Banwave 22-11-2016 Discussion

[sp3sh]

[video=youtube;hABj_mrP-no]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABj_mrP-no#t=40m20s[/video]Crazy information from defcon

 

[pirre1234]

botted 100-108 with disabled tripwire and no ban yet, 48hours going. half level manual play, already bored..

 

[theodds]

botted 100-108 with disabled tripwire and no ban yet, 48hours going. half level manual play, already bored..

I did the same thing, but with trip wire still active just recently. It will take about 4-5 days but you will get banned. 99.99% guaranteed

 

[eyesopen]

Desperate times call for desperate measures, blizzard really went outside the box this time. They have crisis of their own to battle with, look at the return of everything they removed, the stage of the game does not look good, sure fancy shit here and there, but seems customers dropping like flies. Nonetheless its gonna be fun to watch blizzard drama unfolding. Blizzard milking botters hard this time.

you are wrong about all except that blizzard milking botters hard this time. Customers are mass playing again, game is interesting again, may be they remove some things but they add a lot, wow is top game on twich again, it's a fact legion is a great success for blizzard

 

[Xarian]

[video=youtube;hABj_mrP-no]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABj_mrP-no#t=40m20s[/video]Crazy information from defcon

This is like, 6 years old. And in fact, the presentation contains pretty much no info

 

[Gentoo]

Im sorry but there have been so many detections now with HB in the past few years it seems like every time now the response is we found out what was causing it this time we are totally sure now. Go give blizzard some more money...... then a while later bam another wave oh we have it figured out this time for sure! we are totally serious you can trust us this time.

It changes doofuss

 

[blackjice]

Am i dreaming or you are making a comparison between Ferrari's staff recruitment, and Fiat? They are not fighting in the same level, but still, they be able to provide us such a stable support for so many years, be respectfull at the minimum. This is getting me sick, i was banned too but i'm not mad on HB, i'm mad on Blizzard.

You all always remember and will remember the day you can't log on, but do you all remember the countless hours when HB was launched? I think this 3 last years the bot played more than myself. And yeah, after total of 5 years blizzard catch up.

Sometimes you guys should think about the works Bossland is doing. They aren't earning as much as Blizzard's employee, they aren't stable as Blizzard's employee, they doesn't have the staff of Blizzard's Employee, They have family, works, and when they could just send all that mess away and the half part of the community trashtalking, they just keep fighting against blizzard.

Am i the only guy fucking thinking that they are amazing just by the fact they go face legal judgement against blizzard? Physically? Just for this they earned all my respect, its the proof of their investissement.

If i was at their place, its has been long times, i ban you all irrespectfull kids.

ya im with you i waited becasue they already said it is not stable yet and just gave you the option to turn off tripwire for the gold sellers they are doing the best they can im sure it take time to fig out whats going on everyone wants everything now...well i waited and ill still keep waiting till it back up stable again till then ill keep checking the forums every day...

these guys work hard for the customer and poeple knew the risk after nov 9th banwave....they even said dont bot unless you want to be banned anyhow i think they fig it out now so give them the time they need to get this back up and runnning stable....i know i will be waiting then ill be back at it again...


thanks for everthing honorbuddy and all the profile makers that put all that time in...

 

[venndann]

Any of us, even an old fart like me, could detect a bot on one account, simply by reviewing the keystrokes. Dead easy. The bot does things a real player would never do. One or two events like that and you'd be suspicious. Multiple events and the bot is exposed for what it is. (I won't post examples here; if you really need one, pm me.)

What Blizz needs to be able to do is survey hundreds of thousands of accounts at once to detect bot-like behavior. That's not rocket science, either, it just takes some time and coding to set up so computers can do what they do very well, which is analyze masses of data. As another poster said, it's a cat-and-mouse game. We're the poor mice with limited resources; Blizz is the fat cat with all the time, money and resources it needs. It just has to sit at the mouse hole and wait for us to poke our heads through. At some point, we will all be caught.

HB provides the opportunity to make the inevitable grind somewhat enjoyable. It automates the boring stuff, handles the frustrating stuff, and adds a sense of excitement to what has become a predictable and repetitive game. I got my money's worth many times over.

 

[WinterWonder]

So it should not be used

Made my day

 

[Gucciballer]

To me this seems like a grudge match between blizzard and bossland considering the law suits involved, the big guy is trying to shut down the little guy but repeatedly banning HB Customers, even at a great subscriber hit to Blizzard, if you think for a second that Blizzard actually want to stop bots your wrong they only want the appearance of stopping bot, Blizzard is a company and they care about profit margins more than if some nerd is automating there content, Blizzard could easily have some one check profiles that a majority of HB users, use and in a honeypot node to a quest and consistently ban everyone, bottom line is if they really wanted to they can ban you.

 

[botster]

once I saw wow was back on special for 4.99 I knew it was a matter of time before some bans hit, with all the after bans from the wave 10 days ago I knew it wasn't over, this really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone/ I bought 50 or so wows at 4.99 and plan to sit on em for a while....

