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TuanHA Death Knight- The Ultimate Experience

TripMachine said:
Grettings Tuanha, just purchased your full pack after using the Monk routine for a while! Keep it up!

Anyway, I wanted to let you know of an issue I am having with the DK Special Edition. My DK is level 87 so I'm not sure if that is where the issue is or not, but I was hoping to make leveling up quicker. :)

Every few mobs I fight, my game completely freezes for 1 sec at a time. So 1 sec smooth, then the next sec frozen, etc and it repeats, which makes it unplayable. It doesn't do this on every fight, only some (maybe once per minute, still often enough that it's quite annoying). I'm wondering if it's some ability or setting that is throwing a bunch of errors and locking my game up. Any ideas? Here is my log file. Thank you for any help!

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Edit: also, unrelated to my issue, I noticed it is using Strangulate to try and interrupt non-interruptable spells (the Ghoul stun still works nice for it though). is there any way to make sure Strangulate only gets used on things it can interrupt?
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Inspected your log, there's no error.

The "Freeze" issue happen because there's no way to disable Framelock in Questing bot. Once you get to 90 and start raiding, pvping, use Tyrael Bot Base and the freeze issue gone. If you run dungeon buddy, make sure disable framelock in Bot Config.

Strangulate work on uninterrupted spell but in PvE some spell that not strangulatable. Just disable it while leveling.
 
TripMachine said:
Grettings Tuanha, just purchased your full pack after using the Monk routine for a while! Keep it up!

Anyway, I wanted to let you know of an issue I am having with the DK Special Edition. My DK is level 87 so I'm not sure if that is where the issue is or not, but I was hoping to make leveling up quicker. :)

Every few mobs I fight, my game completely freezes for 1 sec at a time. So 1 sec smooth, then the next sec frozen, etc and it repeats, which makes it unplayable. It doesn't do this on every fight, only some (maybe once per minute, still often enough that it's quite annoying). I'm wondering if it's some ability or setting that is throwing a bunch of errors and locking my game up. Any ideas? Here is my log file. Thank you for any help!

View attachment 90249

Edit: also, unrelated to my issue, I noticed it is using Strangulate to try and interrupt non-interruptable spells (the Ghoul stun still works nice for it though). is there any way to make sure Strangulate only gets used on things it can interrupt?
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tuanha said:
Inspected your log, there's no error.

The "Freeze" issue happen because there's no way to disable Framelock in Questing bot. Once you get to 90 and start raiding, pvping, use Tyrael Bot Base and the freeze issue gone. If you run dungeon buddy, make sure disable framelock in Bot Config.

Strangulate work on uninterrupted spell but in PvE some spell that not strangulatable. Just disable it while leveling.
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This is not a routine problem nor is it a framelock problem. It is the processing power of which HB uses to use the routine that has been heavily coded and well coded by Tuanha.
Like i have said on Tuanha's MONK routine when it first came out you need too.

CTRL+ALT+DEL then click Task Manager.

Windows 8 = Right click World Of Warcraft
- Go to Details -
Right Click WoW.exe and
set priority to above normal or higher depending on how good your PC is, never ever run at realistic though This will just drain your computer cpu.

Other Windows Versions : Task Manager - Right click Wow.exe - Set priority Above normal. Again this will stop the cpu and framerate from start - stopping every 1 second or so. And this has to be done every time you run the Routine. Its not a big problem it just works and its worth it for Blood and UH pvp.
 
Let me explain a bit more about the "freeze" issue with all my CR.

I can not speak of all other CR but as far as I know, I tried to make my CR do a lot more in 1 Global Cooldown (GCD) and the more work to do, the slower it get.

Lets take this DK for example, instead of just tunnel vision the current target, my CR do something more like.

Check current target if attack will break CC.
Scan for other target for Strangulate.
Scan for other target for Mind Freeze.
Scan for other target for Death Grip.
Scan for other target for Pet Gnaw.
Scan for other target for Pet Charge.
Scan for other target to predict incoming damage and use Defensive Cooldown.
Scan for other target to find friend low HP to help them.
Scan for other target... to use all possible DK spell...
...

All the "Scan for other target" is the main reason make it slow a bit, but it worth it especially in PvP.
 
New info... Casting an Icy Touch with a Death Rune that used to be a Blood Rune will turn over an Unholy Rune into a death rune...

So: Blood Boil, Blood Boil, Icy Touch, Icy Touch - now the Blood Boils will turn over as Death Runes, use them as Icy Touch's and, for whatever reason, Free Unholy Runes will turn into Death runes.......

SO: You can go BB, BB, IT, IT, IT, IT, BB, BB and have 6 Death Runes up w/o casting Blood Tap... because the extra 2 Icy Touch's turned over Unholy Runes, and then last Blood Boils turned over your 2 new Blood Runes into Death Runes... so now you have 6 Death Runes.

Slamming 6 Necrotics into a target will result in 200k+ healing absorbs....................................

Just some theory crafting food for thought - I'm still not sure if the CR is refusing to use Death Runes unless for Necrotic Strike or for situational Soul Reaps/User Peel Icy Veins
 
Seems same is happening for DK as it is for Hunter on the same raid. Halls of Flesh-shaping - on Primordius Boss.

Included logfile if it helps any for you.

What happens is the the rotation just stops on the boss.
 

