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[Official] Banwave 1 February 2017 Discussion

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What I will do when I get home from work is make a thread where I update you guys with my progress. I will be happy to prove myself any reasonable way. I think that Blizzard will certainly beat Bossland if we continue to let them divide and conqueor us.

Personally I think you need direct that to Bossland. He allowed the division by not being honest and upfront with us and see what the community thought were good options for funding. We are taking it from both sides and all we asked for was a little Vaseline damn it. It's one thing to take away our lifetime but then leaving the bot vulnerable to everything Blizz puts out is too much.
 
Personally my belief is this is residual from Feb 1st and before banwaves. There is some talk of Hardware ID bans and Mac Address bans and even some IP but I would lean more to the two latter.

What I can say is we are NOT in front anymore in terms of being ahead of Blizz. They can pick us off now at random which means the community will shrink over the coming months to the point where Boss can not sustain the legal cost. Blizz stepped up their game because they too are suffering legal fees they know they will never be able to recover from Boss so their goal now is to tighten the screws on HB by litigation one side and banning the next figuring and correctly that Boss will have to do things to generate funds and that will alienate some members and what that don't get the banwaves will run away. Like I said within a year this bot is dead. The fact that in today's HB there is no "true" Tripwire. We use to catch shit but now we are susceptible to even a janitor at Blizz farting in the hall on the opposite side of the compound. Blizz has either gotten smarter or HB devs have not been doing a good job or some combination of the two.

I think it's time we talk about what else is out there and which bot devs are truly skilled at avoiding Warden. Personally I miss Glider really bad. But I understand this HB bot did a lot more and with more functionality comes more vulnerabilities. Like as a botter right now sucks.

Bans every 6 months was livable. Every two months not so much.

I can get behind you on that. The problem is that Bossland is fighting the fight alone and all other dev's are insulated because he is tanking. We all know what happens to the party when the tank goes down. We will never win this fight as long as Blizz is on the offense. Legislation needs to be pushed and lobbied in the US to stop Blizzard from having so much power over their customers or the milking will simply get worse. Once they have legal precedents in place the process will be faster and new devs will be afraid. It looks grim. Its not the end but it could be the beginning of the end. I personally will not give up or stop giving my support.
 
I can get behind you on that. The problem is that Bossland is fighting the fight alone and all other dev's are insulated because he is tanking. We all know what happens to the party when the tank goes down. We will never win this fight as long as Blizz is on the offense. Legislation needs to be pushed and lobbied in the US to stop Blizzard from having so much power over their customers or the milking will simply get worse. Once they have legal precedents in place the process will be faster and new devs will be afraid. It looks grim. Its not the end but it could be the beginning of the end. I personally will not give up or stop giving my support.

That's not a legislation thing Anon. And this is not even being fought in the US as yet although it's coming soon. I think they started something last year if my memory serves me.

I believe Boss made the mistake of overplaying his hand with us. He should have gotten us on his side instead of isolating us.

We are dead. HB is anyhow. The only thing we can do right now is to find a replacement bot. Much the way we left Glider and came to HB we need migrate to the next bot. I think Boss made this decision like a business and we must do the same now.
 
That's not a legislation thing Anon. And this is not even being fought in the US as yet although it's coming soon. I think they started something last year if my memory serves me.

I believe Boss made the mistake of overplaying his hand with us. He should have gotten us on his side instead of isolating us.

We are dead. HB is anyhow. The only thing we can do right now is to find a replacement bot. Much the way we left Glider and came to HB we need migrate to the next bot. I think Boss made this decision like a business and we must do the same now.

I agree. We would've stood better united with better communication from Bossland. The question becomes who can we stand behind? Who can give us 6 months between banwaves and a trip wire that works?
 
I agree. We would've stood better united with better communication from Bossland. The question becomes who can we stand behind? Who can give us 6 months between banwaves and a trip wire that works?

That's truly the question. Which dev out there has true skills to create a genuine tripwire product that catches things and who can analyze code and see how they will detect us. I am not interested in a quick uptime after after an update rather than a safe fix that prevents the next banwave. I would prefer wait 3 days to a week rather than have to bot another toon up and pay for legion again. It make mathematical sense to hold off a few days and get the update right rather than release early and get banned your community.
 
That's truly the question. Which dev out there has true skills to create a genuine tripwire product that catches things and who can analyze code and see how they will detect us. I am not interested in a quick uptime after after an update rather than a safe fix that prevents the next banwave. I would prefer wait 3 days to a week rather than have to bot another toon up and pay for legion again. It make mathematical sense to hold off a few days and get the update right rather than release early and get banned your community.

Yes, I think this is what happened in November. I would even pay more/yearly with no lifetime If I could have the confidence to open 10 new accounts a week after a banwave without the anxiety of waiting for the hammer and hoping it doesnt happen. I hope someone steps up to the plate. I would certainly stand behind them. I only opened two accounts because I couldnt afford to lose a large investment after losing all my accounts...again. I had to know for myself if they truly found the detection method even if it cost me.
 
