[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

[Sekushi]

Is it just me or is the routine no longer switching to cast Shadowburn when the target gets below 20% instead of Chaos Bolt? Last butcher fight it didnt cast Shadowburn not even once.

CB is more DPS now

 

[Powershot]

Is it just me or is the routine no longer switching to cast Shadowburn when the target gets below 20% instead of Chaos Bolt? Last butcher fight it didnt cast Shadowburn not even once.

I have discussed it some posts earlier with millz because it is really so that I also expirienced it that the cancel cast don't ignores the cb rotation. All top rated wls in warcraftlogs use shadowburn on cd and I hope millz will fix this in the next update

 

[fightcancer]

Does Demonic support using the Horde Battle Standard please?

 

[decks]

Hey Millz, I was wondering why the CR isn't corrupting all targets? I'm pretty new to lock, and even though the extra soul shard only procs on most recent corruption, it still seems like huge chunk of missing damage when everything is not corrupted. I've used it mostly in BG's for now, have yet to test in arena.

I have noticed this aswell on aoe packs(4 or more mobs, full aoe is set to 10). its pretty silly not to use corruption since it triggers nightfall. I notice the routine spamming drain soul instead of putting up corruption. If you switch target manually it tends to put up corruption.

Since my pc is acting up(need fresh windows) I thought it was caused by that. since more folks seem to be affected, there might be a bug around?

 

[nilrem2004]

I have noticed this aswell on aoe packs(4 or more mobs, full aoe is set to 10). its pretty silly not to use corruption since it triggers nightfall. I notice the routine spamming drain soul instead of putting up corruption. If you switch target manually it tends to put up corruption.

Since my pc is acting up(need fresh windows) I thought it was caused by that. since more folks seem to be affected, there might be a bug around?

only 1 corruption triggers nightfall, so if you cast 2345246423624 corruptions , still only last one casted triggers nightfall, that is why corruption is the least important for multidotting and that is why for multidotting it's always UA and Agony on all mobs first as priority.

 

[nilrem2004]

Having an issue where the CR will not haunt targets just corruption, agony, UA then drain soul. The CR will also multi dot rather than soul swap. Is this normal? I have just purchased the premium.

EDIT: I have also noticed that the CR does not support Optical Blast. Is there something i am missing in the CR in regards to the use of the Observer/Felhunters silence?

[17:15:49.001 N] [Demonic] [HP: 66] [Mana: 99] [Shards: 4] [Casting: Haunt] [On: Iron Arbalester @ 83.3% - 66.2k - 1.7yds] [Id:79584] [TTD:66.8]

multidot > soul swap anytime.

Haunt has conditions for casting, how did you setup your Dark Soul usage?

 

[nilrem2004]

I have discussed it some posts earlier with millz because it is really so that I also expirienced it that the cancel cast don't ignores the cb rotation. All top rated wls in warcraftlogs use shadowburn on cd and I hope millz will fix this in the next update

one mistake though, nobody uses shadowburn on CD, shadowburn is now used only as a killing blow because it's instant and gets you the shard back. You can check that in simcraft also. For bosses it's used on ttd < 10secs since because high burst of other classes in execute phase boss might die quickly so it's risky to have a long casted CB there. For spawning adds around it's used to get embers back.Set it up in destro tab, enable cancel casting put it on like 10% or less.

 

[sosuto]

[17:15:49.001 N] [Demonic] [HP: 66] [Mana: 99] [Shards: 4] [Casting: Haunt] [On: Iron Arbalester @ 83.3% - 66.2k - 1.7yds] [Id:79584] [TTD:66.8]

multidot > soul swap anytime.

Haunt has conditions for casting, how did you setup your Dark Soul usage?

I have been paying more attention and have noticed more haunts. Maybe i have caught it at the right time to see the criteria needed. I still haven't seen a single soul swap. Here is an image of my settings.

