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[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

Hi and thanks for sharing this CR with us, Now ive been using this for quite some time but latly now i feel that im underperforming with this CR, Im 579ilvl and got 4set, Ive been fiddling around with all 3 specs. Have anyone had same issues?
 
Hey there! I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but in the Kromog encounter in BRF the rotation seem to have a hard time AOE-ing the hands that show up and grasp people.
At least for me as Destro I need to do the rotation myself, since HB just stops or casts randomly a few spells.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Can you post a log file please?

Ref:
How To Attach a Log

Hi and thanks for sharing this CR with us, Now ive been using this for quite some time but latly now i feel that im underperforming with this CR, Im 579ilvl and got 4set, Ive been fiddling around with all 3 specs. Have anyone had same issues?

The routine definitely isn't under performing - it's down to your settings. There's guides linked in the first post of this thread for optimal usage.
 
Hey there! I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but in the Kromog encounter in BRF the rotation seem to have a hard time AOE-ing the hands that show up and grasp people.
At least for me as Destro I need to do the rotation myself, since HB just stops or casts randomly a few spells.View attachment 4584 2015-03-10 20.35.txt
 
Hey there! I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but in the Kromog encounter in BRF the rotation seem to have a hard time AOE-ing the hands that show up and grasp people.
At least for me as Destro I need to do the rotation myself, since HB just stops or casts randomly a few spells.View attachment 171430

Thanks for the log file - It seems to be casting/dotting successfully on the Grasping Earth's - can you elaborate a little more on what you're seeing?

PS: the routine is spam trying to use this trinket.... [Using Trinket 1: Blackiron Micro Crucible] - you should disable that in your settings - causes lag :)

Cheers
 
Thanks for the log file - It seems to be casting/dotting successfully on the Grasping Earth's - can you elaborate a little more on what you're seeing?

PS: the routine is spam trying to use this trinket.... [Using Trinket 1: Blackiron Micro Crucible] - you should disable that in your settings - causes lag :)

Cheers



thanks dude and good married! for you and wife
 
Hi mates. I don´t know if somebody else expirienced it but the cr isn´t doing a good execute job. DS is not used for the fury dumps. The cr enters meta with about 250 fury what is in my opinion not enough to push some ss out especially with ds up.

In my opinion it should do it on two different ways. If ds is on cooldown it should switch into meta with about 300 fury to nuke some ss out. If ds is going to come off cd it should than build up abot 500-600 fury and nuke some more ss with ds.

Millz can you take a look into it and improve the execute a little bit before your weedding leave ?
 
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Sure thing.

As you said earlier, the log indicates that it's casting spells on "Grasping Earth", however it's not doing it nearly as good as it needs to be.
In Heroic they need to be downed asap, and have first priority over Kromog.
Just Immolate and ROF won't be enough.

Here is my log:

View attachment 171436

It's not just using Immolate and RoF though...

Code:
Line 1759: [20:35:03.544 N] [Demonic] [HP: 83] [Mana: 87] [Embers: 1.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 0.3% - 2.5k - 35.7yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:1]
	Line 1763: [20:35:04.645 N] [Demonic] [HP: 75] [Mana: 96] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 16.6% - 130.7k - 10.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:24.1]
	Line 1767: [20:35:05.664 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 11.3% - 88.7k - 12.1yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:3.8]
	Line 1770: [20:35:05.793 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 37.7% - 296.3k - 46.8yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:11.6]
	Line 1773: [20:35:07.343 N] [Demonic] [HP: 77] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 12.8% - 100.6k - 47.3yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:6.8]
	Line 1925: [20:36:36.297 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 98] [Embers: 1.8] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 100.0% - 785.4k - 35.5yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]
	Line 1928: [20:36:37.046 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 86] [Embers: 2.1] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Grasping Earth @ 98.9% - 777.1k - 3.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]

There's 16x CB's, 52x SB, and 10x Havoc's cast attempts on them in that log file.

Hi mates. I don´t know if somebody else expirienced it but the cr isn´t doing a good execute job. DS is not used for the fury dumps. The cr enters meta with about 250 fury what is in my opinion not enough to push some ss out especially with ds up.

In my opinion it should do it on two different ways. If ds is on cooldown it should switch into meta with about 300 fury to nuke some ss out. If ds is going to come off cd it should than build up abot 500-600 fury and nuke some more ss with ds.

Millz can you take a look into it and improve the execute a little bit before your weedding leave ?

Hmm I'll speak with Nilrem about it. It's currently just trying to use soulfire as much as possible in meta form once the boss is below 20% - which means it jumps into meta form for it. Maybe need to have a higher fury value on it so it's not jumping in for 1x Soulfire.
 
It's not just using Immolate and RoF though...

Code:
Line 1759: [20:35:03.544 N] [Demonic] [HP: 83] [Mana: 87] [Embers: 1.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 0.3% - 2.5k - 35.7yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:1]
	Line 1763: [20:35:04.645 N] [Demonic] [HP: 75] [Mana: 96] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 16.6% - 130.7k - 10.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:24.1]
	Line 1767: [20:35:05.664 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 11.3% - 88.7k - 12.1yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:3.8]
	Line 1770: [20:35:05.793 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 37.7% - 296.3k - 46.8yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:11.6]
	Line 1773: [20:35:07.343 N] [Demonic] [HP: 77] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 12.8% - 100.6k - 47.3yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:6.8]
	Line 1925: [20:36:36.297 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 98] [Embers: 1.8] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 100.0% - 785.4k - 35.5yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]
	Line 1928: [20:36:37.046 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 86] [Embers: 2.1] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Grasping Earth @ 98.9% - 777.1k - 3.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]

There's 16x CB's, 52x SB, and 10x Havoc's cast attempts on them in that log file.

