya think? It will be thousand of tokens!!!
**hangs phone**
- Call the Devs Mary! Let the sacking begin!

--------

A little side note. It doesn't really matter if they took 10k gold, or 100k or 1M. It's not the amount that is up to debate. It's the tiny little detail that, for some people, that gold was made through legal method. And they simply shat on that, didn't felt like losing time on your case to remove what you actually gained through botting, and just took an arbitrary measure. Coincidence or not, it's the one that will more benefit them, finantially speaking.

Stop QQing. They are not going to go through thousands of accounts to find out what was botted and what wasn't. Hell they probably don't even have a legit way of catching us (some speculate it was a brief maleware injection, who knows). The fact is, we botted, we got caught. Suck it up and deal with it. Oh no some gold is missing. You own a fucking bot, use it and make more then. You knew the risk when you bought the bot, be grateful they just took some fake ass currency away from you. The fact is majority of botting is for gold so they decided to take the gold. You think you're entitled to something when in fact you aren't at all. You broke the rules, you lost end of it.
 
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Okay, confirmed. I had a little chat with a GM in the live chat just now and he confirmed that all of our gold is wiped from out accounts, not just hold but honor/valor whatever currency there was is now completely wiped out. I can see if I can post the chat here cause I made a back up and send it to my email.

General Info
Chat start time Nov 11, 5:35:19 PM GMT
Chat end time Nov 11, 5:42:09 PM GMT
Duration (actual conversation time) 00:06:49
Representative XXX

Blizzard Support - Chat Transcript

Info: Welcome to live chat with Blizzard Support! A representative will be with you shortly.
Current average wait time is approximately 1 minutes and 40 seconds.Please wait for a site operator to respond.

Info: You have been connected with XXX.
Info: ** Please only submit credit card information in a provided Secure Form. **

XXX: Hello there, I hope you are well today?
you: I'm alright, thanks :)
XXX: Good good :)
XXX: Let me have a look at your issue.
you: Alright,
XXX: I am afraid that this is correct. All gold, honor and conquest points have been removed from these accounts. This was mentioned it would happen in the original mails sent when the accounts were closed.
XXX: Items on the characters shouldn't be affected.
you: Alright. Well, thanks for your awnser :)
XXX: No probs.
you: Alright that's all.
you: Thank you very much.
XXX: Take care and have fun!
you: Thanks! Bye!
 
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Stop QQing. They are not going to go through thousands of accounts to find out what was botted and what wasn't. Hell they probably don't even have a legit way of catching us (some speculate it was a brief maleware injection, who knows). The fact is, we botted, we got caught. Suck it up and deal with it. Oh no some gold is missing. You own a fucking bot, use it and make more then. You knew the risk when you bought the bot, be grateful they just took some fake ass currency away from you. The fact is majority of botting is for gold so they decided to take the gold. You think you're entitled to something when in fact you aren't at all. You broke the rules, you lost end of it.

QQ = waaaahhhh...they took away mi goldz...damm Blizz... i hope someone Alah Akbar's you to hell! Waaahhhaaaaa ...i hope your babies have 6 toes....baaaaaahhhh...

Making a point, or stating an argument = read previous post.

If all your answers are based on: Suck up and deal with it...then you don't have the capacity of counter-argumenting (sp?) at all.
 
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