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TuanHA Druid - The Ultimate Experience

would anyone care to share their pvp feral settings, the routine does alot of damage etc but always heals at random points or starts to cyclone,
can we change the priority spell routine, ourselves? as sometime i want to burst with Ferocious bite instead of refreshing Rip. also anyway for the routine to pool 50 energy before using ferocious bite, i see sometimes it uses on 3-4 combo points or 5 combos with base energy

cheers in advance
 
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oresal said:
CR should refresh Rake at a duration less than or equal to 4.5sec, and Rip @ <= 7.2sec.
Please fix this to increase uptime on bleeds, and maximize bleeds with damage buffs.

CR should lower priority of Ferocious Bite as Rake is approaching 4.5 seconds or as Rip is approaching 7.2 seconds.
For example, there was 5sec lost on Rip uptime because CR decided to use Bite instead at 4 seconds left on Rip.
I've seen it use energy it could have used to re-apply bleeds. That energy should be pooled for bleeds instead.

It is a DPS loss to use Thrash single target.
CR should not use Thrash AT ALL against single-target, even with clearcasting buff.
If using Soul of the Forest or Bloodtalons as a talent, then it should not use Thrash against a single target.

You will find these problems reflected in the attached log. The exact times of note are as follows:

[14:04:30.994 N] 30:994 HP: 100% Energy: 61% Combo: 0 Mana: 90 % Training Dummy 3.12y 100% HP Rip (1079)
[14:04:51.264 N] 51:263 HP: 100% Energy: 55% Combo: 0 Mana: 100 % Training Dummy 3.12y 98% HP Ferocious Bite (22568)
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[14:04:58.628 D] 58:628 Trying to cast Rip (1079) on Training Dummy Dist: 3.1174038456355 reason RipWoD1 Energy: 60 Combo: 5

This is the biggest problem. CR uses Ferocious Bite with ~5 seconds remaining on Rip, and the bleed falls off.
CR should refresh Rip at or below 7.2 seconds remaining on Rip, and 4.5 seconds on Rake.

Notice the 28 second difference - there was ~4 seconds where Rip had expired.
This is reflected in the following image, taken from my diagnostics against a target dummy, same as attached log.

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Thank oresal for pinpoint out the problem.

I've made a new version base on your suggestion and I got really nice dps increase in both PvP and PvE

Please update svn and let me know.

Thank you.
 
fielding said:
Hello TuanHA. I love how I am topping the healing meters with my resto druid profile. I can relax and "see" the fights while enjoying the loot.

Like one previous poster have said, try to fix the SotF proc with wild growth. (i dont use it yet, but I know its good)

Also a very important thing to fix, is the Healing Thouch logic. Healing Thouch should only be used almost when Wrath is being used, but it needs a raid setting and one for 5mans. Wrath is being used only when almost all is topped off, while this is more probable to happen in 5man dungeons, its less likely to happen in a big raid.

Thanks :)
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Oh, I forgot the change not only on Feral but Resto on your suggestion too Fielding :D
 
tuanha said:
Thank oresal for pinpoint out the problem.

I've made a new version base on your suggestion and I got really nice dps increase in both PvP and PvE

Please update svn and let me know.

Thank you.
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I'm testing it now and Rake is falling off much more than it did before.

Rip uptime is much better. It's refreshing Rip around 7.2sec.

Rake should be refreshed @ 4.5sec or below without falling off.

[23:50:44.727 D] 44:727 Trying to cast Rake (1822) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RakeWoD1 Energy: 113
[23:50:45.133 N] 45:133 HP: 100% Energy: 68% Combo: 4 Mana: 100 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rake (1822)

[23:51:01.088 D] 01:088 Trying to cast Rip (1079) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RipWoD1 Energy: 30 Combo: 5
[23:51:01.322 N] 01:322 HP: 100% Energy: 3% Combo: 0 Mana: 100 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rip (1079)

[23:51:09.857 D] 09:857 Trying to cast Rake (1822) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RakeWoD6 Energy: 38
[23:51:10.076 N] 10:076 HP: 100% Energy: 41% Combo: 5 Mana: 97 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rake (1822)

Even if unbuffed, rake should be near 100% uptime.
Rake refresh should be priority as its approaching 4.5sec.
It was casting shred instead, so there was significant downtime on rake.

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oresal said:
I'm testing it now and Rake is falling off much more than it did before.

Rip uptime is much better. It's refreshing Rip around 7.2sec.

Rake should be refreshed @ 4.5sec or below without falling off.

