ShamWOW for HB2 - An Enhance/Elemental/Resto + PVP/RaF Healbot by Bobby53

[shlord]

great class bobby53, thanks +rep

one question: is it normal it stay idle for like 3seconds everytime he loot mobs?

if isnt i can upload the log for you

thanks again

regards

edit: i think i found out, idk why i had bug submitter plugin on.. i turned off. and now is faster after loot mobs..

 

[bobby53]

great class bobby53, thanks +rep
one question: is it normal it stay idle for like 3seconds everytime he loot mobs?
if isnt i can upload the log for you
thanks again
regards
edit: i think i found out, idk why i had bug submitter plugin on.. i turned off. and now is faster after loot mobs..

shlord, CC's only handle the class specific things during combat, so only things unique to a Shaman are ShamWOWs responsibility. Looting is something done by all classes. I mention this because problems in that category will get answered the quickest when posted in the HonorBuddy Support forum. If you have another question or issue for the ShamWOW thread, be sure to follow the steps in the ShamWOW FAQ as referenced in the quote below. Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

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Have a question or problem while using ShamWOW? Carefully read and follow the steps in ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. In addition to common questions answered, there is a template and steps on how to post your issue/question. I won't be able to assist you without the information described there...

 

[Filmfilm]

Is there a guide how to tweak it to be perfect for 10/25 man DS raiding?
He just goes oom all the time and does little hps.
In 5 man he is doing awsome!

 

[bobby53]

Is there a guide how to tweak it to be perfect for 10/25 man DS raiding?
He just goes oom all the time and does little hps.
In 5 man he is doing awsome!

Filmfilm, Thanks for the post, but there isn't enough detail to provide a reasonable answer (it doesn't mention which spec you are running.) See the ShamWOW FAQ linked in the quote below for details on how to post issues or questions so I can provide an accurate answer. Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

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Have a question or problem while using ShamWOW? Carefully read and follow the "how to post" steps in ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. In addition to providing answers to common questions, there is also a template to copy to your post and steps on how to attach a complete debug log file. I won't be able to assist you without the information described there...

Note: If you are running Resto spec in end game raids, go to the Group Healing tab and click "Raid Healing". That should be all the config you need. If you are running OOM at that point, its due to either your gear or the raids. Thanks again for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[sprankton]

Bobby is the man, 356 pages and still answering questions. Great CC too.

 

[Filmfilm]

Filmfilm, Thanks for the post, but there isn't enough detail to provide a reasonable answer (it doesn't mention which spec you are running.) See the ShamWOW FAQ linked in the quote below for details on how to post issues or questions so I can provide an accurate answer. Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

Thanks for the fast reply.
Yes, I am running Lazy Raider with resto specc. Ilevel 380. Doing LFR mostly, so thats 25 man.
The problem really is the rest of the healers in the raid spam their AoE spells, and I have no way of competing with them with the raid healing specc.
Do I need to have higher % on the rain healing settings in group healing?

This is by far the best CC there is, for any class. I wish they were all this good

Keep up the good work!
(Maybe do some other classes for lazy raiding?)

 

[bobby53]

Thanks for the fast reply.
Yes, I am running Lazy Raider with resto specc. Ilevel 380. Doing LFR mostly, so thats 25 man.
The problem really is the rest of the healers in the raid spam their AoE spells, and I have no way of competing with them with the raid healing specc.
Do I need to have higher % on the rain healing settings in group healing?

This is by far the best CC there is, for any class. I wish they were all this good

Keep up the good work!
(Maybe do some other classes for lazy raiding?)

Filmfilm, Thanks for sharing your ShamWOW succes! +rep. Be sure to follow the steps mentioned in the ShamWOW FAQ for posting. I cannot emphasize this enough even if you don't believe that's needed. The best you can do presently for Sniping Heals (casting heals that aren't really needed on the premise they might be by the time the cast completes) is the Healing Rain spec. Use that preset, but be sure to change your talent spec to 7/2/32 [CLICK HERE] with the indicated glyphs. ShamWOW will play whatever you spec well, but you need to specifically choose:

- Will I be a Cleanse Bot?

- Will I ever heal the Tanks?

For LFR, these things aren't always explicitly stated until after a wipe. I am working on revised presets that you can choose roles from.

