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Superbad (Druid CC)
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wowhead.com/spell=81022 doesnt use Ravage
Can you give my the spell id of the pvp set Aura you get?
Wanted to check the DPS of this one cause Ive been using it for a while but I've noticed its not using Shred while in Raids at all so I switched to another to compare it to use and not using it.
Druid ilvl 473, no chants or gems (actually shoulders chanted by scribe)
Agi: 10,763
DMG: 8,381-11,010
DPS: 9.954
AP: 21,871
Haste: 2.64%
Hit: 7.57%
Exp: 7.51%
Crit: 25.89%
Mastery: 50.45%
I will run three Routines with LazyRaider for 5 minutes popping trinket and Berserk manually in synch with Tiger's Fury
I will also do the test twice
All Routines updated to most recent Revision.
Superbad:
1st Attempt:
Min: 45K Max: 51K
Within the first minute the Routine reaches its max DPS of 51K through out the rest of the time the dps bounces between 45K-49K, and I saw it using shred amazingly, Trash is also use to hit 2 other training dummies within range
2nd Attempt:
Min: 49k Max: 65k
Alright within the first 30 seconds Routine reaches its max @ 65K. For the next minute or so the bot is able to maintain a dps between 50k-54K. I did not change anything that I did not do in first attempt. These results are much different from my first attempt I will debate whether or not to come back and do a 3rd attempt to see what it does.
FeralKitty - used advised talents
1st Attempt:
Min: 42k Max: 51k
Alright within the first 20 seconds it reaches max @ 51K. I did not see this one using Shred, the dps bounced around between 43K-45K, not very impressed with this one makes me not wanted to test it again but I have to.
2nd Attempt:
Min: 43k Max: 61k
This time the Routine decides to use shred and once again the Max dps is pushed to 61K within the first 40 seconds. After that like first attempt the dps stays between 43K-45K. One thing that I did not see it do was keep re-applying the Weakend Armor debuff which could be the cause of this...
FPS:
1st Attempt:
Min: 36K Max: 52K
First 25 seconds able to reach max dps, after a while saw it hit its minimum than Routine stay around the 38K-40K area, it was re-applying Weakend Armor.
2nd Attempt:
Min: 38k Max: 45k
Stayed mostly in the 40K region this round, nothing really notable this round...
Hopefully this helps yall out like it did me.
Druid ilvl 473, no chants or gems (actually shoulders chanted by scribe)
Agi: 10,763
DMG: 8,381-11,010
DPS: 9.954
AP: 21,871
Haste: 2.64%
Hit: 7.57%
Exp: 7.51%
Crit: 25.89%
Mastery: 50.45%
I will run three Routines with LazyRaider for 5 minutes popping trinket and Berserk manually in synch with Tiger's Fury
I will also do the test twice
All Routines updated to most recent Revision.
Superbad:
1st Attempt:
Min: 45K Max: 51K
Within the first minute the Routine reaches its max DPS of 51K through out the rest of the time the dps bounces between 45K-49K, and I saw it using shred amazingly, Trash is also use to hit 2 other training dummies within range
2nd Attempt:
Min: 49k Max: 65k
Alright within the first 30 seconds Routine reaches its max @ 65K. For the next minute or so the bot is able to maintain a dps between 50k-54K. I did not change anything that I did not do in first attempt. These results are much different from my first attempt I will debate whether or not to come back and do a 3rd attempt to see what it does.
FeralKitty - used advised talents
1st Attempt:
Min: 42k Max: 51k
Alright within the first 20 seconds it reaches max @ 51K. I did not see this one using Shred, the dps bounced around between 43K-45K, not very impressed with this one makes me not wanted to test it again but I have to.
2nd Attempt:
Min: 43k Max: 61k
This time the Routine decides to use shred and once again the Max dps is pushed to 61K within the first 40 seconds. After that like first attempt the dps stays between 43K-45K. One thing that I did not see it do was keep re-applying the Weakend Armor debuff which could be the cause of this...
FPS:
1st Attempt:
Min: 36K Max: 52K
First 25 seconds able to reach max dps, after a while saw it hit its minimum than Routine stay around the 38K-40K area, it was re-applying Weakend Armor.
2nd Attempt:
Min: 38k Max: 45k
Stayed mostly in the 40K region this round, nothing really notable this round...
Hopefully this helps yall out like it did me.
Hehe, thanks for this report. 
Its intended that Superbad does NOT use Shred in most situations!
We use Shred as a cat if 1 of the following conditions met:
If none of these conditions met, we will use Mangle instead, because this is a dps gain.
