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[PAID] Vengeance - Richie's Retribution Paladin PvP/PvE [Pro Edition]

MNC2 said:
Then Richie's routines are perfect for you. That's what I do on all of them. I control the character myself, position wise, but it does all the dps/interrupts for me.

So basically play as you normally would, attack who you want, move to where you want, but just let it do it's thing. :)
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Sounds perfect, but how do I disable the actual movement... at the current time my guy is possessed and I can't control him at all :P
 
randell said:
Sounds perfect, but how do I disable the actual movement... at the current time my guy is possessed and I can't control him at all :P
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Use Enyo instead of BGBuddy if you want to control the movement in battlegrounds.
 
While coding I use dungeonbuddy to do the LFR with my pally using my routine. Beating other ret pallies 20+ itemlevels above me on damage. :)

My PvE gear is sub-par(mostly PvP gear) and was lazy to enchant them.

Fun to watch :)

Edit: end result:
RetributionLFR.jpg
 
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I'm attacking again.

A handy hotkey would be "prepare burst" which saves up holy power and doesnt use Execution Sentence for say 30 seconds (then just turns itself off if you havent used the burst hotkey).

Detection of the WOG glyph and using it as part of the burst opener may be handy. An extra 9% damage for the next 4 globals isn't bad.

Does the rotation priority change for burst? It doesn't seem to be using Hammer of Wrath every cooldown. Should be able to use it every 3rd ability with wings.

How is Seraphim used? Should it be used every cooldown outside of burst? Right now I don't see the CR using it.
 
MNC2 said:
I'm not really sure what's going on this time in arena/skirmish.

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Could you please try it again? It works for me in arenas.

[07:37:48.562 N] 48:562 Key is pressed. Manual Cast Pause Activated. Combat Routine will pause for 200 ms
[07:37:48.916 N] 48:916 Key is pressed. Manual Cast Pause Activated. Combat Routine will pause for 200 ms
[07:37:49.320 N] 49:320 - HP: 49% - Mana: 57% - HoPo: 1 - Lvl 100 Horde Rogue - 3y - 55% hp - Crusader Strike
[07:37:49.980 N] [CombatLog] Stop casting because of an incoming Kick
[07:37:49.980 N] [CombatLog] Cast successfully stopped before the interrupt.
[07:37:50.669 N] 50:669 - HP: 41% - Mana: 62% - HoPo: 2 - Lvl 100 Horde Rogue - 2y - 51% hp - Exorcism
[07:37:52.086 N] 52:086 - HP: 34% - Mana: 58% - HoPo: 3 - Me - 0y - 34% hp - Emancipate
[07:37:53.637 N] 53:637 - HP: 16% - Mana: 50% - HoPo: 3 - Me - 0y - 16% hp - Word of Glory
[07:37:55.205 N] 55:205 - HP: 4% - Mana: 57% - HoPo: 0 - Lvl 100 Horde Rogue - 8y - 43% hp - Judgment (Gap Closer)

Edit: Played for ~2 hours and it worked like a charm in arena. I can't even imagine what is happening at you, your log says that the routine has an error where I can't imagine that it could be possible.
 
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evilution said:
I'm attacking again.

A handy hotkey would be "prepare burst" which saves up holy power and doesnt use Execution Sentence for say 30 seconds (then just turns itself off if you havent used the burst hotkey).

Detection of the WOG glyph and using it as part of the burst opener may be handy. An extra 9% damage for the next 4 globals isn't bad.

Does the rotation priority change for burst? It doesn't seem to be using Hammer of Wrath every cooldown. Should be able to use it every 3rd ability with wings.

How is Seraphim used? Should it be used every cooldown outside of burst? Right now I don't see the CR using it.
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Added the hotkey suggestion to my TODO list.

I'm not so sure about using 3 Holy Powers for the +9% damage on the next 4 spells worth it. You could use a Final Verdict instead and would be better off. That glyph is great for giving you something back in the damage department to compansate you for using your HP on healing.

It's using HoW every time it has to. Even when you have Avenging Wrath up Final Verdict is still higher priority than HoW. So whenever you have 5 HP or a DP proc up, it will use FV, if not it will use HoW when it's not on cooldown.

When you use Divine Purpose(I prefer this for the increased sustained damage while still having a nice burst potential) it will get a bit more hectic and will use HoW less because of the DP procs.

Just an example for chain DP procs during burst. Not much HoW used. :)

29:836 - HP: 100% - Mana: 98% - HoPo: 4 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Judgment
31:269 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
32:729 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
34:164 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
35:580 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
37:007 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Me - 0y - 100% hp - Divine Storm (FV+Perk proc)
38:409 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
39:839 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
41:270 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
42:684 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Hammer of Wrath
44:113 - HP: 100% - Mana: 98% - HoPo: 3 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Crusader Strike


When you use Holy Avenger it will be more predictable and will look like this:


04:820 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 4 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Execution Sentence
06:222 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 4 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Crusader Strike
07:637 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
09:055 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Hammer of Wrath
10:434 - HP: 100% - Mana: 98% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
11:846 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Me - 0y - 100% hp - Divine Storm (FV+Perk proc)
13:257 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Crusader Strike
14:705 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
16:119 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Hammer of Wrath
17:525 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
18:900 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Crusader Strike
20:318 - HP: 100% - Mana: 99% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict
21:735 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 2 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Hammer of Wrath
23:139 - HP: 100% - Mana: 100% - HoPo: 5 - Training Dummy - 2y - 100% hp - Final Verdict


As for Seraphim, on the burst tab you can see an option to align Seraphim with the burst cooldowns. When checked the routine will only use Seraphim when:
-You're bursting
-When your burst cooldowns has more than 30s cooldowns to make sure that Seraphim will be available when your other burst cooldowns are.
-When your burst cooldowns are not on cooldown it won't use Seraphim at all to make sure it's ready for bursting. Just like you explained it in your first point.

