CLU (Codified Likeness Utility) - (Pt. 2)

wulf · Oct 14, 2012

Condemned said:
New mage changes are awesome. I can confirm that the rune of power does work. I added it to the fire rotation and tested it. It will apply the buff whenever the player does not have it and will check to reapply when you move. Great work to whoever figured that out - i had been fighting with it for a couple of days.

Condemned, thanks for reporting in..Update from SVN (All Mage Specs now have Rune of Power)

Clubwar · Oct 14, 2012

for raid better rune of power or invocattion?? i think invocattion but what you say?

Condemned · Oct 14, 2012

Going to depend a lot on the fight and your play style. I personally thing rune of power is more flexible as you can lay down 2 at a time and move in between them - not to mention rune provides 100% mana regen. Invocation will require you to take the time to evocate and monitor your spell dmg buff and rinse and repeat. It all comes down to your play style and what youre comfortable with - test them both and see what you like best.

Laga100 · Oct 14, 2012

!!! Currently there is an issue with the lates Honorbuddy that causes long pauses between casting. To get around this you can use Honorbuddy version .465 if you have it. !!!!

this is a big trouble atm. can someone fix this?
in dungeon or raid the bot is not to use with this error

Middge · Oct 14, 2012

Latest revision of this CC, ret paladins are 100% broken. Won't even engage mobs anymore. Just sits there and gets attacked until dead.

survivalhunter · Oct 14, 2012

Any news on the Hunter Focus Fire with only 1 stack of frenzy?

tyvm

Not2Legit · Oct 14, 2012

Cbf sifting through all these pages, has anyone used the affilock part of the CC, if so did it yield great results? From reading, I gathered locks are the hardest to write a good routine for because of how much goes into proper dps with them...but if anyone can do it, it's wulf...amirite? =P Look forward to hearing, "Lock routine is god tier" =P

wulf · Oct 14, 2012

Not2Legit said:
Cbf sifting through all these pages, has anyone used the affilock part of the CC, if so did it yield great results? From reading, I gathered locks are the hardest to write a good routine for because of how much goes into proper dps with them...but if anyone can do it, it's wulf...amirite? =P Look forward to hearing, "Lock routine is god tier" =P

Stormchasing has put together some good lock routines within CLU and as far as I know they are working well..

jokersmocker99 · Oct 14, 2012

Is it possible to make it use recuperate? (for rogues)

i cant find the option anywhere

Clubwar · Oct 14, 2012

Whit the last changes in magues i lost about 10k dps in raid

froggystyle · Oct 14, 2012

You rock

Cataphract · Oct 14, 2012

With the new version, my toon release the corpse at the spirit healer :/

hicip · Oct 14, 2012

Thank You Again but:

Fire Mage
Item.UseBagItem("Volcanic Potion", ret => Buff.UnitHasHasteBuff(Me), "Volcanic Potion Heroism/Bloodlust"), // Volcanic Potion is old Pot, New Pot: Potion of the Jade Serpent

Buff.CastBuff("Alter Time", ret => Unit.UseCooldowns() && Me.HasMyAura("Pyroblast!"), "Alter Time"), // it is bad. Alter Time Must use : Time Warp,Heroism + Potion + Pyroblast!
so Time Warp = Potion, only add Time Warp pls.

Gorthor · Oct 14, 2012

I have used clu on instances with my ele shaman and got the following feedback:

-does not detect aoe packs unless really close to them(and not even then sometimes) and continues to use single-target rotation
-does not use cooldowns on instance bosses, but does use them on other stuff(like combat dummy) and on odd places ( used fire elemental on some random single enemy in an instance )

Both of these issues appeared with shamwow and clu, maybe its a problem in honorbuddy or lazyraider?, please let me know if you dont have these issues on some other botbase.

Otherwise the ele shaman rotation is really good and fast, thanks a ton to the devs!

Gorthor · Oct 14, 2012

alxaw said:
Doesn't use cooldowns on instance bosses? ? I'll take a look later today if I got time. If you could provide a log for me that would be great thanks!

Thanks for the fast reply, i will run a few instances and take logs, i made a reinstall of hb now and running with raidbot, my bigger issues is right now that it doesnt use aoe on packs 3-5 at all, as if it doesnt detect that there are more monsters than just one or something.

I will post back soon with a log.

Edit: on my latest instance it used cooldowns, and used stormlash on boss in heroism like it should so it works most of the time at least.

Biggest issue right now is the aoe on bosses and trash, very low dps when i usually use chain when there are 3 mobs for a high amount of dps even with the CL glyph

Also can you set it so that fire elemental is only used on bosses with other cooldowns to maximize dps?

xsilverdicex · Oct 14, 2012

Mage is broken (fire & frost specs)

If i play by hand i average around 70k dps single target in frost and 65k in fire, CLU mage is lucky to sustain 40k

Could someone please make these two mage specs work like this: (i can pay if need be), the guide's below are exactly as i play (they are what i learnt from) and they are pretty spot on, if this could be replicated with CLU it would be awesome.