Even if Shred does 20% more Damage on Bleeding Targets its a dps gain, because it costs 5 more Energy then Mangle.
(Note: if you are incarnation specced and its up, Ravage will be used instead of Shred | Mangle)
Regarging your result:
Its normal that your result differ.
With my cat i get something between 110k and 130k dps on a training dummy. This is really very random.
If you want atleast comparable result you should do atleast 10x 10minutes runs @ Dummy and then built the average.
Have fun with your cat!
Its intended that Superbad does NOT use Shred in most situations!
We use Shred as a cat if 1 of the following conditions met:
- Clearcasting is up
- Berserk is up
- Our energy regeneration rate is above 15 energy per seconds (---> lots of haste)
If none of these conditions met, we will use Mangle instead, because this is a dps gain.
Even if Shred does 20% more Damage on Bleeding Targets its a dps gain, because it costs 5 more Energy then Mangle.
(Note: if you are incarnation specced and its up, Ravage will be used instead of Shred | Mangle)
Regarging your result:
Its normal that your result differ.
With my cat i get something between 110k and 130k dps on a training dummy. This is really very random.
If you want atleast comparable result you should do atleast 10x 10minutes runs @ Dummy and then built the average.
Have fun with your cat!
superconnard
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Report bug :
Dont make rotation in damren, roshak and co in Iron Qon HM last phase!
demorph to cast Healing touch...
Suggestion : Maybe add an option to use malm in pvp mode? and implementation of soul swap in tot boss same as aggree it's seem to be hard to implement that
Dont make rotation in damren, roshak and co in Iron Qon HM last phase!
demorph to cast Healing touch...
Suggestion : Maybe add an option to use malm in pvp mode? and implementation of soul swap in tot boss same as aggree it's seem to be hard to implement that
killerteddy
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Does this still turn you into a human to cast healing touch?
You suggest using maim in what case?
superconnard
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like another kick
Maim has nearly no CD. 10sec. So if you say CC to maim every cast. There will be no Bite and Rip. All combo points will go in maim. On caster of course.
But you can say to maim if Rip and CR are 15+ sec...
superconnard
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yes i'm agree but maybe in particulary skill > sheep, hez etc.
And i confirm the cc dont rip in roshak, damren and quetzal when in solo (dont know why...)
And i confirm the cc dont rip in roshak, damren and quetzal when in solo (dont know why...)
killerteddy
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On Iron Qon it seems to be buggy and doesnt do the routine like on the other bosses.
ULTIMATE-SEVEN
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Thank you for all the work you've done, just great!!!
Very nice work.
Very nice work.
dunsebility
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Hi.
I have tried several routines by now, and none of these seems to solve the issue that I'm having:
Every routine cannot figure out how to go out of cat-form in order for it to go in flight-form. Is it me being stupid?
Thanks in advance.
Dunsebility
EDIT:
Nevermind, I figured it out - finally.
Had to type: /console autoUnshift 1
I have tried several routines by now, and none of these seems to solve the issue that I'm having:
Every routine cannot figure out how to go out of cat-form in order for it to go in flight-form. Is it me being stupid?
Thanks in advance.
Dunsebility
EDIT:
Nevermind, I figured it out - finally.
Had to type: /console autoUnshift 1
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Hello handnavi.
Is it possible to use Shred instead of Mangle if behind target?
According to elitists priority lists it goes Shred>Mangle
[Feral-Cat] Mists of Pandaria 5.2 - Elitist Jerks
So we can see looking at top ranked WoL cats.
Also is it any possible to make the routine reapply dots under procs of Rune of Re-Origination - Item - World of Warcraft ?
Can you PM me your Skype pls to discuss?
Is it possible to use Shred instead of Mangle if behind target?
According to elitists priority lists it goes Shred>Mangle
[Feral-Cat] Mists of Pandaria 5.2 - Elitist Jerks
So we can see looking at top ranked WoL cats.
Also is it any possible to make the routine reapply dots under procs of Rune of Re-Origination - Item - World of Warcraft ?
Can you PM me your Skype pls to discuss?
Heeelllloooooo.
The guide at elitistjerks is outdated.
Also most top ranked players still dont know that Mangle > Shred.
You will do less damage. Thats a fact.
Rune of Origination is allready supported but untested (the trinket just wont drop for me
)It would help me alot, if you can give me the Id of the Buff?
I will pm you my Skype.
masterdragon
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any way to get it to stop blowing cds on trash?
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