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CLU (Codified Likeness Utility) - (Pt. 2)

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xsilverdicex said:
Mage is broken (fire & frost specs)

If i play by hand i average around 70k dps single target in frost and 65k in fire, CLU mage is lucky to sustain 40k

Could someone please make these two mage specs work like this: (i can pay if need be), the guide's below are exactly as i play (they are what i learnt from) and they are pretty spot on, if this could be replicated with CLU it would be awesome.

Sorry if this is not ment to be posted here? but i thought CLU was original designed for end game.

Fire:
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[/B][B]Single target rotation.[/B]
[FONT=Lucida Grande]The rotation of a Fire Mage consists in the following priority list.[/FONT]
[/COLOR]
[LIST=1]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR]
[LIST]
[*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]apply [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR]
[/LIST]

[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48107"][COLOR=#000000]Heating Up[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs and Inferno Blast is off cooldown.[/COLOR]
[LIST]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast will always crit, transforming Heating Up into [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR]
[/LIST]

[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR]
[/LIST]
[COLOR=#000000][B]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/B]

[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[B]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/B]

[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your only real DPS cooldown. It creates a new DoT on your current target by combining the power of your existing DoTs ([IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_incinerate.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12654"][COLOR=#000000]Ignite[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]) on this target. It does not however take [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] into account. Always use Combustion after landing a big critical hit (or a series thereof) with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11366"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (doing so with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_flamebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/133"][COLOR=#000000]Fireball[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with a powerful trinket proc/on-use effect (the duration of which will be extended for 6 seconds) or when [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_hotstreak.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/48108"][COLOR=#000000]Pyroblast![/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is up (to have it up again 6 seconds later). Alter Time also works with [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_enchantarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12043"][COLOR=#000000]Presence of Mind[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (if you chose it as a Tier 1 talent). Finally, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is a very small DPS cooldown, which you should use when the images can attack the boss for their entire duration (30 seconds).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=#000000]

[FONT=Lucida Grande]In most situations, you will want to continue performing your [/FONT][FONT=Lucida Grande]single-target [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]rotation on one enemy, choosing [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your tier 5 talent. [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will spread your DoTs to nearby targets. With [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], it will also spread [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]It is important to note that casting [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_sealoffire.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/11129"][COLOR=#000000]Combustion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will always reset the cooldown of your [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_infernoblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108853"][COLOR=#000000]Inferno Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], making it very easy to spread your Combustion DoT.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If there 5 or more enemies, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as a Tier 5 talent).[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000]
[B][B][B]3. Armors
[/B][/B][/B]

[/COLOR][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_moltenarmor.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30482"][COLOR=#000000]Molten Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].

[/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT]


Frost:
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[B][COLOR=#000000]1. Single Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]The rotation of a Frost Mage consists in the following priority list.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

[LIST=1]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Depending on your choice of Tier 5 talent:[/COLOR]
[LIST]
[*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_nethertempest.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114923"][COLOR=#000000]Nether Tempest[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and always refresh it right before the last tick;[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]apply [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] and refresh it right before or right after the last tick (the expiring Living Bomb will explode in both cases);[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR]
[/LIST]

[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frozenorb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/84714"][COLOR=#000000]Frozen Orb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown.[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] until the debuff it applies reaches 3 stacks.[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/33395"][COLOR=#000000]Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] from your Water Elemental every time it is available.[/COLOR]
[LIST]
[*][COLOR=#000000]This will give you 1 charge of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (2 if it hits more than 1 enemy).[/COLOR]
[/LIST]

