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Phelons Playground - 4 Man Botting Routine

Phelon said:
My necro's stay out of melee a lot of the time. Depends on the topography really. They should only move to the mob if not in LoS, but it should always try to target a mob in LoS. I am currently farming 95s also with 2x necro barb monk. I need more dps and 2.7M dps isn't cutting it. I want to switch over to Trag Ouls on one of my guys but I do not have the gear to do it yet even at 1200 paragon.
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Yeah for 100+ Bosses you are going to need to have at least one of them running Trag Ouls. I really do suggest running a WD as well, even with a bug ridden trinity routine its outperforming 2x necro by a fair margin due to the amount of crazy aoe damage it puts out.

this is the build im running on a WD.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/93867-lon-4man-and-solo

P.S. any word on that update? ;)
 
BestWarOCE said:
Yeah for 100+ Bosses you are going to need to have at least one of them running Trag Ouls. I really do suggest running a WD as well, even with a bug ridden trinity routine its outperforming 2x necro by a fair margin due to the amount of crazy aoe damage it puts out.

this is the build im running on a WD.
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/93867-lon-4man-and-solo

P.S. any word on that update? ;)
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Update is still pending and WD would need gearing. The idea behind 2 necro's is once they are in a good spot, I can have one necro feed my main necro gear.

BestWarOCE said:
Also, i do suggest setting up some wizards to farm GR keys.. i have these guys farming T13 rifts in 2.5-4m depending on the rift. (gif is from a GR because i was leveling a few gems quickly)


https://i.gyazo.com/743cea1cfbdb11e75910488829c63f1c.mp4
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Sounds like too much work to level and gear out wizards. Trag Ouls should be able to do it in about the same amount of time if done correctly.
 
Phelon said:
Update is still pending and WD would need gearing. The idea behind 2 necro's is once they are in a good spot, I can have one necro feed my main necro gear.



Sounds like too much work to level and gear out wizards. Trag Ouls should be able to do it in about the same amount of time if done correctly.
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Yeah, i do the same, but if you want to get some really high augments you'll end up needing to substitute one in. Necros simply don't do enough enough AoE damage at high group rifts (they're fine for solo since reduced health pool).

What I've done is set up 4x Necro to funnel gear (They can farm 85 very quickly, which is enough to funnel gear, my main necro has 4 primals already and 3.6m sheet dps), 4x Wiz for farming T13 Grift Keys (took about 2 days to get them all T13 ready) and I geared a barb/monk/wd with all the mats i made from the T13 farm.

Initially its more work, but they have a flow now. The only thing holding me back from smashing the high GRs right now is the crashing. I also simply add the non-set items to my WD's itemlist and he can still funnel while doing the GRs.

Of course you can skip over the Wizards if you make a speed farm routine, but currently there arent any so wizards were the next best bet :p (also i am able to help you gear some wizards if its a path you want to go down, will just have 3 drop all lootlist items in town).
 
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BestWarOCE said:
Yeah, i do the same, but if you want to get some really high augments you'll end up needing to substitute one in. Necros simply don't do enough enough AoE damage at high group rifts (they're fine for solo since reduced health pool).

What I've done is set up 4x Necro to funnel gear (They can farm 85 very quickly, which is enough to funnel gear, my main necro has 4 primals already and 3.6m sheet dps), 4x Wiz for farming T13 Grift Keys (took about 2 days to get them all T13 ready) and I geared a barb/monk/wd with all the mats i made from the T13 farm.

Initially its more work, but they have a flow now. The only thing holding me back from smashing the high GRs right now is the crashing. I also simply add the non-set items to my WD's itemlist and he can still funnel while doing the GRs.

Of course you can skip over the Wizards if you make a speed farm routine, but currently there arent any so wizards were the next best bet :p (also i am able to help you gear some wizards if its a path you want to go down, will just have 3 drop all lootlist items in town).
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I appreciate the offer but honestly I don't have the time to invest in this game to do all of that. Programming stuff takes up too much time as it is. I will just stick around being sub par 100 clears =)
 
My necro sometime stuck behind ....
i haVE to change any settings ?
what is Your Tick per second setting ?
Area damage is good with this setup ?
Fedez
 
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Im using a LoN wd and rathmas necro, works totally fine for up to grift 104 (or 98 speeds which I am doing).
LoN wd uses totem with 20% dmg reduction as I found the only thing slowing me down is actually dying to arcane or standing in multiple aoe's. So LoN does not have the 20-30 million cold sheet dps (infight) but works as half dps, half supporting the necro.

conclusion: you dont need to have a bloodlancer necro

edit: I use the chinese lon wd routine with some edits on my end.
edit2: By the way this is on season, with not the best gear and only paragon 1500+ and on both dps I put a lot into vitality. Even dying once is a no-go.
 