Thanks and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[Tama]

Hello again bobby!

You have any ETA for Spirit Link Totem support?

Keep this up!

 

[kbrebel04]

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Stormwind Training Dummies
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Lightning Bolt at 5 stacks of Malestrom
What did happen (be specific): Did not cast lightning bolt when stormstrike and Lava Lash were on cooldown like it should, just continued on with rotation while the buff wore off.
Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time): 6:01:36 PM


Additional Note: It will cast it if i get out of melee range, if that helps you identify the problem at all.

 

[Junky123]

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Stormwind Training Dummies
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Lightning Bolt at 5 stacks of Malestrom
What did happen (be specific): Did not cast lightning bolt when stormstrike and Lava Lash were on cooldown like it should, just continued on with rotation while the buff wore off.
Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time): 6:01:36 PM


Additional Note: It will cast it if i get out of melee range, if that helps you identify the problem at all.

Confirmed.
Same problem here, which is a huge dps-loss. Would be awesome, if bobby could implement/fix it =D

And another problem (but I haven't got any log):
If there is a group of enemies, one of them (my target) is fleeing and I'm following it while my life is getting low, the bot tries to heal himself while following the mob. My char begins to cast the heal, which gets instantly interrupted because he is following the mob. Already died sometimes because of this.

 

[bobby53]

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Stormwind Training Dummies
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Lightning Bolt at 5 stacks of Malestrom
What did happen (be specific): Did not cast lightning bolt when stormstrike and Lava Lash were on cooldown like it should, just continued on with rotation while the buff wore off.
Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time): 6:01:36 PM


Additional Note: It will cast it if i get out of melee range, if that helps you identify the problem at all.

kbrebel04, The session with the training dummy was run Solo (not in a group.) That behavior was changed per the following note in the Change History for release 4.5.12:

o Change: Enhancement - Maelstrom Weapon support changed to favor Healing over Damage unless in Raid/Dungeon. If Maelstrom Proc has less than 2.5 seconds left and current hostile target will cast Lightning rather than letting it fall off unused. This is the same as the PVP support for Maelstrom already in place.

If you want to use a Party/Raid behavior on the training dummy, you will need to be in a party/raid while you are fighting. If you do you should see LB/CL casts on MW5.

A couple quick points:

- Maelstrom stack should have never fallen off although it was mentioned as an observation that it did. Since you were in stationary combat with a training dummy which never dies, it should always have been renewed before expiring. My assumption is that once it reached 5 stacks it stayed there, periodically being renewed by another Malestrom proc.

- The attached log file does not contain debug information, so if I wasn't already familiar with the circumstance described I wouldn't have been able to help you. I cannot research issues that do not have a complete debug log file. My suggestion is that until you are reasonably confident that you will not have to post an issue/question about ShamWOW, leave Debug Output turned on.

Thanks for the post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

Confirmed.
Same problem here, which is a huge dps-loss. Would be awesome, if bobby could implement/fix it =D

Working as designed. See the response to the original poster on this one.

And another problem (but I haven't got any log):
If there is a group of enemies, one of them (my target) is fleeing and I'm following it while my life is getting low, the bot tries to heal himself while following the mob. My char begins to cast the heal, which gets instantly interrupted because he is following the mob. Already died sometimes because of this.

Junky123, Thanks for the post, but unfortunately the description does not match the results of my testing. Logs accumulate until you delete them, so there should always be one corresponding to any problem you observe. I will be happy to research this further for you, just follow the steps provided in the FAQ linked below. I'll keep an eye out for your post. Thanks again and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

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Have a question or problem while using ShamWOW? Carefully read and follow the "how to post" steps in ShamWOW Frequently Asked Questions [CLICK HERE]. In addition to providing answers to common questions, there is also a template to copy to your post followed by steps on how to attach a complete debug log file. I won't be able to assist you if that information is not available...

