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Superbad (Druid CC)

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For an example with PQR and simple rotation my dps is better because the cc don't ask so many question JUST DPS ;p

When i have 5 combo point your cc take time to apply rip .
 
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ok i'm try to explain. Again sorry for my english very poor.

1- in Pull, the cc take time to apply rip, considering RoRo proc and Renataki proc, this rip buffed is major loss dps. In my opinion use the first combo point for apply rip and not savage roar (just refresh with glyph)
2- When i have 5 combo point the cc take time to apply Rip, i don't know if is cc lag or other but with pqr the cc use predatory swiftness and apply rip directly in less 2-3n seconds. In your cc take 5-6 sometimes...
3- I don't understand when the rip fade the cc use the combo point for tiger fury... So the cc re-up the combopoint and so we have 10 second with no rip in target... Maybe just refresh rip with no combo pt and make r? apply rip a priority. So a this point, i think it's really difficult to create this requirement. So this point isn't bad.
4- And i'm insist, it's really important to apply rip and rake with RoRo. For an example, my RoRo proc, but the cc again use the combo point to refresh savage roar and not r?apply RiP. I think it's THE problem with this cc, savage roar it's to priority unless regard with glyph. The glyph is major and i think her avoid this situation. I'm not clear in english i know. Use glyph to reapply rip it's better.

With pqr my uptime to rip is 90% with your cc sometime 70% ...
 
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superconnard said:
ok i'm try to explain. Again sorry for my english very poor.

1- in Pull, the cc take time to apply rip, considering RoRo proc and Renataki proc, this rip buffed is major loss dps. In my opinion use the first combo point for apply rip and not savage roar (just refresh with glyph)
2- When i have 5 combo point the cc take time to apply Rip, i don't know if is cc lag or other but with pqr the cc use predatory swiftness and apply rip directly in less 2-3n seconds. In your cc take 5-6 sometimes...
3- I don't understand when the rip fade the cc use the combo point for tiger fury... So the cc re-up the combopoint and so we have 10 second with no rip in target... Maybe just refresh rip with no combo pt and make r? apply rip a priority. So a this point, i think it's really difficult to create this requirement. So this point isn't bad.
4- And i'm insist, it's really important to apply rip and rake with RoRo. For an example, my RoRo proc, but the cc again use the combo point to refresh savage roar and not r?apply RiP. I think it's THE problem with this cc, savage roar it's to priority unless regard with glyph. The glyph is major and i think her avoid this situation. I'm not clear in english i know. Use glyph to reapply rip it's better.

With pqr my uptime to rip is 90% with your cc sometime 70% ...
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First i got an important question: Do you play with DoC or without? There are two different rotations.

1.) How do you actually pull? Do you switch to cat Form and precast Savage Roar on you? Do hammer the button, so that you got 12-14 seconds Savage Roar if you start the fight?
If you do this, he should apply Rip.
2.) It can take some time to apply Rip, yes, but never that long. (Just while writing i noticed a bug.... if Heroism is up, he wont use Rip! Hell yes, cause he wont use Tiger's Fury if Heroism is up... :) )
Rip waits for Tiger's Fury: if it will come of cooldown within the next 1,9 seconds he will wait, cause its a dps gain then. (I will fix the Heroism bug asap!).
3.) Sorry, i can't understand this point. :-)

It might be that the parts especially for RoRo don't work. I cant test them, cause this Rune wont drop for me. I go into this Raid every week and i always spent 3 runes.... but no success. Until i cant grab it, i cant test it. :X

Btw: What botbase do you use? :C
 
I play with doc

1) Yes my prepull cycle is > HT/Savage roar *2 /prepot/ FS/ and the cc refresh savage roar not apply rip with RoRo. PQR apply RIP directly.
2) look the result. With your CC 70% uptime, with PQR 90%. Whatever which looks, it's major loss dps. The cc don't r?apply rip quickly enough.
3) I swear my dps mono is better with pqr (i compare my log). The only problem with pqr is multicible. Your cc switch auto. Your cc is very good if u make the Uptime of RIP a priority.
I think the cc it's to complicated. Much values... Go back to essential maybe. Go check Cuteone cc in pqr and compare in training dummy. In my opinion, your cc is very great without RoRo, because i'm aggree the savage roar is essential. But with RoRo the uptime of Rip Buffed is THE priority because all your reforge is to maximise RoRo proc. So if u miss 1 or 2 rip buffed by the RoRo, the roro is useless... and the cc is useless to. I'm swear i have seen the cc refresh savage roar with combo point and not r?apply RIP (In RoRo Proc) RoRo fade and the cc dont apply RIP...

I'm use lazyraider; but i'm try also tyrael and the same thing happen.