 

[hektik02]

I think venndann makes a GREAT POINT. It doesn't take much to find out a user is not playing like a human. Like, wow32, click to move, long hours, following known botting paths, playing rotations without every missing a hiccup, etc. Theirs a new thing in Battlefield 4 for PC called fairfight. It basically does all those things I listed. If it shows you making 3 headshots without missing from halfway across the maps within 5 seconds. Then the bot will auto ban you because it knows, that the chance of a human doing that is near impossible. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard made a program similar to that and they are now doing blanket wave bans. They probably ban anyone who seems like a non human player, and only when someone requests an appeal will it be looked at more in depth to make a decision if they will unban you or not.

HB used to be a constant chess match with eachother. Now, I think they have a new way to detect and the chess match is now over. Something like a "fairfight" program can not be beat. It literally killed all the hacking in BF4 alone. Theirs no 1-2 weeks, its instant ban. I think Blizzard will now ban weekly and they now say "check mate" for all cheaters and cheating programs out there.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. Something like this is feasible since their has never been ban waves so close together. They have done something different then ever before to catch cheating.

 

[reconnect]

I think venndann makes a GREAT POINT. It doesn't take much to find out a user is not playing like a human. Like, wow32, click to move, long hours, following known botting paths, playing rotations without every missing a hiccup, etc. Theirs a new thing in Battlefield 4 for PC called fairfight. It basically does all those things I listed. If it shows you making 3 headshots without missing from halfway across the maps within 5 seconds. Then the bot will auto ban you because it knows, that the chance of a human doing that is near impossible. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard made a program similar to that and they are now doing blanket wave bans. They probably ban anyone who seems like a non human player, and only when someone requests an appeal will it be looked at more in depth to make a decision if they will unban you or not.

HB used to be a constant chess match with eachother. Now, I think they have a new way to detect and the chess match is now over. Something like a "fairfight" program can not be beat. It literally killed all the hacking in BF4 alone. Theirs no 1-2 weeks, its instant ban. I think Blizzard will now ban weekly and they now say "check mate" for all cheaters and cheating programs out there.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION. Something like this is feasible since their has never been ban waves so close together. They have done something different then ever before to catch cheating.

No they won't.

Banning a couple times per year is better for their wallet. And they know it.

 

[todako]

I bet you voted for Trump, jajajajaja.

 

[todako]

Excuse my english, is not first language; but conspiring can make a lot of conclusions, the most twisted one is that Bizzard saw that they coaybe till now that´s anothermack em (huldnt legally beat HB or theory that they have a better hacker now), but I would bribe HB staff, ask em how many accounts they have today?, give em the money for lifetime suscriptions plus a little more, Blizz will recover the money with all the new accounts botters will buy while they accept the truth, and blizz will be the hero because they keep their game "safe" (if that was the real intention years ago they could ban people like they did with glidder, thats looking at behavior wich can be spotted by a fellow botter inmediatelly).

So I think theres something really fishy right now going on. I still trust in HB team but not like before. or maybe HB team got tired, shame because ideals should move this world not money, but I get it, if a Trillion dollar company knocks on my door, offers me tons of money, and I´m in an eternal legal battle with them (with all their resources),
I´ll, lets not say give up but "retire" after all the mistake is giving lifetime keys.

To the HB team, you alredy have your ppl, start charging us without banwaves and giving our ip, macs, PCs and all kind of information to blizz, dont do it gradually.

and CEO Blizz is a genious.

 

[todako]

Ditto they should take HB down till they know whats going on, unless they really know whats going on and we users are fucked.

 

[todako]

You all holding boss lands hands while they rip off millions with false security are stupid. Who wins in these banned waves I'd say both hb and blizzard they get rich while all users get fucked. Back to playing by hand you all would be dumb to keep feeding them

clap clap clap

 

[todako]

i just saw that HB is not the only one who have problems in this November, people who using wrobot,noobbot also banned. that means that blizz need to sell more games and earn money it's cristmas time near

Black Friday is coming bitches!!!!

 

[todako]

I don´t get it, I use my bot only to lvl and to be able to raid, I dont farm trillions I don´t take that much advantage, I just do it to keep up. why? beacause when I started playing this game I had time and I love it, now 12 years later sadly I grew up and have to work, I dont have to enough time to keep up with guilds and endgame unless I bot, I bot only one account, and i think is a Blizzard lost, they should take ban waves with ppl who abuse the bot and damage the aconomy of the game for real (wich is a lie cause economy of the game has been played for more than 5 years with bots), fishy fishy, but bot times are over for now, and i fucking broke mu right hand!.

 

[danjo]

Black Friday is coming bitches!!!!

Already here. Arrived yesterday regarding the sales. WoW is 75% off. No sale on legion though

Hopefully a Christmas Sale for Legion