If anyone has got experience with the soul swap in PVP, any help would be great as this is the only thing i can not figure out.

 

[decks]

only 1 corruption triggers nightfall, so if you cast 2345246423624 corruptions , still only last one casted triggers nightfall, that is why corruption is the least important for multidotting and that is why for multidotting it's always UA and Agony on all mobs first as priority.

Thank you for the information!

 

[Powershot]

one mistake though, nobody uses shadowburn on CD, shadowburn is now used only as a killing blow because it's instant and gets you the shard back. You can check that in simcraft also. For bosses it's used on ttd < 10secs since because high burst of other classes in execute phase boss might die quickly so it's risky to have a long casted CB there. For spawning adds around it's used to get embers back.Set it up in destro tab, enable cancel casting put it on like 10% or less.

Sorry but I don´t think so. I have attached here a link to the no. 1 ranked wl at Imperator mythic. He uses shadowburn 112 times instead of cb 53 times. A instant is always better than a hard casted nuke. As example I am only doing 35 times shadowburn and nearly 50 times cb (cb is ok). This is the situation at all high ranked logs. I don´t know if you guys look into actual logs but this is the same to every destro lock who has a high ranking. The cr should switch at 20% to havoc/shadowburn. Of course shadowburn is used for ember reg but at so long fights where the execution time is really high/long shadowburn is the winner. Put a checkbox in the shadowburn section, where really cb is ignored at a %-Setting and the cr uses only shadowburn with proccs or so. Would be really nice. This should be the same with RoF. The People can decide if they would like to use RoF/Shadowburn or not. Would be really nice.

Here is the Picture:

 

[LAiDBaQ21]

Anybody use this for Arenas past 2k rating and RBGs? I'd be curious what your setting are because the default PvP settings aren't optimal for either venue.

 

[Mannyste]

Yea affliction can you change to put corruption on all targets?

 

[Stormwiddow]

Got a question that ppl might find silly, but will help me out ALOT!
Say i am raiding HM and on butcher i am using Demonic Servitude to dish out major single target dps, but during trash i would like to dish out some nice AOE damage. The question is as follows: Do i have to start honorbuddy all over again if i change talents without switching to offspecc?

 

[pzyc]

Got a question that ppl might find silly, but will help me out ALOT!
Say i am raiding HM and on butcher i am using Demonic Servitude to dish out major single target dps, but during trash i would like to dish out some nice AOE damage. The question is as follows: Do i have to start honorbuddy all over again if i change talents without switching to offspecc?[/QUOTE

u do not need o restart if u only change a talent. Only need to restart if u change the Specc.

 

[Millz]

Hi Millz, when about routine will free version

Just as soon as I get the time to do it really. Lots of stuff still to fix on the premium version which takes priority.

Hey Millz, I was wondering why the CR isn't corrupting all targets? I'm pretty new to lock, and even though the extra soul shard only procs on most recent corruption, it still seems like huge chunk of missing damage when everything is not corrupted. I've used it mostly in BG's for now, have yet to test in arena.

It will if AoE is enabled - post a log file if having issues please

Just bought this routine. Overall not bad, still trying to figure out how to use it optimally though. I ran it in Highmaul and on Imperator in particular I had a lot of trouble as Demo. It wasn't keeping it's dot's up anywhere close to 100%, and at one point the routine got stuck trying to cast a targetable spell on the ground. I'm not sure but I think it was trying to summon my Abyssal. I could barely keep up with the tanks in damage. The rest of the raid went fine considering my ilvl.
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Hey

There looked like a 4 second gap where it tried to cast Summon Abyssal, but I've checked the code behind it and can't see why it's not worked. Keep an eye on this issue and if it keeps happening let me know. May have just gotten unlucky with a lag spike or something.

What were the uptime %'s ? On Imperator, it looks like the time between Doom cast's is pretty good. Corruption seemed to drop for a little bit because 'use metamorphosis when moving' is enabled, and you were moving a lot. Think the tip there is if you see Corruption getting low and that setting is enabled, stand still for a very short period of time (or cancel metamorphosis manually).