If u try roro i'm glad to share my account for u testing if u swear don't make anything like steal my gold ;p but i don't sure if u see because the cc is great with training dummies, but in raid situation...


if u have any idea how WOL training dummies, it's possible to me to WOL your cc and pqr. U have a base of compare
 
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I can retest with my cat, but i have tried cuteone stuff, too. My Routines always pulled more dps then his stuff. :)
My Rip uptime was always somewhere between 90 and 94%, which i think is okay. (Ilvl 512)
I can test it again if hb is back up.
 
again considering RoRo. With RoRo your cc is behind Cuteone. Because it's missed to apply rip when use combopt for SR. All cat dps turn over RoRo. It's nothing if u delay rip for SR without RoRo because only DoC it's important and all ur reforge it's a mastery way. But with RoRo your reforge is 1/1/1 for maximizing proc RoRo and so if u miss one, just one, Rip buffed > Major lose dps... For an example, The RoRo proc 8 time. i'm sure with ur cc i miss 2-3 RIP buffed it's to much. I think just ajust one priority, when the RoRo proc RIP and Rake with DoC it's absolu priority.
 
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again considering RoRo. With RoRo your cc is behind Cuteone. Because it's missed to apply rip when use combopt for SR. All cat dps turn over RoRo. It's nothing if u delay rip for SR without RoRo because only DoC it's important and all ur reforge it's a mastery way. But with RoRo your reforge is 1/1/1 for maximizing proc RoRo and so if u miss one, just one, Rip buffed > Major lose dps... For an example, The RoRo proc 8 time. i'm sure with ur cc i miss 2-3 RIP buffed it's to much. I think just ajust one priority, when the RoRo proc RIP and Rake with DoC it's absolu priority.
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I know how the mechanics work, i just dont know if my cc works correctly. Again: i dont own the rune. ;-)
 
So after loading the updated HB and selecting Superbad routine HBV crashes and I get the following message....

"The type initializer for 'Superbad.SuperbadSettings' threw an exception. Al other routines load fine
 
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So after loading the updated HB and selecting Superbad routine HBV crashes and I get the following message....

"The type initializer for 'Superbad.SuperbadSettings' threw an exception. Al other routines load fine
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Delete Hbfolder / Routines / Config :)
 
Yes and i say i share my account if u want.

So i know why PqR dps more, the CC apply rip and rake with RoRo, but if had a time r?apply rip when buff RoRo rest 1-2 seconds, it's reapply!!!. It's just amazing gain dps Tuesday with your cc my max dps as the same p1 in leishen > 184k max, with PqR sometime 220k! Go look Cuteone rotation make the same except for ur ae rotation because ur it's better!
I swear the Pqr rotation with ur config, just amazing! So perfect!!!
I know it's just a copy to Cuteone work, your work it's also great, but PqR it's just perfect!. For another example In pull, pqr take 5sec to apply rip... Your cc... SO LONG.
I hope don't take my return bad. because u make so much for feral community in HB but look into work cuteone and maybe u find a solution.

Pqr rotation with ur config for CD Defensive, movement, and ae > BEST FERAL CC EVER.


In training dummies with superbad 139 : 3 RoRo buff when the cc dont r?apply Rip...
 
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Ooops, it seemed that i used the wrong SpellID to detect RoR proccs. I've uploaded something new. :)
Feel free to try it

Please try again if you got some spare time. It should try to reapply rip and rake now if ror is going to fall off. :)
 
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I got hit by cancer, again. I wont be around for some days/weeks until things are sorted.
I let the routine uploaded, but i cant help with support issues. Cu. :)
 
handnavi said:
I got hit by cancer, again. I wont be around for some days/weeks until things are sorted.
I let the routine uploaded, but i cant help with support issues. Cu. :)
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Oh that's horrible :( .. Take care of yourself, and i hope you have a speedy recovery :)
 
Is anyone else getting this error?
Compiler Error: c:\\Documents\Honor\Routines\Superbad\Main.cs(341,7) : error CS1525: Invalid expression term '>'
Compiler Error: c:\\Documents\Honor\Routines\Superbad\Main.cs(341,14) : error CS1002: ; expected

It's just that over and over. Should I try deleting/installing Superbad again?
ps. I'm sorry to hear about the cancer :(
 
chocomilk said:
Is anyone else getting this error?
Compiler Error: c:\\Documents\Honor\Routines\Superbad\Main.cs(341,7) : error CS1525: Invalid expression term '>'
Compiler Error: c:\\Documents\Honor\Routines\Superbad\Main.cs(341,14) : error CS1002: ; expected

It's just that over and over. Should I try deleting/installing Superbad again?
ps. I'm sorry to hear about the cancer :(
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Delete superbad and the config folder.
Unpack the zip file again and don't update it, auto updater is included.

Do not a svn checkout on the folder !
 
is it ment for PVP?

because i have been useing it for PVP for 2-3 days now and it is going well.

what i want to know if it knows how to use the 4th PVP set bonus?
 
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