[23:50:44.727 D] 44:727 Trying to cast Rake (1822) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RakeWoD1 Energy: 113
[23:50:45.133 N] 45:133 HP: 100% Energy: 68% Combo: 4 Mana: 100 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rake (1822)

[23:51:01.088 D] 01:088 Trying to cast Rip (1079) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RipWoD1 Energy: 30 Combo: 5
[23:51:01.322 N] 01:322 HP: 100% Energy: 3% Combo: 0 Mana: 100 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rip (1079)

[23:51:09.857 D] 09:857 Trying to cast Rake (1822) on Training Dummy Dist: 2.72906745343567 reason RakeWoD6 Energy: 38
[23:51:10.076 N] 10:076 HP: 100% Energy: 41% Combo: 5 Mana: 97 % Training Dummy 2.73y 100% HP Rake (1822)

Even if unbuffed, rake should be near 100% uptime.
Rake refresh should be priority as its approaching 4.5sec.
It was casting shred instead, so there was significant downtime on rake.

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Hey oresal,

One thing I'm sure is you are very good at druid and you can point out the smallest error in the whole complicated rotation :D

New rev just updated with new Rake logic :D
 
Tuanha, for moonkin, Icy veins recommends delaying usage of Celestial Alignement until you are in Lunar Eclipse, but your rotation is currently using it as soon as it's up when you've selected "on cooldown - boss" in the settings. Is the only way to fix this by using the CD manually?
 
Hi there,

I already have Thuana Prenium for Hunter, who is a super CR !
Now, i want to up my drood and some question had been established. On PvP has Resto or Celestial, does it make well ? Any guys who try high ranking, since i can do on my hunter, warrior, cham 2k ? The update of this CR are fast, I know that this is a real work.

Thanks in advance.
 
nedbear said:
Uses Sunfire and Moonfire way too often when it's not needed. Kills the DPS.

Uses Sunfire when it reaches the Solar Peak, then very often 3-4 sec afterwards it will use Sunfire again even though there is 26-27 sec left of the DOT, and would last until the next Solar Peak.

I'm using the Donators version.

Can you look into it?

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Also is it possible to disable the use of Starsurge, so I can use it manually?

I experience that it uses Starsurge 2 times in a row overlapping the wrath/starfire buff you get, which also is a DPS loss.
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if u could fix this as well
 
Gleeky said:
Tuanha, for moonkin, Icy veins recommends delaying usage of Celestial Alignement until you are in Lunar Eclipse, but your rotation is currently using it as soon as it's up when you've selected "on cooldown - boss" in the settings. Is the only way to fix this by using the CD manually?
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On Single Target, Celestial Alignment only need you are at or above 40 Eclipse Energy. Only on AoE rotation it require you are on 8 or more second to Eclipse Moon
 
tuanha said:
On Single Target, Celestial Alignment only need you are at or above 40 Eclipse Energy. Only on AoE rotation it require you are on 8 or more second to Eclipse Moon
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You are the best man... Some people rae really unappreciative of the amount of work you put into your CR's but there are some of us that do understand! Thank you very sir very good progress so far this early into a new xpac!

Would you mind explaining why you only need to be at 40 on a single target as opposed to fully aligned? just curious
 
Hi guys, new version is up:

Moonkin: Will less likely use Starfall, it prefer Starsurge in Arena/Battleground
Support Empowered Moonkin form (thank sasore)
Add Rip option base on chrisy1000 request

Thank you.
 
tuanha said:
Hi guys, new version is up:

Moonkin: Will less likely use Starfall, it prefer Starsurge in Arena/Battleground
Support Empowered Moonkin form (thank sasore)
Add Rip option base on chrisy1000 request

Thank you.
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#owesyouhugs

Cheers dude you rock
 
tuanha said:
Hi guys, new version is up:

Moonkin: Will less likely use Starfall, it prefer Starsurge in Arena/Battleground
Support Empowered Moonkin form (thank sasore)
Add Rip option base on chrisy1000 request

Thank you.
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Tuan! We need you to add support for this ASAP please :) Item - Druid WoD PvP Balance 2P Bonus

The CR never uses entangling roots and it should be using it every 15 secs for a free cast of starsurge (before the previous update it would have been optimal to just basically spam roots and starsurge but it has been nerfed to where the effect can only occur every 15 secs)
 
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Hey guys, First off all I wanted to say that I have bought all of the Tuanha's CR and my hunter one works great and i'm sure they all work great but I cant get my Resto druid to heal efficiently in arena or pvp I find that he just burns that mana up so fast like I mean ridiculously fast I have messed around with the setting and I honestly cant seem to get this figured out. Any help on what the setting should be would be greatly appreciated or just any help on druid healing thanks in advance.
 
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