[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_frostfirebolt.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44614"][COLOR=#000000]Frostfire Bolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as soon as [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_brainfreeze.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44549"][COLOR=#000000]Brain Freeze[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] procs.[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] when you have charges of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_wintersgrasp.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112965"][COLOR=#000000]Fingers of Frost[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR]
[*][COLOR=#000000]Cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostbolt02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116"][COLOR=#000000]Frostbolt[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as a filler spell.[/COLOR]
[/LIST]
[B][COLOR=#000000]1.1. Tier 6 Talent[/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_arcane_arcane03.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/114003"][COLOR=#000000]Invocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then cast [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_purge.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12051"][COLOR=#000000]Evocation[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] before the pull and, after that, every time the +25% increased damage buff it gives is about to expire.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_runeofpower.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/116011"][COLOR=#000000]Rune of Power[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then make sure that your Rune of Power is always active and that you stand in it at all times.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]If you chose [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_shadow_detectlesserinvisibility.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1463"][COLOR=#000000]Incanter's Ward[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] as your Tier 6 talent, then use it every time it comes off cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]We discuss how other choices of talents affect your play style [/COLOR][URL="http://www.icy-veins.com/frost-mage-wow-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities#talent-section"][COLOR=#000000]further down the page[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=#000000]1.2. Cooldown Usage[/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is your main DPS cooldown. It should be used whenever possible and in conjunction with on-use trinkets and potions.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_altertime.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/108978"][COLOR=#000000]Alter Time[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] returns you to your current location, health, mana, buffs, and debuffs when you cast it a second time or after 6 seconds. We advise you to always use it in conjunction with [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_coldhearted.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12472"][COLOR=#000000]Icy Veins[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], so as to increase the duration of the effect to 26 seconds. Also, you can use it to bypass encounter mechanics, for example before receiving a large amount of damage or a dangerous debuff.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_magic_lesserinvisibilty.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/55342"][COLOR=#000000]Mirror Image[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] provides you with a small DPS boost and should therefore be used on cooldown.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[B][COLOR=#000000]2. Multiple Target Rotation[/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Between 2 and 4 enemies, continue performing your single-target rotation, all the while using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] on cooldown and applying [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent) on as many targets as you can (up to 3). Remember that you can use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_fireball.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2136"][COLOR=#000000]Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to spread Living Bomb, thanks to [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]. Also, [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/42745"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] will cause [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostblast.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/30455"][COLOR=#000000]Ice Lance[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] to strike an additional target for 50% of the damage.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]Note that using [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] instead of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_ability_mage_livingbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/44457"][COLOR=#000000]Living Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] is also viable. It performs nearly as well and has the advantage of freeing up a major glyph slot (you will not need [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_inv_glyph_majormage.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/items/63539"][COLOR=#000000]Glyph of Fire Blast[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]).[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][COLOR=#000000]For 5 enemies and more, use a combination of [IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_fire_selfdestruct.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/2120"][COLOR=#000000]Flamestrike[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_nature_wispsplode.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/1449"][COLOR=#000000]Arcane Explosion[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000], and [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_mage_frostbomb.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/112948"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Bomb[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] (which you need to choose as your Tier 5 talent). A very neat trick here is to use [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostnova.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/122"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Nova[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000] right before Frost Bomb explodes (because of [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostshock.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/12982"][COLOR=#000000]Shatter[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000]). You need to time Frost Nova well, so that the damage from other players in your group does not break it before Frost Bomb explodes.[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
[B][B][B][COLOR=#000000]3. Armors[/COLOR][/B][/B][/B]
[COLOR=#DCDCDC][FONT=Lucida Grande][B][B][COLOR=#000000]Your only viable choice of armor is [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][IMG]http://www.icy-veins.com/images/wow_icon_spell_frost_frostarmor02.jpg[/IMG] [/COLOR][URL="http://www.wowdb.com/spells/7302"][COLOR=#000000]Frost Armor[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=#000000].[/COLOR][/B][/B][/FONT][/COLOR]
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I have the same problem today...

Raid 25, 2 magues in my raid about me. They 70k-65 all time in all boss, me only 40-45k whit bot.

What is your item level? 470
Is your gear properly gemmed, enchanted and otherwise optimized? Yes all
Which bot base are you using? CLU + Lazyraider

Other mages in my guild are 468 frost and 469 fire and they have too more dps that me :(

Please, any can say me how i need configre CLU mage fire to have same damage?
 
Fire Mage

463 ilvl properly gemed 25man enchanted and reforged .

only did around 42k dps as fire on 4 kings

if you wanna see wol or my armoury just pm me i'll be glad 2 help test any time i can
 

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froggystyle said:
Fire Mage

463 ilvl properly gemed 25man enchanted and reforged .

only did around 42k dps as fire on 4 kings

if you wanna see wol or my armoury just pm me i'll be glad 2 help test any time i can
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Ok, all mage fire have the same problem, very low damage, whit high gear( all people have more that 460), CLU mage fire need rework
 
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I will look into the issues you guys are experiencing. Some skills may be out of order or there may be a more optimal configuration out there. If i have additional questions I will post them here.


I ran 5 tests with 2 different bot bases for 4 million damage each on the level 93 training dummy. I will also test each in an LFR scenario and report back but I wanted to at least get some data out there.

Character Info:

Item Level: 467
Spec: Fire
Gear Optimized: Gemmed and enchanted according to askmrrobot.com
Buffs: Int Flask & +275 Int Food


Bot Base 1:

Lazy Raider @30FPS

Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
Average DPS: 35,388
Average Missed Pyro Procs: 1.8

Bot Base 2:

Tyrael @ 30FPS

Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
Average DPS: 48,452
Average Missed Pyro Procs: 0.4

I'll need to get some more information but it may have something to do with LazyRaider and CLU. Stay tuned for more and please take this with a grain of salt. Five tests each could still be pretty heavily skewed by RNG.
 
