ahh I see, ya I do that cause sometimes I wanna be super lazy in a zone and turn on auto target and sometimes I am soloing and want to target myself or want to target myself in a zone. Is it possible to make that an option that way it doesn't happen for me? if not no biggie I can switch it back easy enough now that I know its intended. Also I meant I was getting disconnected from the server a lot but it seems it might have just been my isp connection cause it hasn't happened at all today, but no crashes I worded that wrong.
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ahh I see, ya I do that cause sometimes I wanna be super lazy in a zone and turn on auto target and sometimes I am soloing and want to target myself or want to target myself in a zone. Is it possible to make that an option that way it doesn't happen for me? if not no biggie I can switch it back easy enough now that I know its intended. Also I meant I was getting disconnected from the server a lot but it seems it might have just been my isp connection cause it hasn't happened at all today, but no crashes I worded that wrong.
Been using this on WHM for a while now, and it works fine most of the time.
One small problem I have is that your routine struggles to keep up with healing in places like Brayflox hard. On big pulls if I just use the routine the tank will die pretty quickly and we wipe. To get over this I need to cast cure II over the top of the routine, and everything is good. My healing percentages are fine, it just seems the routine pauses too long, before the next heal. Is this something to do with the double cast timer ? I currently have it set to 1, should it be 0 ?
Also when I cast protect on a party, it will cast it twice, maybe because the game is still applying the buff to all party members and the routine detects some don't have it. Double cast timer again ?
Keep up the good work.......
One small problem I have is that your routine struggles to keep up with healing in places like Brayflox hard. On big pulls if I just use the routine the tank will die pretty quickly and we wipe. To get over this I need to cast cure II over the top of the routine, and everything is good. My healing percentages are fine, it just seems the routine pauses too long, before the next heal. Is this something to do with the double cast timer ? I currently have it set to 1, should it be 0 ?
Also when I cast protect on a party, it will cast it twice, maybe because the game is still applying the buff to all party members and the routine detects some don't have it. Double cast timer again ?
Keep up the good work.......
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I haven't had any issues with healing, you're setting the double cast timer from the healing manager right? It shouldn't pause with a healing double cast of 1, do you have DPS enabled? It seems like there are different forms of Protect that RB can and can't recognize, I haven't found a fail-safe way of handling Protect and Stoneskin.
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how to use this
Thanks for the feedback
Yup, I am setting double cast in healing manager.....and dps is not enabled. I have tried playing around with healing percentages and the tank is always prioritized......but the tank will still die, unless I manually cure over the top of your routine.
As I said it is fine most of the time everywhere else, the only issues I have are on big pulls in Brayflox hard and Coil T1 when at certain times you need spam cures on the tank.
Protect is no biggie.......as I said i just usually interrupt it.
Yup, I am setting double cast in healing manager.....and dps is not enabled. I have tried playing around with healing percentages and the tank is always prioritized......but the tank will still die, unless I manually cure over the top of your routine.
As I said it is fine most of the time everywhere else, the only issues I have are on big pulls in Brayflox hard and Coil T1 when at certain times you need spam cures on the tank.
Protect is no biggie.......as I said i just usually interrupt it.
BLM routine is meant to work at 50, so it's probably trying to cast spells you dont have yet.
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Is this only for support classes? Like this routine is mainly for when your in a party and you would use it on your healer class?
Hey Exmortem, I'd like to request, on Bard, to have an option to not include Blunt Arrow in the rotation. I cannot currently use Magitek for Bard in Coil turn 2 or The Chimera since it is a Bard's primary role to interrupt High Voltage and Dragons/Rams Voice respectively. I'm sure there are other instances but these are two off the top of my head.
Regarding the Warrior routine. If possible I'd like to request that the default rotation be enmity instead of dps. It's kind of a pain in the ass to run around with L Shift or L Ctrl held all the time.
I'd also like to see the Black Mage's routine refined a little more. I'll need to play on it more to get you specifics, but it does some wonky things sometimes that aren't logical such as it's use of blizzard 1 when blizzard 3 is a better option.
The last thing I'd like to suggest is aoe rotations. So, I understand that in an effort to make the bot as automated as possible it's a great idea to allow it to determine the best time to aoe a group of mobs. However, the reality of this is just not the case. especially with a lot of groups doing Brayflox Longstop (Hard Mode) runs and a large portion of the rotation needs to be aoe. I would really like to see something along the lines of Holding L Shift for aoe rotations on many of the classes so that we can determine the best time to aoe instead of allowing the bot base to make that calculation.
Anyway, thanks for all your hard work and I look forward to hearing back from you on this.
Regarding the Warrior routine. If possible I'd like to request that the default rotation be enmity instead of dps. It's kind of a pain in the ass to run around with L Shift or L Ctrl held all the time.
I'd also like to see the Black Mage's routine refined a little more. I'll need to play on it more to get you specifics, but it does some wonky things sometimes that aren't logical such as it's use of blizzard 1 when blizzard 3 is a better option.
