TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

[tuanha]

Hi guys, New Honorbuddy Version is up and we have an update too

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Optimization and bug fix

Originally Posted by Recondos One big thing i'm noticing is that even while using Chi Explosion it is not using the 3+ Chi Explosion to Purify, is there any way to prioritize this so that it doesn't lose shuffle time by choosing the One Chi Purify? When running that talent it should be prioritizing Chi Explosion for Purify in PvE situations

Is there any way to maintain a minimum shuffle uptime? I know that at least 4-6 seconds of shuffle is a good barrier to have in a PvE situation that will allow you to still use 2 Chi on Guard, but maintain the active mitigation going for the fight. When the adds came out on mythic Tectus the routine started using 1 chi purify and wasn't able to maintain shuffle uptime which allowed a lot of unmitigated damage to go through


I know that this could be difficult since it doesn't line up with PvP but maybe there could be a switch? Like Check PvE or PvP brewmaster and use a slightly different logic for it?

I'll make that on todo list. Monk in AoE should use Chi Exp at 4 Chi but yes, in PvE there's no need to do more damage, survive is more important so better use it at 2 chi if Shuffle is expiring soon

Edit: update on BM logic, we don't waste chi on Purify Brew if Shuffle is less than 6 seconds left.

 

[callumz]

I have purchased your full package a while back & was excisted to use the WW routine for my monk back in MOP. However after returning and using the MW (healing) spec routine for him in PVP it seems to be lacking somewhat. I seem to be taken down very easily or my partner is. I can't see many options for casting heavier spells it seems to just love the channeled healing spell. Is there any way you could help? Cheers.

 

[cheesy_beans]

Hi guys, New Honorbuddy Version is up and we have an update too

Version 6.0.5491
New build compartible with new Honorbuddy 2.5.12600.764
Optimization and bug fix

I'll make that on todo list. Monk in AoE should use Chi Exp at 4 Chi but yes, in PvE there's no need to do more damage, survive is more important so better use it at 2 chi if Shuffle is expiring soon

Edit: update on BM logic, we don't waste chi on Purify Brew if Shuffle is less than 6 seconds left.

Tried BM this morning on the Raiders Target Dummy, 100% shuffle uptime using Chi Explosion now and managed to survive against it for a long time, so very impressed. Will try in a Raiding Environment tomorrow.

 

[supermann]

Maybe u should know that 2P PvP bonus will not work in PvE anymore.
How is it with the 4P bonus from BM ?

 

[mnime]

I have purchased your full package a while back & was excisted to use the WW routine for my monk back in MOP. However after returning and using the MW (healing) spec routine for him in PVP it seems to be lacking somewhat. I seem to be taken down very easily or my partner is. I can't see many options for casting heavier spells it seems to just love the channeled healing spell. Is there any way you could help? Cheers.

what do you mean heavier spells? You should always use Soothing Mist so your other spells get improved. Soothing Mist makes your Surging Mist instant, So, "it is" your heaviest healing spell along with Enveloping Mist buff. remember this is mw monk you're playing, not a disc priest that you can cast 1 shield and 1 penance and BAM, your partner is full. Deal with it, this is what blizzard calls Balanced Classes... sadly...

 

[callumz]

what do you mean heavier spells? You should always use Soothing Mist so your other spells get improved. Soothing Mist makes your Surging Mist instant, So, "it is" your heaviest healing spell along with Enveloping Mist buff. remember this is mw monk you're playing, not a disc priest that you can cast 1 shield and 1 penance and BAM, your partner is full. Deal with it, this is what blizzard calls Balanced Classes... sadly...

I don't know i've not the foggiest how to play healing monk. I just know I cant keep myself or my partner up very long at all in arena. and I saw there was a 1.5sec cast healing spell like flash of light.

 

[barflyjosh18]

Mythic WW monk here using the CR. I have been testing all week on Heroic Butcher best I can get is 800 in the world on warcraft logs. After looking at my logs I am losing out on dps with Tiger Eye Brew, it is not being used efficiently enough around 15% in terms of upkeep. The CR wants to use it at weird times instead of when it should to maximize dps. Comparing to the 95th percentile TEB needs to be used more often. I can provide wow logs if needed to help with this logic just send me a PM.

top WW monks hits TEB every 25 secs
CR hits it around every 31 secs

 

[mnime]

I don't know i've not the foggiest how to play healing monk. I just know I cant keep myself or my partner up very long at all in arena. and I saw there was a 1.5sec cast healing spell like flash of light.