Wasn't banned in the banwave the 1st of february.
I start up my DK to level a bit, 30 minutes later I get an 18 month suspension.
It was fun but nope I'm not trying again.
 
Honorbuddy is not dead. These guys are trolls. I started 2 new accounts the day that the new release dropped and no insta ban so there is no "second" ban wave. I'm not a fanboy, but I've been using this product for a while. I had accounts that I only used for WQ that didn't get banned, but all my suicide bots that were running when the ban wave happened did. Don't let these fools discourage you from using this product. I'm not saying another ban wave won't happen to be clear, all I'm saying is that it is as safe as ever right now and it was as safe as ever 2 weeks before the ban wave minimum.

Anon stop spreading crap on this forum you are dead wrong and for everyone that has been here for alot longer then you know it so please go back to playing tetris you have no clue whats going on here.
 
Honorbuddy is not dead. These guys are trolls. I started 2 new accounts the day that the new release dropped and no insta ban so there is no "second" ban wave. I'm not a fanboy, but I've been using this product for a while. I had accounts that I only used for WQ that didn't get banned, but all my suicide bots that were running when the ban wave happened did. Don't let these fools discourage you from using this product. I'm not saying another ban wave won't happen to be clear, all I'm saying is that it is as safe as ever right now and it was as safe as ever 2 weeks before the ban wave minimum.

Anon stop spreading crap on this forum you are dead wrong and for everyone that has been here for alot longer then you know it so please go back to playing tetris you have no clue whats going on here.

believe what you will and learn to quote ;).
 
Sorry for the hostal post but im tired of people supporting bossland when he clearly gave up on us at the end of wod when the hits first started. If this community would stick to one another and stop buying these products then blizz would see its not profitable to keep baning us and bossland would give in to this crap product and somone would build somthing better ive been saying this for almost a year now but no one wants to listen this bot is for the gold farmers now who can dump 50 bots out there and make a shit ton then start over for all the rest of us this bot is dead.
 
Sorry for the hostal post but im tired of people supporting bossland when he clearly gave up on us at the end of wod when the hits first started. If this community would stick to one another and stop buying these products then blizz would see its not profitable to keep baning us and bossland would give in to this crap product and somone would build somthing better ive been saying this for almost a year now but no one wants to listen this bot is for the gold farmers now who can dump 50 bots out there and make a shit ton then start over for all the rest of us this bot is dead.

Bro if you read all my posts youd understand. I dont blindly support, but its hb or quit botting. Find me a better one ill support them. just checked both my accts still live. Im just sharing my current exp becuase i know im one of the few botting atm.
 
id say quit if i was given the choice. this isnt helping anyone who has been hit on a 3 month pace for the last year. Im done with hb they dont offer anything good for us casual non gold farming botters. a good portion of this botting community botted because we enjoy the game just at our pace not having to do the daily grind every day 20-30 hours a week. we love botting as a hobby and playing wow at certain points like raiding mythics and crap. but hb has screwed us all and is not offering a good solution to fixing the problems just sucking us dry.
 
id say quit if i was given the choice. this isnt helping anyone who has been hit on a 3 month pace for the last year. Im done with hb they dont offer anything good for us casual non gold farming botters. a good portion of this botting community botted because we enjoy the game just at our pace not having to do the daily grind every day 20-30 hours a week. we love botting as a hobby and playing wow at certain points like raiding mythics and crap. but hb has screwed us all and is not offering a good solution to fixing the problems just sucking us dry.

I dont bot on my main. I sell enough gold to pay for a farming account and keep my gold on other accounts. I have enough stocked to pay for my gametime on my main for years to come. In this respect honorbuddy has saved me money and I have no complaints. I agree if you want to bot casually on your main this is not the software for you.
 
no id never bot on main bot years ago you could if you were careful. i miss those good old daYS when you could go a year without a bann and be ok i started in cata with hb and its been awsome but the good old days are over.
 
no id never bot on main bot years ago you could if you were careful. i miss those good old daYS when you could go a year without a bann and be ok i started in cata with hb and its been awsome but the good old days are over.

We can agree on this. I wish i could bot on my main like the old days and avoid bans.
 
Yep, I dropped cash on another account and got banned in a little over 24 hours with the new release. Not going to waste more money.
 
Sorry for the hostal post but im tired of people supporting bossland when he clearly gave up on us at the end of wod when the hits first started. If this community would stick to one another and stop buying these products then blizz would see its not profitable to keep baning us and bossland would give in to this crap product and somone would build somthing better ive been saying this for almost a year now but no one wants to listen this bot is for the gold farmers now who can dump 50 bots out there and make a shit ton then start over for all the rest of us this bot is dead.

When we say the bot s dead it means that its inevitable. NO there is no instant banwave but your two accounts are dead already. Within a month there will be another banwave. Blizz has HB by the balls now. Bans are happening at will by Bliz.
 
im SOOOO glad i didnt jump on it right away after the message :We have just found the new detection vector that was placed in WoW client.

im not so sure about that :p ppl are getting banned like crazy now
 
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