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Condemned said:
I will look into the issues you guys are experiencing. Some skills may be out of order or there may be a more optimal configuration out there. If i have additional questions I will post them here.


I ran 5 tests with 2 different bot bases for 4 million damage each on the level 93 training dummy. I will also test each in an LFR scenario and report back but I wanted to at least get some data out there.

Character Info:

Item Level: 467
Spec: Fire
Gear Optimized: Gemmed and enchanted according to askmrrobot.com
Buffs: Int Flask & +275 Int Food


Bot Base 1:

Lazy Raider @30FPS

Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
Average DPS: 35,388
Average Missed Pyro Procs: 1.8

Bot Base 2:

Tyrael @ 30FPS

Total Damage Per Session: 4.00 Million
Average DPS: 48,452
Average Missed Pyro Procs: 0.4

I'll need to get some more information but it may have something to do with LazyRaider and CLU. Stay tuned for more and please take this with a grain of salt. Five tests each could still be pretty heavily skewed by RNG.
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Very low damage, in LFR whit my mage and play whiout bot i have 70-75k always top 1 or 2
 
The dummys are not a raid environment. However they do provide equal ground for everyone to test on with self buffs. Dps will be quite low because of this.
 
Clubwar said:
What Bot is Tyrael bot?? I cant find in forum :(
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It's still in testing stages I'm guessing.

I've been using it a few times lately, my suggestion though is to wait upon release if it'll be released.

Otherwise , completely disregard everything u know about it.
 
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Any news on the firemage fix?

The basic priority that i follow to get 70k+ dps is:

on pull:
1.) Cast Nether Tempest (ALWAYS refresh this right before it's last tick)
2.) Cast Living Bomb (keep 100% uptime refreshing as it drops or directly before last tick)
3.) Cast Frost Bomb Oon Cooldown!
4.) Cast Pyroblast only when Pyroblast! procs.
5.) Cast Inferno Blast when Heating Up procs (this needs to be 100% you can not miss this! huge dps loss if you do.)
6.) Finally with nothing else to do Fireball is used as your filler move. (spam move? lol)

If you can make the bot do this, it will pawn. Currently watching mine with bot, it miss's Heating Up proc's, and sometime's continue's to cast 3 or more fireball's while it has a Pyroblast! proc. This could be the problem.

Extra:
Combustion may be a little harder to code it. ( i prefer to use this myself) i think though the best way for the bot would be cast directly after a Pyroblast crit. (not sure if CLU can detect Crit's?)
Mirror Image Best way for bot would be on Cooldown on boss's.

AOE:

1.)is simple. Cast Living Bomb and then spread it to nearby mobs using Inferno Blast Should also be using Glyph of Fire Blast.

2.) If it is a huge amount of mobs 5+ Flamestrike and Arcane Explosion spam. Ofcourse this require's the user to stand in the mobs. Myabe you could do a check with the CC for aoe "If 5+ mobs and in Arcane Explosion range use AOE option 2.) If not in range use option 1 still.
 
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This is correct but also it uses alter time incorrectly when it does use it better off for the player to use himself along with combustion i can time myself to get 3 hotstreack procs off in a chain using my alter time myself leaving a 60+ignite stack to combust on if you implement it to use those please put something in to disable
xsilverdicex said:
Any news on the firemage fix?

The basic priority that i follow to get 70k+ dps is:

on pull:
1.) Cast Nether Tempest (ALWAYS refresh this right before it's last tick)
2.) Cast Living Bomb (keep 100% uptime refreshing as it drops or directly before last tick)
3.) Cast Frost Bomb On Cooldown!
4.) Cast Pyroblast only when Pyroblast! procs.
5.) Cast Inferno Blast when Heating Up procs (this needs to be 100% you can not miss this! huge dps loss if you do.)
6.) Finally with nothing else to do Fireball is used as your filler move. (spam move? lol)

If you can make the bot do this, it will pawn. Currently watching mine with bot, it miss's Heating Up proc's, and sometime's continue's to cast 3 or more fireball's while it has a Pyroblast! proc. This could be the problem.

Extra:
Combustion may be a little harder to code it. ( i prefer to use this myself) i think though the best way for the bot would be cast directly after a Pyroblast crit. (not sure if CLU can detect Crit's?)
Mirror Image Best way for bot would be on Cooldown on boss's.

AOE:

1.)is simple. Cast Living Bomb and then spread it to nearby mobs using Inferno Blast Should also be using Glyph of Fire Blast.