That 1.5 sec cast healing spell turn into instant cast when you channel Soothing Mist, and the routine is doing it perfectly without burniing mana. plz read the rotation before suggest anything. Mistweaver Monk Healing Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (WoD 6.0.3) - Icy Veins

For single target healing, you should always be channeling Soothing Mist Icon Soothing Mist as a default action. You should be constantly interrupting these channels to cast other spells, as needed. You should never be standing idle without at least channeling Soothing Mist.

Mythic WW monk here using the CR. I have been testing all week on Heroic Butcher best I can get is 800 in the world on warcraft logs. After looking at my logs I am losing out on dps with Tiger Eye Brew, it is not being used efficiently enough around 15% in terms of upkeep. The CR wants to use it at weird times instead of when it should to maximize dps. Comparing to the 95th percentile TEB needs to be used more often. I can provide wow logs if needed to help with this logic just send me a PM.

top WW monks hits TEB every 25 secs
CR hits it around every 31 secs

The best time to use TEB is when you have atleast 10 stacks and when your FoF is available, so you get max dps out of FoF which is one of the most damaging spells of monks.
First of all you need to gear Multistrike for single target, second, WorldofLogs sucks right now, use WarcraftLogs instead. And third, this routine does the most single target damage possible with any gear, so if you do less damage it may be because you turned on Leg Sweep or other stun talents in the routine, so the routine keeps doing it in the rotation on the boss and wastes 1 global cooldown. so turn it off in the settings. Also it may be because you geared towards haste or mastery more than Multistrike or Crit. All in all you didnt' provide good information on your problem so atleast I can't help you on this matter very much.

 

[Zoiks75]

Tuanha,

No log provided because I didn't necessarily encounter an error, just some observations.

1. I raid healed all of MoP with your Paladin/Monk special edition and was just floored by your work, however, since returning to the game something seems off to me now no matter how many changes I make in the settings. The bot focuses so much on the tank that often times, when I'm at 30% health and other group members are as well, the bot still tries to top the tank off even though the tank was already 90%+ health.

2. IIRC, MoP logic would stop casting to heal someone else that needed healing. I've noted the current bot waiting till the current spell being cast is complete before moving on. My current fix is to manually move the bot a step and it seems to wake up and the move targets to the group member who needs healing.

3. When using the switch stance MW preset, if I have Auto Target turned off, shouldn't the bot wait for me to target something before deciding to go dps mode? I have it turned off but it still targets whatever it wants to, even if I'd rather it target another mob instead.

Thank you for your awesome work! Please let me know if I need to provide further information to help out

Zoiks

 

[barflyjosh18]

That 1.5 sec cast healing spell turn into instant cast when you channel Soothing Mist, and the routine is doing it perfectly without burniing mana. plz read the rotation before suggest anything. Mistweaver Monk Healing Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (WoD 6.0.3) - Icy Veins



The best time to use TEB is when you have atleast 10 stacks and when your FoF is available, so you get max dps out of FoF which is one of the most damaging spells of monks.
First of all you need to gear Multistrike for single target, second, WorldofLogs sucks right now, use WarcraftLogs instead. And third, this routine does the most single target damage possible with any gear, so if you do less damage it may be because you turned on Leg Sweep or other stun talents in the routine, so the routine keeps doing it in the rotation on the boss and wastes 1 global cooldown. so turn it off in the settings. Also it may be because you geared towards haste or mastery more than Multistrike or Crit. All in all you didnt' provide good information on your problem so atleast I can't help you on this matter very much.

i am geared MS right now with double warsong to take advantage of the haste buff the hotfix just provided. Still waiting on sims to see if warsong is the way to go or not. I understand 10 stacks in when it goes off. I am not a noob off the street here man I did butcher 10 times today testing everything. The CR is not using TEB efficiently compared to someone at the same Ilevel as me with close to the same gear. Its off on its use. I am also using Hekili to watch the rotation as this is used with sims for a perfect rotation. It hangs sometimes on FOF and the CR uses FOF sometimes without popping TEB.

 

[muser11]

Hi guys, New Honorbuddy Version is up and we have an update too

Version 6.0.5491
New build compartible with new Honorbuddy 2.5.12600.764
Optimization and bug fix

I'll make that on todo list. Monk in AoE should use Chi Exp at 4 Chi but yes, in PvE there's no need to do more damage, survive is more important so better use it at 2 chi if Shuffle is expiring soon

Edit: update on BM logic, we don't waste chi on Purify Brew if Shuffle is less than 6 seconds left.

