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[OFFICIAL][Patch 5.0.4] Honorbuddy will be offline for a week (or more)

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I think Bossland/HB should release a version with no guarantees for those guys who can't wait, where they can start boting right away when the realms go live, then get caught/banned for a new Warden and then UNDERSTAND why we have to wait.
 
Bioern said:
Ok guys complaining.
Im a member of this community for a long time now and I can tell you the following.
We had these downtimes after every bigger patch and pirox the only bot comparable to HB in the last years had those too. If Blizzard changes 1 line of code it could mean that the Hb team has to change 100 to get along with that change.
Quting other bots like Apollo did just before me is just nonsense. Most other bots rely on memoryreadying and things like that. Hb is a bot that relys on memoryreading and also on injecting. I am not an expert in these things but to compare that: Memoryreading is like opening a book and reading whats written in it. Even if the author changes the chapters you simply have to look where the information you need can be read now. Injecting is more like trying to write your own book and mix it up with the book another author wrote without him noticing. If the author changes it you will have to read it all over again and then write your own parts in the book all over again so the author wont notice what you did to his book.
Comparing things like PQR and HB is like comparing a simple tool like a hammer and the machines that produce CPUs for Intel.
And just because you don't see the changes doen't mean they're not there. If you ever get to start coding or even writing HBProfiles a bit you will soon notice that there is more than one way to have the program do what you want it to do. Two programers could write programs in the same language that look exactly the same and do exactly the same but almost no line of their code is the same. Like that Blizzard can change WoWs code completely without you even noticing because everything would look and work like it ever did.
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Very true, but no one will care. They want bot now, dont want to wait. its as if life has ended.
 
Of course we want the bot now. We're botters. People saying blah, blah PQR this, blah blah PQR that don't realise we don't want a bot that just does a rotation for us. We want a bot that plays the *whole game*. Bet these people PQRing only have one account. *I* can play on one account (if badly), only HB can play on *TEN*.
 
GranPapi said:
I think Bossland/HB should release a version with no guarantees for those guys who can't wait, where they can start boting right away when the realms go live, then get caught/banned for a new Warden and then UNDERSTAND why we have to wait.
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Its not even about safety. Even if they give out a version that attaches it wont be able to move ot fight to accept quests and all that stuff
 
Pqr is not just a simple tool and there is a place and time for it just like there's a place and time for botting 10 accounts. If you wanna raid and get achieves and not have to worry am I optimizing my rotation doing it by hand or am I putting out the most I possibly can every second of every raid then pqr is for that. Or in some cases arenas and rbgs
 
miestaruler said:
You should be happy there is a bot!. Or go create one yourself!
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theres more then just one, but you got hb stuffed so far up your ass you prolly dont even know that.

we payed for this bot, downtime is ok, but telling him to create one himself is retarded.
 
Bioern said:
Ok guys complaining.
Im a member of this community for a long time now and I can tell you the following.
We had these downtimes after every bigger patch and pirox the only bot comparable to HB in the last years had those too. If Blizzard changes 1 line of code it could mean that the Hb team has to change 100 to get along with that change.
Quting other bots like Apollo did just before me is just nonsense. Most other bots rely on memoryreadying and things like that. Hb is a bot that relys on memoryreading and also on injecting. I am not an expert in these things but to compare that: Memoryreading is like opening a book and reading whats written in it. Even if the author changes the chapters you simply have to look where the information you need can be read now. Injecting is more like trying to write your own book and mix it up with the book another author wrote without him noticing. If the author changes it you will have to read it all over again and then write your own parts in the book all over again so the author wont notice what you did to his book.
Comparing things like PQR and HB is like comparing a simple tool like a hammer and the machines that produce CPUs for Intel.
And just because you don't see the changes doen't mean they're not there. If you ever get to start coding or even writing HBProfiles a bit you will soon notice that there is more than one way to have the program do what you want it to do. Two programers could write programs in the same language that look exactly the same and do exactly the same but almost no line of their code is the same. Like that Blizzard can change WoWs code completely without you even noticing because everything would look and work like it ever did.
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Blizzard/WoW dev's I could safely assume code in teams, using the same principles - the 'structure' of the code wouldnt change as it would cost them so much in time. I'm a programmer myself (granted currently only in SQL & VB - previously DB programming in visual FP so I do understand the importance of keeping things the same or very similar when writing code) So this would flaw your 'book reading/re-reading' analogy. For Blizzard to change the structure of the code would mean exactly what you said, to re-write it. They wouldn't do this unless they needed to change the code structure due to security or something else.


Like I said before, I'm not having a go...just a bit dissapointing thats all & I'm sure thats just how the others feel. Just a bit of continuity and customer acknowledgement/care, after all - It's a product we pay for so I dont think asking for a bit of nouse or solid judgement prior to these issues would be a bad thing. :)
 
I, for one, very much appreciate the work the HB devs put into this bot. I verymuch appreciate the work the CC programmers do and all the profiles that fellow users upload.

I VERY much appreciate the fact that Kicks is willing to make us wait a week to get it right rather than just give the first thing that runs our toons into a wall.