The last thing I'd like to suggest is aoe rotations. So, I understand that in an effort to make the bot as automated as possible it's a great idea to allow it to determine the best time to aoe a group of mobs. However, the reality of this is just not the case. especially with a lot of groups doing Brayflox Longstop (Hard Mode) runs and a large portion of the rotation needs to be aoe. I would really like to see something along the lines of Holding L Shift for aoe rotations on many of the classes so that we can determine the best time to aoe instead of allowing the bot base to make that calculation.
Anyway, thanks for all your hard work and I look forward to hearing back from you on this.
I like the warrior default rotation the way it is meshing the initial enmnity rotation then switching to dps rotation. If anything make it where you do not have to hold down Shift L or Control L. Just tap to swap to what you want the rotation to be please? Also I am not sure why my warrior will not use aoe rotation when I have 2+ mobs lined up. It never uses flash or overpower.
Kiljaedon, I'll be honest, I haven't used Magitek for Warrior much because it scares me how unpredictable it is and with tanking being such a crucial role it's important that it runs flawlessly imo. Every other class, save healer, can fuck around pretty much all they want, but tanks and healers need to be on the ball 100% of the time and any program to emulate that needs to be similar. The Paladin rotation works well from what I've played with up to lvl 31ish, but Warrior seems kinda like it needs more kinks worked out. I agree, however, that it totally needs to have a default set so that we do not have to hold L shift/ctrl the whole time, it's just a poor ergonomic design.
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If you don't want it to use Blunt Arrow then uncheck interrupt from the combat routine settings, I also just don't add anything to the interrupt list that I don't want it to interrupt. Bard is my main job, I use it to interrupt what I want it to flawlessly in Coil.
What is exactly wrong with the warrior rotation which makes it poor ergonomic design? If you don't hold any buttons it should do the enmity rotation twice and then move to the dps rotation till buffs are applied and then go back to enmity, if it's not using the correct skill in a certain situation then you need to specifically tell me which skill should be used when as I don't play Warrior and botted it all the way to 50, however there was a user from this thread who suggested the whole hotkey deal and reported that it was working great. My issue lately is time, soon i'll be out of the military and will be a full time student with more time. I'll look into the flash and overpower code.
Truthfully, I wish there were more people who developed for RB. I started doing this cause there was a need, I don't feel like I have the skillset yet to accomplish what I have in mind.
Exmortem. You are doing an excellent job. The scholar healing is so flawless that I can multibox my main (dragoon), and use a combo of my old multi boxing software and rebornbuddy to bring the scholar in and still do healing on par with my counterpart. The follow system on FF 14 is infinitely better then wow and my friend who has almost no lag issues lets him auto follow him during our raids letting him dodge just fine minus a few times i have to manually move on Titan Extreme and Garuda when you have to hide in those corners from all the tornados.
I do not even have to be a pro active healer on him minus setting down sacred soil and you are doing a great job for helping getting the ball rolling on Reborn buddy. Honorbuddy 1.0 started slow as well and only had 2 developers for it vs 1 for rebornbuddy so give it time. Rome was not built in a day and I need to show my support to you Exmortem with a donation and whatever feedback we can give.
A man who is part of the military has the highest respect I can give a person I do not even know. I gladly give donations to hard working people who try to put out free quality routines and plugins over paid stuff that Honorbuddy has become with donations.
I do not even have to be a pro active healer on him minus setting down sacred soil and you are doing a great job for helping getting the ball rolling on Reborn buddy. Honorbuddy 1.0 started slow as well and only had 2 developers for it vs 1 for rebornbuddy so give it time. Rome was not built in a day and I need to show my support to you Exmortem with a donation and whatever feedback we can give.
A man who is part of the military has the highest respect I can give a person I do not even know. I gladly give donations to hard working people who try to put out free quality routines and plugins over paid stuff that Honorbuddy has become with donations.
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Honestly taking on a warrior now is not as bad as it use to be. You can actually cycle through you 3 small defensives for near 80% upkeep and keep inner beast for when you know the big hits are coming or your two big defensive cooldowns. The rotation on Magitek is solid and I think the default should stay the same. If anything keep it what it is now and if someone wants to use just the emnity or dps rotation just a quick tap to make it default for people would work. Ive used this routine to tank on turns 6-7 so far just fine and all extremes minus ifrit extreme.
Understood, it could have been my lack of thoroughly playing with it to see the rotation, so my apologies. It seemed to just be randomly popping between enmity and dps rotations by default so I felt I had to hold either L Shit of L Ctrl ALL the time. If that's the case I'll go back and give it another shot, but I didn't want to go into a dungeon with that kind of uncertainty lol.
But in any case, Ex, you're doing a great job and I appreciate all the work you've done on this. Would that I knew how to code myself I'd happily be part of the solution.
But in any case, Ex, you're doing a great job and I appreciate all the work you've done on this. Would that I knew how to code myself I'd happily be part of the solution.
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