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TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

lneepoch said:
Hey Tuan,

Also, any chance of it not disarming casters? Looks a bit silly when I disarm a mage going ham. Or is this a mechanic im not aware of that helps?
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Removing about 6,8k SPD, resi and so on looks good is not it? Disarming working same for caster as for mele. Only difference is the mele cant attack you with out weapon but casters can but mmuch more weaker.
 
Disarm always priority Melee > Hunter > Caster > Healer.

If there no Melee or Hunter, CR will Grapple Weapon Caster because better use that spell than waste it.

And as Cerbz say, it does reduce caster damage and not really that silly :D
 
bp423 said:
TuanHA will you add Spell ID 137341 to the list of debuffs to look for. Any tanks that have this need to NOT be healed.
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Ok let me check it again.

Are you sure it still get healed? If there a Renewing Mist on that tank, just don't worry because we can't control Renewing Mist target, but if there's a Soothing Mist or something on him, I need to fix the code.
 
I'm getting delay on every ability and energy are often capped when questing. Any solution?
 
TuanHa do you have plans to add same healing stuff for monk as for pally CR in 375 ver?
 
You mean the Heal Balancing stuff?

Monk heal mechanic is different from Paladin and Monk run out of mana faster, not sure if we really need that mechanic on Paladin.
 
tuanha said:
Ok let me check it again.

Are you sure it still get healed? If there a Renewing Mist on that tank, just don't worry because we can't control Renewing Mist target, but if there's a Soothing Mist or something on him, I need to fix the code.
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Yeah it was a direct Soothing Mist.
 
truulte said:
I'm getting delay on every ability and energy are often capped when questing. Any solution?
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I've noticed this as well in raids. I'll try to remember to grab a log after my next raid if I notice it happening again.

Both chi and energy are capping constantly, and there seems to be a slight delay between each ability used, like the CR is taking a while to run the logic. Tyrael/Lazyraider, Framelock vs. not, there's no difference. I thought perhaps it was my gear, but Simulationcraft simmed my character several thousand dps higher than I'm seeing in game.
 
Cerbz said:
Removing about 6,8k SPD, resi and so on looks good is not it? Disarming working same for caster as for mele. Only difference is the mele cant attack you with out weapon but casters can but mmuch more weaker.
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Genius! Thankyou sir. I did not know this.
 
alagondar47 said:
I've noticed this as well in raids. I'll try to remember to grab a log after my next raid if I notice it happening again.

Both chi and energy are capping constantly, and there seems to be a slight delay between each ability used, like the CR is taking a while to run the logic. Tyrael/Lazyraider, Framelock vs. not, there's no difference. I thought perhaps it was my gear, but Simulationcraft simmed my character several thousand dps higher than I'm seeing in game.
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Bug? Please attach log file, that help me solve your problem faster. Guide here
 
Tuahna, found a bug in last rev. MW, 25ppl. Some moments in fight, then CR stop healing till cast 1-2 renewing mists. Stop all: soothing, uplift, chi wave and all other spells. But after 1-2 renewing mist all OK. Tried refresh install, clean hb, pause and then start (hotkey tyrael). nothing

as example - some logs, Primourdius HM encounter.
thx 4 your support :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9egdq0nz3f4b3qk/Logs.rar
 
There a problem in the Renewing Mist force cast. I'll fix it tomorrow.
 
tuanha said:
Ok let me check it again.

Are you sure it still get healed? If there a Renewing Mist on that tank, just don't worry because we can't control Renewing Mist target, but if there's a Soothing Mist or something on him, I need to fix the code.
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This is the issue I started to ask you to fix some days ago and then I completely forgot to finish to explain to you on skype. Here what i forgot to type:

When you have one of the tanks on the side tanking one of the adds called Beasts of Nightmares, most heals that you put on the tank will result in the caster gaining a stack of Corrupted Healing. One or two stacks isn?t a big deal, but ramp that up to 6-8, and it becomes a bigger issue. And add heroic, suddenly that 10k a tick per stack jumps to 30k a tick per stack Couple that with the fact some odd spells are causing healers ? and some DPS ? to gain stacks, it definitely requires some management and knowing what does and does not cause stacks.
Hots pre-cast on the tank prior to that tank picking up the add seem to be fine.

Does Give Stacks: Uplift, Soothing Mist (both direct and statue), Chi Wave (all specs), Expel Harm
Does Not Give Stacks: Healing Spheres, Emminence

Soothing Mist is not casted by the CC to the tank correctly. However, if the CC uses Uplift or Chi Wave, even to heal non-tank people, the tank is still healed and you will get a stack of Corrupted healing which may be reason of your death.

You should make a check and avoid Uplift, Chi Wave and Expel Harm completely if the tank is under the effect of this debuff.

This is what I wrote as guide for Twins (and remember to finish to quote all bosses comments in the first page ;) ):

Twin Consorts

Useful talents:

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Diffuse Magic - Mainly for first phase if you are bad at not getting stacks of the debuff from healing the tank. It's also good for the Tidal Force if you can't dodge it.
DO NOT USE
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Chi Wave: it will give Corrupted Healing

Tips and Tricks:

Cosmic barrage and Ice Comet WILL NOT hit you. STACK IN MELEE. Being in melee range is so much easier for this fight so that you don't have to worry about being near someone else or have someone complain that you are near them.

You'll want to make sure Revival is up during the Break of Dusk phase, as damage is highest there. Tidal Force is a good time for it, as it's about as high as raid damage gets for this fight.

Corrupted Healing. With the current state of the CC, it's impossible to avoid getting stacks of this debuffs. You basically will get it because uplifting during moments where one tank is tanking Beast of Nightmares with ReM on him. Either ask your tanks to make a macro to remove ReM, or you use
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Diffuse Magic when you reach 5-6-7 stacks. Just know that you are a shameful healer and are putting more of a burden on your other healers.

Use Zen Sphere & Xuen as the raid will be spread the whole fight.
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Nice, I'll skype you tomorrow for a better logic tsatsa...

I can not get on skype until tomorrow :S
 
tuanha said:
Nice, I'll skype you tomorrow for a better logic tsatsa...

I can not get on skype until tomorrow :S
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no problems... we also need to discuss to 2-3 improvements I thinked about, and the legendary gem proc correct use which should allow us to generate tons of chi to spend AoEing
 
Sometimes i get "Lua Failed in GetPlayerEnergy" or "Lua Failed in GetPlayerChi" when stopping HB (Because of low damage - It's a 10-15k DPS loss (WW) ) - i have to restart WoW and HB to get around this. Next time i will post you a log.

Is there a way to get around this without restarting WoW and HB?
 
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