I suffer lot with FPS .. i contact with support and i wait some answer but i think when i use Tuanha (and sinqular too but is better than Tuanha) drop dramaticaly at 1-5 fps .. That happened after new updates (HB and Tuanha too) so is dificult to see where is the problem .. Can u see it too plz? I have the full version.

 

[thatwouldbestealing]

One big thing i'm noticing is that even while using Chi Explosion it is not using the 3+ Chi Explosion to Purify, is there any way to prioritize this so that it doesn't lose shuffle time by choosing the One Chi Purify? When running that talent it should be prioritizing Chi Explosion for Purify in PvE situations

Is there any way to maintain a minimum shuffle uptime? I know that at least 4-6 seconds of shuffle is a good barrier to have in a PvE situation that will allow you to still use 2 Chi on Guard, but maintain the active mitigation going for the fight. When the adds came out on mythic Tectus the routine started using 1 chi purify and wasn't able to maintain shuffle uptime which allowed a lot of unmitigated damage to go through

I know that this could be difficult since it doesn't line up with PvP but maybe there could be a switch? Like Check PvE or PvP brewmaster and use a slightly different logic for it?

The old (Mists of Pandaria) TuanHa Special Edition used to have this feature -you could set a 'Minimum Shuffle Duration' (I believe the default setting was 6 seconds).

In my humble opinion, Tudora was a little naughty in removing this feature from the WoD release.

But of course, you raise an excellent point (and no doubt a complex calculation for TuanHa) regards to how Chi Explosion effects Purify and Shuffle. In raiding (working on Mythic 4/7!) I have been using Serenity and am happy enough with the performance. I would also add that T17 simulations (sans set bonuses) use Serenity in their calculations, which place Brewmaster tanks very favourably as the top choice of tank. It would be outstanding if we could have Chi Explosion calculated into the CR ready for the Tier 17 set bonuses... which are going to shake things up even further. It's going to be difficult for TuanHa to calculate all of this... I hope he has time or manpower to pull it off.

 

[mafiav2]

I did a raid and it attempts to do the soothing mist juke during the encounter. If it is possible to only set the juke in PVP areas it would be great. Soothing Mist would cast then recast showing enveloping mist for a tenth of a second before it cancels enveloping mist and starts soothing mist again.

 

[tuanha]

I did a raid and it attempts to do the soothing mist juke during the encounter. If it is possible to only set the juke in PVP areas it would be great. Soothing Mist would cast then recast showing enveloping mist for a tenth of a second before it cancels enveloping mist and starts soothing mist again.

Soothing Mist Juke coded only activate in BG/Arena and no where else, I need a log to confirm that bug mafiav2

 

[tuanha]

Hi guys,

New update remove Monk Jab during Heightened Senses (2 PvP Set Bonus) outside Arena/BG...

Blame Blizzard for that nerf xD

 

[Hijak3k]

TuanHA, Get Priest, Mage, Warlock routines too!

 

[Pyo]

Those of you using this routine for BrM what setting do you use for purify? Light or moderate or are you using it manually?

 

[NovemberLima]

Those of you using this routine for BrM what setting do you use for purify? Light or moderate or are you using it manually?

I raid mythic, and I use auto purify on heavy stagger. Most of my purifies are done by hand, at 20%-30% stagger.

 

[ThrowAway]

I raid mythic, and I use auto purify on heavy stagger. Most of my purifies are done by hand, at 20%-30% stagger.

I raid mythic and purify on medium. I just forget about it most of the time, let the routine do it. Always use serenity, you can use it as a defensive cooldown for spam purify and to build up 60+ seconds of shuffle so you can spend your chi on medium staggers.

 

[cheesy_beans]

I'm having an issue with Stance of the Spirited Crane and Chi Explosion. When Chi Explosion is talented, the routine does not cast Rising Sun Kick at all, it has to be manually cast. Could this be looked into?

Without Rising Sun Kick the routine is essentially wasting 20% DPS and 20% HPS.

[Edit: Also, with Pool of Mists talent selected, the Routine will only cast Rising Sun Kick to place the debuff on the target and then casts Blackout Kick thereafter, despite RSK having 3 charges and hitting for 50% more.]