I have also expirienced it that it don´t feels like that the cr does anything :-) How about the range of the hands ? Does cata and cw is used properly because in my opinion the distance between them is a little bit far.


Hmm I'll speak with Nilrem about it. It's currently just trying to use soulfire as much as possible in meta form once the boss is below 20% - which means it jumps into meta form for it. Maybe need to have a higher fury value on it so it's not jumping in for 1x Soulfire.

Why 20% ? Execute starts for demo with 25%. Actually it really jumps in and out for only 1-2 ss. Its feels really strange. And please of course check the usage of DS in the execute phase. I always need to handle it manually because the cr won´t do this.


But on the other hand the cr is really good tuned for 6.1. When you fix the execute thing than it will work like a charm. Of course cata and burst aoe is something different. As nilrem said, the best way is to handle cata with the mouseover hotkey.
 
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It's not just using Immolate and RoF though...

Code:
Line 1759: [20:35:03.544 N] [Demonic] [HP: 83] [Mana: 87] [Embers: 1.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 0.3% - 2.5k - 35.7yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:1]
	Line 1763: [20:35:04.645 N] [Demonic] [HP: 75] [Mana: 96] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 16.6% - 130.7k - 10.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:24.1]
	Line 1767: [20:35:05.664 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 11.3% - 88.7k - 12.1yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:3.8]
	Line 1770: [20:35:05.793 N] [Demonic] [HP: 70] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 37.7% - 296.3k - 46.8yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:11.6]
	Line 1773: [20:35:07.343 N] [Demonic] [HP: 77] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 3.7] [Casting: Shadowburn] [On: Grasping Earth @ 12.8% - 100.6k - 47.3yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:6.8]
	Line 1925: [20:36:36.297 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 98] [Embers: 1.8] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Grasping Earth @ 100.0% - 785.4k - 35.5yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]
	Line 1928: [20:36:37.046 N] [Demonic] [HP: 94] [Mana: 86] [Embers: 2.1] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Grasping Earth @ 98.9% - 777.1k - 3.0yds] [Id:77893] [TTD:999]

There's 16x CB's, 52x SB, and 10x Havoc's cast attempts on them in that log file.

Well, it sure is trying to do something and yes it does randomly cast spells on hands as I said.
It also switches forth and back with the AOE settings. But most of the time it seems it's "trying" to cast something but is unable to.

Maybe as the previous poster said, it's has something to do with range? I don't know.
But I've done Kromog several times, and the CR always behaves strange/bad on the Grasping Hands.
I'll try to do a recording of the encounter next time so you can see what I'm talking about.

Cheers,
v0ice
 
I have also expirienced it that it don´t feels like that the cr does anything :-) How about the range of the hands ? Does cata and cw is used properly because in my opinion the distance between them is a little bit far.

Why 20% ? Execute starts for demo with 25%. Actually it really jumps in and out for only 1-2 ss. Its feels really strange. And please of course check the usage of DS in the execute phase. I always need to handle it manually because the cr won´t do this.


But on the other hand the cr is really good tuned for 6.1. When you fix the execute thing than it will work like a charm. Of course cata and burst aoe is something different. As nilrem said, the best way is to handle cata with the mouseover hotkey.

It does start at 25% but there's conditions on that from 25 to 20% (just to ensure we have procs etc).

I see what you mean with DS - I'll get that sorted. I'm going to add some conditions to SF so it doesn't just jump in and out as quick.

Well, it sure is trying to do something and yes it does randomly cast spells on hands as I said.
It also switches forth and back with the AOE settings. But most of the time it seems it's "trying" to cast something but is unable to.

Maybe as the previous poster said, it's has something to do with range? I don't know.
But I've done Kromog several times, and the CR always behaves strange/bad on the Grasping Hands.
I'll try to do a recording of the encounter next time so you can see what I'm talking about.

Cheers,
v0ice

You may have better success toggling AoE off to attack the grasping earth's so you can focus them down 1 at a time rather than spreading DPS around via multi dotting or shadowburning other hands. A video of what's happening could help though. Make sure there's no names in there - or send it via PM :)
 
Hi mates. I don´t know if somebody else expirienced it but the cr isn´t doing a good execute job. DS is not used for the fury dumps. The cr enters meta with about 250 fury what is in my opinion not enough to push some ss out especially with ds up.

In my opinion it should do it on two different ways. If ds is on cooldown it should switch into meta with about 300 fury to nuke some ss out. If ds is going to come off cd it should than build up abot 500-600 fury and nuke some more ss with ds.

Millz can you take a look into it and improve the execute a little bit before your weedding leave ?

Yeah we have pinpointed the culprit behind this outrageous behaviour. Will be fixed :D
 
Been reading a lot of the current pages in this forum and it seems that there is a lot of PvE discussion going on, how does this CR fare with PvP? Is this the -go to- CR or would say... GS be better for higher rated PvP?
 
On Kromog (Myhtic) I pause the bot and do hands manually, this is for 2 reasons. This is both as Demo and Destro.

1) We have too much AoE DPS and they get killed to quickly.

2) I'm not sure what it is exactly but the bot does not handle the hands well at all.

For Demo I take GimSyn/AD/Cata and for Destro I take GrimSac/MF/Charred Remains.
 
I can't seem to get the keybinds/hotkeys for CC working in PvP. The rest of the bot works flawlessly and I'm topping damage by far in 1600-1700 RBGs on a lock with 0 conquest pieces, so it's a sick routine...

Any ideas on what to do to get the fear/Shadowfury mouseover working correctly? Everything else seems to be working perfectly.
 
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