Sorry if this is not ment to be posted here? but i thought CLU was original designed for end game.

Fire:

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[/B][B]Single target rotation.[/B] [FONT=Lucida Grande]The rotation of a Fire Mage consists in the following priority list.[/FONT] [/COLOR] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48107"][COLOR=#000000]Heating Up[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs and Inferno Blast is off cooldown.[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast will always crit, transforming Heating Up into [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [/LIST] [COLOR=#000000][B]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [B]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your only real DPS cooldown. It creates a new DoT on your current target by combining the power of your existing DoTs ([IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_incinerate.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12654"][COLOR=#000000]Ignite[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]) on this target. It does not however take [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] into account. Always use Combustion after landing a big critical hit (or a series thereof) with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (doing so with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with a powerful trinket proc/on-use effect (the duration of which will be extended for 6 seconds) or when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is up (to have it up again 6 seconds later). Alter Time also works with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_enchantarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12043"][COLOR=#000000]Presence of Mind[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (if you chose it as a Tier 1 talent). Finally, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is a very small DPS cooldown, which you should use when the images can attack the boss for their entire duration (30 seconds).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000] [FONT=Lucida Grande]In most situations, you will want to continue performing your [/FONT][FONT=Lucida Grande]single-target [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]rotation on one enemy, choosing [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your tier 5 talent. [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will spread your DoTs to nearby targets. With [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], it will also spread [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]It is important to note that casting [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will always reset the cooldown of your [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], making it very easy to spread your Combustion DoT.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If there 5 or more enemies, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as a Tier 5 talent).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [B][B][B]3. Armors [/B][/B][/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_moltenarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30482"][COLOR=#000000]Molten Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]. [/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT]

Frost:

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[B][COLOR=#000000]1. Single Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]The rotation of a Frost Mage consists in the following priority list.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frozenorb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/84714"][COLOR=#000000]Frozen Orb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] until the debuff it applies reaches 3 stacks.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/33395"][COLOR=#000000]Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] from your Water Elemental every time it is available.[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]This will give you 1 charge of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (2 if it hits more than 1 enemy).[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_frostfirebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44614"][COLOR=#000000]Frostfire Bolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as soon as [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_brainfreeze.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44549"][COLOR=#000000]Brain Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when you have charges of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as a filler spell.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [B][COLOR=#000000]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]We discuss how other choices of talents affect your play style [/COLOR][URL="http://www.icy-veins.com/frost-mage-wow-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities#talent-section"][COLOR=#000000]further down the page[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#000000]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your main DPS cooldown. It should be used whenever possible and in conjunction with on-use trinkets and potions.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], so as to increase the duration of the effect to 26 seconds. Also, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] provides you with a small DPS boost and should therefore be used on cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Between 2 and 4 enemies, continue performing your single-target rotation, all the while using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown and applying [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent) on as many targets as you can (up to 3). Remember that you can use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2136"][COLOR=#000000]Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to spread Living Bomb, thanks to [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]. Also, [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/42745"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will cause [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to strike an additional target for 50% of the damage.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]For 5 enemies and more, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent). A very neat trick here is to use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/122"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Nova[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] right before Frost Bomb explodes (because of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostshock.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12982"][COLOR=#000000]Shatter[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]). You need to time Frost Nova well, so that the damage from other players in your group does not break it before Frost Bomb explodes.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][B][B][COLOR=#000000]3. Armors[/COLOR][/B][/B][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostarmor02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/7302"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

ShortRound · Oct 14, 2012

Icy Veins rotation?

I'd like to add to the above post that BLIZZARD is also a viable AOE ability, especially at range. However, it is a channelled, RANGED spell. We would need to cast it on an enemy pack location rather than our own position. If we're in melee range (and why would a mage be there unless stacking mechanics are involved?), use Arcane Explosion. If not, use Blizzard.

GraveWalker · Oct 14, 2012

Great work as always team, I'm back with the same old warrior problem, low low low FPS. Only happens on my warrior. gose from like 60 FPS to 4 and 5 when the CC starts. Hear is a new log GL and happy hunting.

Gorthor · Oct 14, 2012

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Update on the eleshaman, i am doing 10man mogu vault now and its working really well on bosses, so mainly only issue i have is chain lightning not being used on trash and packs, anyone else have this issue?

Edit: here are 2 logs from mogu'shan first boss run, it doesnt use cooldowns on either when starting the boss(had to use them myself through a macro), it did use them earlier but stopped for some reason, i restarted hb but still had the same issue, it did use ascendance after it came off cd in mid-fight though.

Condemned · Oct 14, 2012

xsilverdicex said:

Mage is broken (fire & frost specs)

If i play by hand i average around 70k dps single target in frost and 65k in fire, CLU mage is lucky to sustain 40k

Could someone please make these two mage specs work like this: (i can pay if need be), the guide's below are exactly as i play (they are what i learnt from) and they are pretty spot on, if this could be replicated with CLU it would be awesome.

