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Banwave 10-11-2016 Discussion

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The point is - and this is for all who are asking:

I don't think that getting reported for cheating by another player is more dangerous nowadays.
Blizzard does know almost instantly that you are using 3rd party software and it's only a matter of time when you receive the email containing your 6 month ban.

I have a battle net account containing four WoW accounts.
All of them are banned (2 for 6 months, 2 perma)
The youngest one got banned 12 hours after creating it and I only used Enyo without movement / facing. Just plain routine.

They know exactly what you are doing and you are instantly on the ban list the moment you inject / start a bot or another 3rd party software.

In my opinion, the only way we can try to cheat or bot without a 100% guarantee of ban is to completely rethink everything about botting.
The methods / codes and everything Bossland or any other 3rd party software is using at the moment is ancient old and a multi billion dollar company like Blizzard just knows
what we are doing.

Maybe Legion Bot is doing something very crazy so that blizzard is fooled for a few months but I cannot believe it.
We will see.

I think we reached the grand finale. It's over - we need to find a new show
 
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LordFuchs said:
The point is - and this is for all who are asking:

I don't think that getting reported for cheating by another player is more dangerous nowadays.
Blizzard does know almost instantly that you are using 3rd party software and it's only a matter of time when you receive the email containing your 6 month ban.

I have a battle net account containing four WoW accounts.
All of them are banned (2 for 6 months, 2 perma)
The youngest one got banned 12 hours after creating it and I only used Enyo without movement / facing. Just plain routine.

They know exactly what you are doing and you are instantly on the ban list the moment you inject / start a bot or another 3rd party software.

In my opinion, the only way we can try to cheat or bot without a 100% guarantee of ban is to completely rethink everything about botting.
The methods / codes and everything Bossland or any other 3rd party software is using at the moment is ancient old and a multi billion dollar company like Blizzard just knows
what we are doing.

Maybe Legion Bot is doing something very crazy so that blizzard is fooled for a few months but I cannot believe it.
We will see.

I think we reached the grand finale. It's over - we need to find a new show

It's like we are using
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When you create a new account that is banned in 12 hours, after a wave of bans?
 
@Dominowood:

no, it wasn't during a huge banwave.
I just think that they've monitored my battle net account as there were three other wow accounts with bans.

I'm pretty sure that if I would create another wow account on that same battle net account, it will again get banned almost instantly.
 
LordFuchs said:
@Dominowood:

no, it wasn't during a huge banwave.
I just think that they've monitored my battle net account as there were three other wow accounts with bans.

I'm pretty sure that if I would create another wow account on that same battle net account, it will again get banned almost instantly.
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and when was that?
 
Requirements to use HB :

1. WoW 32-bit client
2. WoW in window mode

Nowadays 32-bits only PC's are hard to find, and if they exists it will be very hard to play WoW with an good FPS and certanly if you have to play it in window mode. Windows XP is history and HB will not run anymore on Windows XP just for the reason that HB uses dotnet 4.6.1 and you can never use that on XP.

Blizzard only have to check if your computer meets the requirements to play WoW with HB. That brings down alot of accounts, what makes it easier to track down the left overs.

I have 1 account that I'm using for fishing only. That account runs under Linux and WoW is not running in windows mode. I use an bash fisherbot and that account now exists for several years.
 
Pasterke said:
Requirements to use HB :

1. WoW 32-bit client
2. WoW in window mode

Nowadays 32-bits only PC's are hard to find, and if they exists it will be very hard to play WoW with an good FPS and certanly if you have to play it in window mode. Windows XP is history and HB will not run anymore on Windows XP just for the reason that HB uses dotnet 4.6.1 and you can never use that on XP.

Blizzard only have to check if your computer meets the requirements to play WoW with HB. That brings down alot of accounts, what makes it easier to track down the left overs.

I have 1 account that I'm using for fishing only. That account runs under Linux and WoW is not running in windows mode. I use an bash fisherbot and that account now exists for several years.
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It is different as "starting" the program as 32 bits which you can simply set with the settings but that does not fool your computer into it only the program :)
There are some modules to run most of your processes on 32 bits making it think your PC is running on 32 bits but it is most likely not worth the effort to attempt and invest time into.

Another option is to just install Windows 32 bits... which will restrict your usage of 64 bits software though.
 
Pasterke said:
Requirements to use HB :

1. WoW 32-bit client
2. WoW in window mode

Nowadays 32-bits only PC's are hard to find, and if they exists it will be very hard to play WoW with an good FPS and certanly if you have to play it in window mode. Windows XP is history and HB will not run anymore on Windows XP just for the reason that HB uses dotnet 4.6.1 and you can never use that on XP.

Blizzard only have to check if your computer meets the requirements to play WoW with HB. That brings down alot of accounts, what makes it easier to track down the left overs.

I have 1 account that I'm using for fishing only. That account runs under Linux and WoW is not running in windows mode. I use an bash fisherbot and that account now exists for several years.
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This is the first thing. An other thing is to get the position of each action button ingame. It's easy in c# to get the actual position of the Mouse and catch each key of Keyboard. It is really easy. There must be something wrong, if your char makes a action without a catched key sending or without a catched mouse event. Or there is no catched Key sending and the mouse is at the wrong position... ;) Macro-Keyboards will send key-hits too. So it is easy to decide between real player and program..... Do you can confirm this Pasterke
 
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donkeyboy said:
yea i lost my main and never botted on it they ban IP
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Possibly you had both accounts running on the pc even though you botted with the other? they detect the software they will most likely ban both its best to have a 2nd pc for your 2nd account to bot with
 
OK, So people got banned.

People also disagree with whether or not full attention is given to HB being detected( I disagree, I believe a lot of attention is given. There is just little information that we can be given that would not alert blizzard to the changes. An attempt to catch the new anti-detection methods could be Blizzard's response. But I understand the reason people would feel this way)

So now that we all are on the same page. What can people do after the banwave to get started back up? Let's talk solutions. Some people here have never been banned.

The use of VPNs, Virtual Machines, 2nd Computers. What methods should people use to make sure their new account is not flagged as suspicious. Do you need a fresh windows install and also a new WOW install? Or can you use the same one? Lets help the new people out( Or people who have never experienced a ban) by giving our experience. This is an unknown area which can be scary. Helping people move forward is the best solution to a bad situation in my opinion :)
 
An Addition to my theory: I noticed, the view has frozen the last time. It watched most of the time to the last npc, which i had attacked. Could it be, that blizz has placed a query for this?
 
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