Cheers

Having an issue where the CR will not haunt targets just corruption, agony, UA then drain soul. The CR will also multi dot rather than soul swap. Is this normal? I have just purchased the premium.

EDIT: I have also noticed that the CR does not support Optical Blast. Is there something i am missing in the CR in regards to the use of the Observer/Felhunters silence?

Soul Swap is generally considered a waste of soul shards. Haunt should be casting frequent, but need a log file for that.

Optical Blast (and all pet abilities) are handled via command demon settings on the Pet tab.

Does Demonic support using the Horde Battle Standard please?

Hey - No, no support in for that.

 

[Millz]

I have been paying more attention and have noticed more haunts. Maybe i have caught it at the right time to see the criteria needed. I still haven't seen a single soul swap. Here is an image of my settings. View attachment 165468

If anyone has got experience with the soul swap in PVP, any help would be great as this is the only thing i can not figure out.

Post a log file please.

Ref: How To Attach a Log

Sorry but I don´t think so. I have attached here a link to the no. 1 ranked wl at Imperator mythic. He uses shadowburn 112 times instead of cb 53 times. A instant is always better than a hard casted nuke. As example I am only doing 35 times shadowburn and nearly 50 times cb (cb is ok). This is the situation at all high ranked logs. I don´t know if you guys look into actual logs but this is the same to every destro lock who has a high ranking. The cr should switch at 20% to havoc/shadowburn. Of course shadowburn is used for ember reg but at so long fights where the execution time is really high/long shadowburn is the winner. Put a checkbox in the shadowburn section, where really cb is ignored at a %-Setting and the cr uses only shadowburn with proccs or so. Would be really nice. This should be the same with RoF. The People can decide if they would like to use RoF/Shadowburn or not. Would be really nice.

Here is the Picture:

Ran a few simulation craft profiles, and it is still higher DPS to use CB always instead of SB, when you're actually in a raid it'll be more effective due to moving half way through CB casts etc. I'll add it back in.

Anybody use this for Arenas past 2k rating and RBGs? I'd be curious what your setting are because the default PvP settings aren't optimal for either venue.

There are people using it at high ratings - you'll not be able to just leave it fully auto to cast everything - i.e. you need to intervene and cast some abilities manually - but the hotkeys and manual cast detection are good for this.

Yea affliction can you change to put corruption on all targets?

It'll multi-dot when AoE is enabled

 

[getmunch]

Will fix this, thanks.



Already in, check the affliction tab



It's not in there, but you can add it in for your copy



No, once AoE is disabled it only casts on current target. Try and position yourself further away from the adds up in the arena - once you get out of range of them it'll ignore.

Any eta on demo capping/wasting fury fix?

 

[Millz]

Any eta on demo capping/wasting fury fix?

Had a weekend off the computer so I'm a little behind. Changes are made I just need to test them out. I'm hoping to get updates pushed today, but it'll be tomorrow at the latest.

 

[Mannyste]

It'll multi-dot when AoE is enabled

Nope i have it enabled and it and on hotkey enable.. it does not put corruption and when i manually put corruption my dps go up 6-7k lol. Can you corruption the same logic as unstable affliction and agony? these 2 abilities work with multi mobs but corruption no

 

[bouncingsquares]

Just as soon as I get the time to do it really. Lots of stuff still to fix on the premium version which takes priority.

I realize the premium takes priority because people have already paid for it. However, I'm not going to drop $23 on a routine sight unseen. There really isn't another option for warlock pve right now - singular is complete shit, and as far as I can tell, none of the other free ones work at all. I would gladly buy your routine if I could try it first and find that it's worth it. I'm sure I am not the only one who feels that way. Until then, I guess I'll be playing without the bot. I'm just saying - if you would get the free version working, I'm sure you would have more sales.