Sorry if this is not ment to be posted here? but i thought CLU was original designed for end game.

Fire:

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[/B][B]Single target rotation.[/B] [FONT=Lucida Grande]The rotation of a Fire Mage consists in the following priority list.[/FONT] [/COLOR] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48107"][COLOR=#000000]Heating Up[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs and Inferno Blast is off cooldown.[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast will always crit, transforming Heating Up into [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [/LIST] [COLOR=#000000][B]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [B]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your only real DPS cooldown. It creates a new DoT on your current target by combining the power of your existing DoTs ([IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_incinerate.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12654"][COLOR=#000000]Ignite[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]) on this target. It does not however take [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] into account. Always use Combustion after landing a big critical hit (or a series thereof) with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (doing so with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with a powerful trinket proc/on-use effect (the duration of which will be extended for 6 seconds) or when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is up (to have it up again 6 seconds later). Alter Time also works with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_enchantarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12043"][COLOR=#000000]Presence of Mind[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (if you chose it as a Tier 1 talent). Finally, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is a very small DPS cooldown, which you should use when the images can attack the boss for their entire duration (30 seconds).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000] [FONT=Lucida Grande]In most situations, you will want to continue performing your [/FONT][FONT=Lucida Grande]single-target [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]rotation on one enemy, choosing [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your tier 5 talent. [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will spread your DoTs to nearby targets. With [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], it will also spread [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]It is important to note that casting [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will always reset the cooldown of your [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], making it very easy to spread your Combustion DoT.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If there 5 or more enemies, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as a Tier 5 talent).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000] [B][B][B]3. Armors [/B][/B][/B] [/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_moltenarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30482"][COLOR=#000000]Molten Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]. [/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT]

Frost:

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[B][COLOR=#000000]1. Single Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]The rotation of a Frost Mage consists in the following priority list.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frozenorb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/84714"][COLOR=#000000]Frozen Orb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] until the debuff it applies reaches 3 stacks.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/33395"][COLOR=#000000]Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] from your Water Elemental every time it is available.[/COLOR] [LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]This will give you 1 charge of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (2 if it hits more than 1 enemy).[/COLOR] [/LIST] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_frostfirebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44614"][COLOR=#000000]Frostfire Bolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as soon as [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_brainfreeze.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44549"][COLOR=#000000]Brain Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when you have charges of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR] [*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as a filler spell.[/COLOR] [/LIST] [B][COLOR=#000000]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]We discuss how other choices of talents affect your play style [/COLOR][URL="http://www.icy-veins.com/frost-mage-wow-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities#talent-section"][COLOR=#000000]further down the page[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#000000]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your main DPS cooldown. It should be used whenever possible and in conjunction with on-use trinkets and potions.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], so as to increase the duration of the effect to 26 seconds. Also, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] provides you with a small DPS boost and should therefore be used on cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Between 2 and 4 enemies, continue performing your single-target rotation, all the while using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown and applying [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent) on as many targets as you can (up to 3). Remember that you can use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2136"][COLOR=#000000]Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to spread Living Bomb, thanks to [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]. Also, [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/42745"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will cause [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to strike an additional target for 50% of the damage.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]For 5 enemies and more, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent). A very neat trick here is to use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/122"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Nova[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] right before Frost Bomb explodes (because of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostshock.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12982"][COLOR=#000000]Shatter[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]). You need to time Frost Nova well, so that the damage from other players in your group does not break it before Frost Bomb explodes.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [B][B][B][COLOR=#000000]3. Armors[/COLOR][/B][/B][/B] [COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostarmor02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/7302"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]

The single target fire mage rotation is currently set to operate as follows:

1. Cast Alter Time if it is off cooldown and you have pyroblast proc.
2. Cast tier 5 talent
3. Cast pyroblast if you have pyroblast proc
4. Cast inferno blast if you have heating up proc
5. Cast fireball as a filler
6. Cast inferno blast or scorch if moving

The fire rotation will also appropriately buff your character and cast rune of power whenever the character does not have the buff and it is not on cooldown.

The single target frost works as follows:

1. Cast frozen orb
2. Cast tier 5 talent
3. Cast mirror image
4. Cast icy veins
5. Cast alter time if player has brain freeze and fingers of frost
6. Cast ice lance if player has fingers of frost
7. Cast frostfire bolt if player has brain freeze
8. Cast frost bolt as filler

*Water elemental freeze will need to be cast by the player via a stopcasting macro.

If you feel these rotations could be optimized feel free to copy and paste the above into a reply and mark it up as you see fit and we will do what we can to test those changes.

In response to your dps issues - could you please take a minute to answer the following? It will help me further investigate your issues.

What is your item level?
Is your gear properly gemmed, enchanted and otherwise optimized?
Which bot base are you using?

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