Just a quick thanks to Kicks and any others that are involved.
 
plaray51 said:
And they appreciate the fact that you paid for it. Im sick of all these suckups. It's a product you paid for. They put a price on it you paid it you get product no need to hit your forehead on the devs stomachs over it
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Dont be a smartass. He can say thanks all he wants. Doesnt mean he's sucking up. Sure a couple of the Dev's here get paid but most of them do not. He's also thanking them.
 
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I usually don't like to interject myself into discussions like this, but just as before in the CATA update(s) there are things that need to be done right, to protect you and your accounts.

Would you rather they spent hours updating a slider bar that shows progress or spend that time writing, testing, and confirming lines of code to be back up and running? The issue is patience, and as with anything good in life its worth the wait. So please, I implore you to stay patient and let them develop a system that will be the best for you, them, and the community.

Besides, its not worth pushing something out the door if its not 100%, you could loose your entire customer base. So from a business standpoint they have it right as well.

Please be patient - go learn how your new class works, attempt to kill a holy paladin (haha! good luck), finish that quest line you were always too annoyed to do, or spend some time getting to know the people in your guild - I'm sure they'll appreciate you becoming part of their "team" again.

Thanks guys, and be safe.
 
akassaw said:
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I usually don't like to interject myself into discussions like this, but just as before in the CATA update(s) there are things that need to be done right, to protect you and your accounts.

Would you rather they spent hours updating a slider bar that shows progress or spend that time writing, testing, and confirming lines of code to be back up and running? The issue is patience, and as with anything good in life its worth the wait. So please, I implore you to stay patient and let them develop a system that will be the best for you, them, and the community.

Besides, its not worth pushing something out the door if its not 100%, you could loose your entire customer base. So from a business standpoint they have it right as well.

Please be patient - go learn how your new class works, attempt to kill a holy paladin (haha! good luck), finish that quest line you were always too annoyed to do, or spend some time getting to know the people in your guild - I'm sure they'll appreciate you becoming part of their "team" again.

Thanks guys, and be safe.
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I agree with you 100% on the 'making sure it's right first time', couldn't agree more. However, no one asked for a fancy slide bar or un-needed work to be done, just standard practise updates for consumers. Please don't throw us the line that some are not getting paid; that's nothing to do with the paying community, that's a problem for how the 'business' is being run - you might as well inform people who aren't aware, that being a volunteer also doesn't pay well in all walks of life ;). Also, don't forget, the majority of consumers for HB/GB product etc also put the hours in to help the developers by testing, modifying code, sharing CC's, creating UI's and all the other fancy stuff that goes with it - we also don't get paid. I'm not saying that we are unpaid lacky's for the product, but show a bit of respect to a a community that work's very closely together in order to make the product work.


P.s - I'd wait longer if it means the work's done right, I'm just not really a fan of being in the dark :)
 
plaray51 said:
And they appreciate the fact that you paid for it. Im sick of all these suckups. It's a product you paid for. They put a price on it you paid it you get product no need to hit your forehead on the devs stomachs over it
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LOL, that I paid for it. I paid what < 100 bucks to run three instances of the best, most active community bot available. Please, I paid that much to fill up my wife's van with gas. If it wasn't for this bot I would have had to quit WoW a lot time ago because I have a family. I'm not a programmer, IDK how to write these things myself.

Their skills, time and talent are worth the money. Their customer service is what we are thanking them for, A LOT of companies don't care after they have your money. I paid these guys like a year ago and they (with the community) still provide me great service and aren't making another dime. You know what, I'm going to stop typing and go donate to the profile writers through paypal.

Peace
 
Ive been around since HB was released, actually before when GB was the way to go, and trust me its better to wait. If you push a release that isn't working properly for a WoW patch - it increases your detection rate. It will more than likely act up and give you away. Plus, expansion means they changed the game engine a little bit and for all we know they added new bot detection things in the super top secret Blizz underground labs.

Patience is a winner, cry somewhere else. You paid for it, but you also paid for your WoW accounts. Would you rather wait a week or see all your botting efforts out the window from bans?
 
Now I start being a little impatient :P I saw how much they buffed guild rep and removed caps and I am in a hurry to have 3 toons leveling my 2nd guild. Even at low low levels you get extreme guild rep and you see the guild levels ding much faster. 3 accounts just leveling means really fast level to 25.
 
i love the argument from both sides but i would have to say botting is always a risk so if people don't mind running into a wall with a bot that is 100% let them. Also updates would be a great thing and letting your user base know a week, a day, 12hrs, 6hrs maybe before hand that its going to be down for a week is always common practice. I mean beta and ptrs have been out for 10months now they knew the entire talent system was changing and that there was going to be needed updates did they not?
 
Vansanity said:
I mean beta and ptrs have been out for 10months now they knew the entire talent system was changing and that there was going to be needed updates did they not?
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Exactly. In fact the exact build was out 5 days precious to the Tuesday patch
 
Kikeron said:
Now I start being a little impatient :P I saw how much they buffed guild rep and removed caps and I am in a hurry to have 3 toons leveling my 2nd guild. Even at low low levels you get extreme guild rep and you see the guild levels ding much faster. 3 accounts just leveling means really fast level to 25.
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Im the exact same as you except I only have 2 accounts haha.
 
To be honest we have now time to make some kind of sindicate to control price of gold.
 
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