2.) If it is a huge amount of mobs 5+ Flamestrike and Arcane Explosion spam. Ofcourse this require's the user to stand in the mobs. Myabe you could do a check with the CC for aoe "If 5+ mobs and in Arcane Explosion range use AOE option 2.) If not in range use option 1 still.
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This is correct but also it uses alter time incorrectly when it does use it better off for the player to use himself along with combustion i can time myself to get 3 hotstreack procs off in a chain using my alter time myself leaving a 60+ignite stack to combust on if you implement it to use those please put something in to disable
xsilverdicex said:
Any news on the firemage fix?

The basic priority that i follow to get 70k+ dps is:

on pull:
1.) Cast Nether Tempest (ALWAYS refresh this right before it's last tick)
2.) Cast Living Bomb (keep 100% uptime refreshing as it drops or directly before last tick)
3.) Cast Frost Bomb On Cooldown!
4.) Cast Pyroblast only when Pyroblast! procs.
5.) Cast Inferno Blast when Heating Up procs (this needs to be 100% you can not miss this! huge dps loss if you do.)
6.) Finally with nothing else to do Fireball is used as your filler move. (spam move? lol)

If you can make the bot do this, it will pawn. Currently watching mine with bot, it miss's Heating Up proc's, and sometime's continue's to cast 3 or more fireball's while it has a Pyroblast! proc. This could be the problem.

Extra:
Combustion may be a little harder to code it. ( i prefer to use this myself) i think though the best way for the bot would be cast directly after a Pyroblast crit. (not sure if CLU can detect Crit's?)
Mirror Image Best way for bot would be on Cooldown on boss's.

AOE:

1.)is simple. Cast Living Bomb and then spread it to nearby mobs using Inferno Blast Should also be using Glyph of Fire Blast.

2.) If it is a huge amount of mobs 5+ Flamestrike and Arcane Explosion spam. Ofcourse this require's the user to stand in the mobs. Myabe you could do a check with the CC for aoe "If 5+ mobs and in Arcane Explosion range use AOE option 2.) If not in range use option 1 still.
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xsilverdicex said:
Any news on the firemage fix?

The basic priority that i follow to get 70k+ dps is:

on pull:
1.) Cast Nether Tempest (ALWAYS refresh this right before it's last tick)
2.) Cast Living Bomb (keep 100% uptime refreshing as it drops or directly before last tick)
3.) Cast Frost Bomb Oon Cooldown!
4.) Cast Pyroblast only when Pyroblast! procs.
5.) Cast Inferno Blast when Heating Up procs (this needs to be 100% you can not miss this! huge dps loss if you do.)
6.) Finally with nothing else to do Fireball is used as your filler move. (spam move? lol)

If you can make the bot do this, it will pawn. Currently watching mine with bot, it miss's Heating Up proc's, and sometime's continue's to cast 3 or more fireball's while it has a Pyroblast! proc. This could be the problem.

Extra:
Combustion may be a little harder to code it. ( i prefer to use this myself) i think though the best way for the bot would be cast directly after a Pyroblast crit. (not sure if CLU can detect Crit's?)
Mirror Image Best way for bot would be on Cooldown on boss's.

AOE:

1.)is simple. Cast Living Bomb and then spread it to nearby mobs using Inferno Blast Should also be using Glyph of Fire Blast.

2.) If it is a huge amount of mobs 5+ Flamestrike and Arcane Explosion spam. Ofcourse this require's the user to stand in the mobs. Myabe you could do a check with the CC for aoe "If 5+ mobs and in Arcane Explosion range use AOE option 2.) If not in range use option 1 still.
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What you are asking for is basically what the rotation has been written to do. I would take a guess that it may take some optimizing in either the rotation, the bot bases or in hb itself in order to achieve flawless execution. I have several /stopcasting macros that I will use to ensure that any pyroblast procs that are not being used i can use by hand. Similar macros are in place for mirror image, combustion etc. I know everyone really wants the rotation to do all of the work but if you want to crush the meters, it looks like you are going to have to help it out a bit.
 
vibrator said:
This is correct but also it uses alter time incorrectly when it does use it better off for the player to use himself along with combustion i can time myself to get 3 hotstreack procs off in a chain using my alter time myself leaving a 60+ignite stack to combust on if you implement it to use those please put something in to disable
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This Fire.cs file has Alter Time commented out and will not use it. You can overwrite your existing Fire.cs file inside your routines\clu\clu\classes\mage\ folder and keep in mind any svn updates will overwrite it.

View attachment Fire.cs
 
Which cc's have you used that are achieving your desired results? I can take a look at that code and attempt to apply it to the fire mage rotation in clu.
 
Guys, thanks for all the input on the mage.. I'm not ignoring you, I have been unwell the last few days and have a heap of work to catch up on.. don't expect anything for the next few days from me until I can catch up on things in RL.

Also...I haven't even had time to get one of my toons to 90 yet...this new job is taking up allot of my time.

wulf.
 
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