 

[kbrebel04]

Frustrating me with this bobby. I don't just grab your CC and smack a dummy with it. I used it in DS, HoT Heroics and on a Dummy. I provided a log for the dummy because it is a stable environment for testing.

it does the exact same thing with in a party/raid/solo. It NEVER uses the maelstrom procs in any PVE environment as Enhancement IN MELEE RANGE. If you step outside of melee range it will use them but so long as you are in melee range it will NOT use maelstrom procs, period. I'm almost certain that is not "working as designed" as you keep saying after I post log after log >.<

 

[kbrebel04]

HonorBuddy Mode: LazyRaider
Shamans Location: Stormwind Training Dummies
What should have happened (be specific): Should have casted Lightning Bolt at 5 stacks of Malestrom
What did happen (be specific): Did not cast lightning bolt when stormstrike and Lava Lash were on cooldown like it should, just continued on with rotation while the buff wore off.
Computer time of problem (local time, not realm time):10:31:01 PM


Same issue, new log Debug ON in a Raid Group on a Target Dummy. Please do not ask me to go to DS or a heroic as i ASSURE you this happens everywhere, not just on a target dummy...

 

[boogeyman269]

Frustrating me with this bobby. I don't just grab your CC and smack a dummy with it. I used it in DS, HoT Heroics and on a Dummy. I provided a log for the dummy because it is a stable environment for testing.

it does the exact same thing with in a party/raid/solo. It NEVER uses the maelstrom procs in any PVE environment as Enhancement IN MELEE RANGE. If you step outside of melee range it will use them but so long as you are in melee range it will NOT use maelstrom procs, period. I'm almost certain that is not "working as designed" as you keep saying after I post log after log >.<

Yep im sure that will get him to help with that tone. Try writing your own cc and see how far you get i have tried on a different class for lack of cc's for priest and didn't get any further than the base template. Taking a negative tone toward someone that does this cc free of charge i doubt will get you very far.

 

[bobby53]

Frustrating me with this bobby. I don't just grab your CC and smack a dummy with it. I used it in DS, HoT Heroics and on a Dummy. I provided a log for the dummy because it is a stable environment for testing.

it does the exact same thing with in a party/raid/solo. It NEVER uses the maelstrom procs in any PVE environment as Enhancement IN MELEE RANGE. If you step outside of melee range it will use them but so long as you are in melee range it will NOT use maelstrom procs, period. I'm almost certain that is not "working as designed" as you keep saying after I post log after log >.<

Frustrating me with this kbrebel04... I don't just write random words on a page and click Post Quick Reply, nor do I find enjoyment in explaining multiple times to the same person how to post an issue. So I promise to resume being polite, if you promise to take a deep cleansing breath immediately prior to writing any post intended for me.

My previous careful review of your post indicated that the log file contained these lines:

[6:01:07 PM:066] Your Level 85 Dwarf Enhancement Shaman Build is:  
[6:01:07 PM:066] Eleme/Enhan/Resto   10/31/0
[6:01:07 PM:067] ... running the LazyRaider bot [COLOR=#ff0000]Solo [/COLOR]as Combat Only in Stormwind City

The word "Solo" highlighted above indicates you were not in a group. Since you were not a group, the combat behavior I wrote reserves Maelstrom Procs for healing. Since you don't take damage when fighting a training dummy, and the melee attacks keep refreshing Maelstrom stacks keeping them at 5, you will not see a LB or CL cast.

Not sure if you were frustrated that you either didn't read the change history or didn't remember it, regardless it would have been better for you to accept the explanation resulting from my analysis and then document that you believe there is a different problem occurring in raids.

I just saw you added another post, so will look into that for you when I have some time available.

Thanks for the posts and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[floppydrive]

Appreciate the CC, had some problems at first but it was just me being new to this. I use this combined with Kicks profile for leveling. Although i have seen the bot get stuck at times but im sure with enough searching i can fix this myself. Non the less , a+ !

 

[kbrebel04]

My apologies Bobby.

 

[bobby53]

Appreciate the CC, had some problems at first but it was just me being new to this. I use this combined with Kicks profile for leveling. Although i have seen the bot get stuck at times but im sure with enough searching i can fix this myself. Non the less , a+ !

hueyz, Thanks for the post on your ShamWOW success! +rep ShamWOW handles Shaman specific behaviors that occur during combat. Typically stucks while using a questing profile should be reported to the profile author (Kick based upon what you mentioned using.) Thanks again for your post and good luck with your Shaman, Bobby53

 

[bobby53]

My apologies Bobby.

No problem. My apologies for your frustrations. Hopefully with the last data provided we can get this for the benefit of all. Won't be able to look into it until much later today, but will make it the next thing I check into. Bobby53