If you don't want to line up Seraphim with the other burst cooldowns, just uncheck that option.

Cheers,
Richie
 
Hi, Love your routine, works pretty good :)

Any plans in the future to customize spell priority?
eg, use DS over TV if > 2 targets, or changing TV/DS priority due to tier bonuses
 
It should already use DS instead of TV/FV on more than 2 targets if you set the AoE mode to include everyone, not just players.

What tier bonus you're talking about?
 
Compared to Tuanhas CC how is Richies Paladin CR doing? :)I'm just curious might be a new customer then :P
 
quel said:
Compared to Tuanhas CC how is Richies Paladin CR doing? :)I'm just curious might be a new customer then :P
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I'd love to know it as well. ><

I didn't have the time nor the will to test other CRs. I don't create my routines based on other's routines, I create mines based on my instincts and the stuff the user base needs. So I can't really comment on this and eager to know the differences from the user's viewpoint. :)
 
Hey All,

Started using this as a trial, Also have Tuanha's pally CR. Have to say im quite happy with the results, Tuanha's DPS is lower in raid setting then this one however there's a couple kinks that maybe i just don't have configured right that i think would make this the #1 for sure.

Things i think could be added or done better or i suck at configuring:

1, avenging wrath on burst
2, burst on heroism
3, str pot on burst
4, selecting how many mobs required to aoe mode
5, burst on pull mode? or a burst hotkey

Trying to optimize my DPS in raids with this its not quite up to the same DPS as PR but its getting there! Really happy with it so far and is now on my purchase list! Thanks Richie for your hard work!
 
ckrewt said:
Hey All,

Started using this as a trial, Also have Tuanha's pally CR. Have to say im quite happy with the results, Tuanha's DPS is lower in raid setting then this one however there's a couple kinks that maybe i just don't have configured right that i think would make this the #1 for sure.

Things i think could be added or done better or i suck at configuring:

1, avenging wrath on burst
2, burst on heroism
3, str pot on burst
4, selecting how many mobs required to aoe mode
5, burst on pull mode? or a burst hotkey

Trying to optimize my DPS in raids with this its not quite up to the same DPS as PR but its getting there! Really happy with it so far and is now on my purchase list! Thanks Richie for your hard work!
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1, avenging wrath on burst - It's already using it. If you think it does not, please attach me a log file
2, burst on heroism - see below
3, str pot on burst - might add it for PvE
4, selecting how many mobs required to aoe mode - Just dug into the depth of the AoE rotation and will rework it a bit.
5, burst on pull mode? or a burst hotkey - Hotkeys are coming

Planning to add automatic burst for PvE encounters, still trying to figure out what would be the optimal.

I think that it would be like this:
-For Dungeonbuddy it will burst on CD when attacking a boss mob(maybe on trash too)
-for non-afk botbases you'll have to press the burst hotkey

Any other ideas?
 
RichieCR said:
1, avenging wrath on burst - It's already using it. If you think it does not, please attach me a log file
2, burst on heroism - see below
3, str pot on burst - might add it for PvE
4, selecting how many mobs required to aoe mode - Just dug into the depth of the AoE rotation and will rework it a bit.
5, burst on pull mode? or a burst hotkey - Hotkeys are coming

Planning to add automatic burst for PvE encounters, still trying to figure out what would be the optimal.

I think that it would be like this:
-For Dungeonbuddy it will burst on CD when attacking a boss mob(maybe on trash too)
-for non-afk botbases you'll have to press the burst hotkey

Any other ideas?
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Purchased! :)

I tried HazzPaladin / Tuanha / Soapbox - Tuanha had lower DPS, HazzPaladin had lower dps and had some random rotational issues, Soapbox had better DPS but i dont trust it as much as i do HB. I think with some small tweaks to the rotation and hotkeys for burst this would be far superior. Perhaps allowing a setting to allow the player to select how many mobs indicates AOE mode and also a hotkey to disable/enable your AOE mode for fights where you dont want to AOE adds down.

I haven't tried this in arena yet, Will give that a go next week and tell you how me and my partner get on but so far im impressed and love the fact that your responsive on the forums, thank for you a great product :)
 
Love the routine! I agree with ckrewt in that the dps seems to be better than the others listed above.

Your proposed additions sound perfect, but I had a quick question (as maybe I can fix it myself): Is there a way to have the routine not auto engage targets? Just clicking a target it will start attacking it, even if I did not want to start attacking. Not going to be good on a boss fight when I click the boss and the routine starts attacking automatically.

Hope that all made sense.

Thanks!

EDIT: I will be using this primarily for PvE, if that wasn't obvious. And no, I do not have "left click to interact with targets" selected in-game.
 
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Hey There,

Still not getting avenging wrath via burst, switched burst to 100% / 99% / standard 30% still no go ? Attached my log below, clean install and test still the same issue.
 

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ckrewt said:
Purchased! :)

I tried HazzPaladin / Tuanha / Soapbox - Tuanha had lower DPS, HazzPaladin had lower dps and had some random rotational issues, Soapbox had better DPS but i dont trust it as much as i do HB. I think with some small tweaks to the rotation and hotkeys for burst this would be far superior. Perhaps allowing a setting to allow the player to select how many mobs indicates AOE mode and also a hotkey to disable/enable your AOE mode for fights where you dont want to AOE adds down.

I haven't tried this in arena yet, Will give that a go next week and tell you how me and my partner get on but so far im impressed and love the fact that your responsive on the forums, thank for you a great product :)
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The option to set the number of targets to AoE is on it's way already.
 
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