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anonym23 said:
Im using a LoN wd and rathmas necro, works totally fine for up to grift 104 (or 98 speeds which I am doing).
LoN wd uses totem with 20% dmg reduction as I found the only thing slowing me down is actually dying to arcane or standing in multiple aoe's. So LoN does not have the 20-30 million cold sheet dps (infight) but works as half dps, half supporting the necro.

conclusion: you dont need to have a bloodlancer necro

edit: I use the chinese lon wd routine with some edits on my end.
edit2: By the way this is on season, with not the best gear and only paragon 1500+ and on both dps I put a lot into vitality. Even dying once is a no-go.
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can u link your chinese lon routine?
 
anonym23 said:
Im using a LoN wd and rathmas necro, works totally fine for up to grift 104 (or 98 speeds which I am doing).
LoN wd uses totem with 20% dmg reduction as I found the only thing slowing me down is actually dying to arcane or standing in multiple aoe's. So LoN does not have the 20-30 million cold sheet dps (infight) but works as half dps, half supporting the necro.

conclusion: you dont need to have a bloodlancer necro

edit: I use the chinese lon wd routine with some edits on my end.
edit2: By the way this is on season, with not the best gear and only paragon 1500+ and on both dps I put a lot into vitality. Even dying once is a no-go.
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in a 4 man group i should use monk barb necro and wd? or 3 dps and a monk?
 
anonym23 said:
Im using a LoN wd and rathmas necro, works totally fine for up to grift 104 (or 98 speeds which I am doing).
LoN wd uses totem with 20% dmg reduction as I found the only thing slowing me down is actually dying to arcane or standing in multiple aoe's. So LoN does not have the 20-30 million cold sheet dps (infight) but works as half dps, half supporting the necro.

conclusion: you dont need to have a bloodlancer necro

edit: I use the chinese lon wd routine with some edits on my end.
edit2: By the way this is on season, with not the best gear and only paragon 1500+ and on both dps I put a lot into vitality. Even dying once is a no-go.
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yes pls link your lon Wd
 
I finally got a Bloodmancer set to 2.3M with out Augments and I should be able to push that up to 2.7m-2.9m with Augments. I am going to try to get Bloodlancer done at some point today. I will be adding LoN WD here soon if Bloodmancer does not work out.

I might have too much screen freezing (thanks Diablo 3 Failure devs) to manage a non pet build.
 
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Phelon said:
I finally got a Bloodmancer set to 2.3M with out Augments and I should be able to push that up to 2.7m-2.9m with Augments. I am going to try to get Bloodlancer done at some point today. I will be adding LoN WD here soon if Bloodmancer does not work out.

I might have too much screen freezing (thanks Diablo 3 Failure devs) to manage a non pet build.
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Bloodmancer should work out, should still do the WD tho anyway ;)
 
BestWarOCE said:
Bloodmancer should work out, should still do the WD tho anyway ;)
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Bloodlancer is currently in testing. 3.2M Sheet DPS. Lucked me out a Primal Tragoul Weapon with perfect stats =)

Do you know if Obsid Ring works with Corpse Lance?

Edit: I gave up on Corpse Lance. Diablo 3 Freezing is so bad I Can't even bot correctly. I did how ever commit it to GiT. So you can use it if you want to.
 
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Phelon said:
Bloodlancer is currently in testing. 3.2M Sheet DPS. Lucked me out a Primal Tragoul Weapon with perfect stats =)

Do you know if Obsid Ring works with Corpse Lance?

Edit: I gave up on Corpse Lance. Diablo 3 Freezing is so bad I Can't even bot correctly. I did how ever commit it to GiT. So you can use it if you want to.
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Whats this freezing issue you're talking about? Or is it only with Corpse Lance?

Going to run a WD instead now?
 
Rip, at least they're responding in that thread.

Been playing this, very strong and seems extremely bottable. Also uses that primal weapon you have

 
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