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cant use lazyraider in arena,it works perfectly in rbgs and raids,any reason why?sorry if someone asked before

combat bot works fine but its slow as a turtle,would love to use the framelock of lazyraider
 
ikopjn said:
cant use lazyraider in arena,it works perfectly in rbgs and raids,any reason why?sorry if someone asked before

combat bot works fine but its slow as a turtle,would love to use the framelock of lazyraider
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You need special edition for rbg/arena I believe and use Tyrael not lazyraider
 
On a side note, I am wondering what everyone's highest ratings are they have achieved with this profile in both 2s and 3s. Post honestly! :) I just started using and am tweaking it a bit but got 1650 in 2s so far with rlf playing undergeared resto druid in just mal honor gear. My dk has tyran weap and 5 pc's of tyran gear atm for reference.
 
Tunaha hello! Most have problems with knocking drinking healer, located in LoS. CR continues to fight and no runes to death and decay, it is necessary to stop CR. Maybe a little bit of code will help to use death and decay automatically? Thx
 
xifter said:
On a side note, I am wondering what everyone's highest ratings are they have achieved with this profile in both 2s and 3s. Post honestly! :) I just started using and am tweaking it a bit but got 1650 in 2s so far with rlf playing undergeared resto druid in just mal honor gear. My dk has tyran weap and 5 pc's of tyran gear atm for reference.
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Beyond 1800 you'll need to stop allowing it to auto cc, and coordinate strang/asph with teammates, that's pretty much all. I can manual a better rotation, because a lot of it is very situational - mostly because the bot won't pool death runes and dump a bunch of necrotics in a row, which is devastating pressure. I'd suggest turning off auto presence and practice with a keybind for just swapping Blood and UH - bot won't 'recognize' moments of opportunity for swapping to UH. Frankly, an awesome logic would be to swap to Blood when 2+ enemies are targeting you and swap to UH otherwise (you should be fine with just 1 dps on you).

2s is much more straightforward.

Beyond 2k you'll need to turn off auto dark sim and bait out and anticipate things like Pain Suppression from priests and cast it on your healer etc. The bot makes it pretty easy to focus on dark sim, coordinating cc, and some other utility stuff like casting Anti-Magic Zone on a teammate that's getting blown up by godcomp or something.

Mostly though, your teammates will drag ass unless they're geared/good as you'll probably be vastly outperforming them in damage, interrupts, self heals.

One thing I'd love to see as a more high end tactic, is for the CR to look for hunter traps and have your pet move onto them :)
 
Sorry Tuanha :) I would also like to know how the symbol of death coil. I have not found the settings on it.
 
There are 6 or more logic about death coil. I don't have my code right now but i made CR do these think for dead coil:
  • Kill Totem at range
  • Attack enemy if you can't get into melee
  • Heal Pet
  • Build up Dark Transformation when you have nothing to do
  • Use in Proc - Unholy
  • Use in rotation - Unholy
  • Heal You with Lichborne
 
tuanha said:
There are 6 or more logic about death coil. I don't have my code right now but i made CR do these think for dead coil:
  • Kill Totem at range
  • Attack enemy if you can't get into melee
  • Heal Pet
  • Build up Dark Transformation when you have nothing to do
  • Use in Proc - Unholy
  • Use in rotation - Unholy
  • Heal You with Lichborne
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Tuanha - 2 requests

Is there any way you could limit the totems it will attach with Death Coil? For example, only attack spirit link, mana tide, healing tide, and grounding?

Also, Is there any way to WAY lower the priority on festering strike? When I get death runes that I could use to necrotic spam... it will use festering strike and maybe 2 necrotics if I am lucky most of the time.

Please let me know if this is an option you can add or a revision you can make.

Thanks!!
 
Noxxic shows 2H frost being superior in PvE compared to DW Frost.

Maybe focus on PvE just 2h frost? less weapons to search for too.
 
xifter said:
Tuanha - 2 requests

Is there any way you could limit the totems it will attach with Death Coil? For example, only attack spirit link, mana tide, healing tide, and grounding?

Also, Is there any way to WAY lower the priority on festering strike? When I get death runes that I could use to necrotic spam... it will use festering strike and maybe 2 necrotics if I am lucky most of the time.

Please let me know if this is an option you can add or a revision you can make.

Thanks!!
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+1

An option in the GUI like Death Rune Usage, where our pulldowns are Normal or Only Necrotic Strike/Soul Reaper would be awesome (because you want to use soul reap if you can). That way, only use of death runes would be user commands, like icy veins for roots :)

So with Only Necrotic Strike, we'd spam blood runes into Blood Boil, frost runes into Icy Touch, Plague Strike on targets with less than 2 diseases, Scourge Strike with free Unholy Runes, and only use Death Runes for necrotics. This is essentially the top UH PvP "rotation", outside of the Icy Touch bug I mentioned earlier (for whatever reason, if you use a Death Rune that used to be a Blood Rune for Icy Touch, it will turn over an Unholy Rune into a Death Rune... no idea why) but it may end up getting fixed and is frankly less important than the Necrotic Only logic (I assume adding logic to exploit the Icy Touch bug would make my suggestion not work as well).

As a quick note, festering strike is actually taking a nerf in 5.3, so that part of the PvP rotation will become even worse shortly here.
 
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Gurkis said:
Noxxic is shit. Use Icy Veins.
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Ej/icy veins/noxxic ppst rotations that sim the highest dps from simcraft. Only difference is icy veins and ej have discussion forums on min/maxxing your dps while noxxic does not.

Also, in reguards to which is worse as far as actual theorycrafting and worse overall content related specific to dk dps, icy viens is garbage compared to ej.
 
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