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[Official] Statement about Arenas and Battlegrounds

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You can queue up for ashran and not really do shit but run from one event to the next. I can cap honor multiple times a day in ashran.
 
V1R4G3 said:
Sure, they sell the almonds. But nowhere do they specifically state that the almonds are to be ground in the coffee grinder. And they aren't going to jump your ass for grinding them. But if you have a problem, they aren't going to tell you how to fix it.
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Lolz, screw the almonds. Only reason ppl are peed off is because they bought cr's, plugins or what ever aimed at arenas and now they can't be used. It doesn't matter if HB never liked that people were using it for arenas they still sold them. I don't care that we cant use it anymore but lets not delude ourselves thinking it's because of the spirit of competition in arenas. People spotting a train of botters running afk bgbuddy is way more of a issue than someone using a cr in a arena.
 
Influential members of the gaming community aren't concerned with Battlegrounds. Battlegrounds are not competitive PVP. Influential members of the gaming and PVP community; however, ARE tired of kickbots and other automation in competitive PVP. Honorbuddy doesn't need that kind of heat.
 
ccLoaded said:
Lolz, screw the almonds. Only reason ppl are peed off is because they bought cr's, plugins or what ever aimed at arenas and now they can't be used. It doesn't matter if HB never liked that people were using it for arenas they still sold them. I don't care that we cant use it anymore but lets not delude ourselves thinking it's because of the spirit of competition in arenas. People spotting a train of botters running afk bgbuddy is way more of a issue than someone using a cr in a arena.
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They also said that refunds will be issued where deemed reasonable (I think Hawker said it - can't remember really, nor can I find the post) not saying it's specifically related to Arena CR's/plugins, but it might be.
 
@yizo I believe that comment was meant towards players who has purchased a set amount of time on HB (like a 30 day key) and had there accounts banned during it.

@namook I use TuanHA on my AFK Battleground honor farm.
 
V1R4G3 said:
@yizo I believe that comment was meant towards players who has purchased a set amount of time on HB (like a 30 day key) and had there accounts banned during it.

@namook I use TuanHA on my AFK Battleground honor farm.
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same.
 
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@killajosh
I think you guys might be right, I definitely wasn't 100% sure.
 
killajosh said:
If you only use HB for arena, that's on you. It was never advertised as an arena bot...
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You are right it aint advertised as a arena bot. But it is advertised as a bot......... A bot is a program that lets you do what ever you want it to do.
I dont understand this statement, or its just a very week agument for what Bossland+dev are doing. When you go to Honorbuddy the Bot for World of Warcraft (the place you buy HB) it advertises it self as a BOT, which it is ofc ;) There is nothing about not supporting x% of WoW. When ever you buy a bot, wheather it is HB, DB or any other bot, you think it will do what ever the bot is able to do.

Imagen this:
A big BAN wave hit D3, but the vast majority of banned accounts were people that was botting in the new season. Should DB then not allow you to bot in D3 season any more?
 
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kuskner said:
I dont understand this statement, or its just a very week agument for what you are doing. When you go to Honorbuddy the Bot for World of Warcraft (the place you buy HB) it advertises it self as a BOT, which it is ofc ;) There is nothing about not supporting x% of WoW. When ever you buy a bot, wheather it is HB, DB or any other bot, you think it will do what ever the bot is able to do.

Imagen this:
A big BAN wave hit D3, but the vast majority of banned accounts were people that was botting in the new season. Should DB then not allow you to bot in D3 season any more?
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Unless you read actually listen to the devs and BL when they repeatedly tell you it wasn't meant for arena. Just because you can use a product for something doesn't mean it was meant for such usage.

Ever heard of coat-hanger abortions? I'm pretty sure the manufacturers of coat hangers didn't intend for people to kill babies with their products, but people did it anyway.

This argument can go on forever, but the reality of it is BL doesn't want HB in arenas...
 
killajosh said:
Unless you read actually listen to the devs and BL when they repeatedly tell you it wasn't meant for arena. Just because you can use a product for something doesn't mean it was meant for such usage.

Ever heard of coat-hanger abortions? I'm pretty sure the manufacturers of coat hangers didn't intend for people to kill babies with their products, but people did it anyway.

This argument can go on forever, but the reality of it is BL doesn't want HB in arenas...
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I have read a lot about what Bossland+dev are doing, and its there right to do so. But we are still allowed to criticise their decision. Yeah i've heard that myth, you can kill a baby with pretty much any thing. Any way back on topic. When you create a bot for a game, you as a the customer expects it to do every thing you can do in the game, unless something else is posted/written about it. True it stated in the wiki that HB never supported Arena, but supporting it is not the same as not allowing it.
 
killajosh said:
Unless you read actually listen to the devs and BL when they repeatedly tell you it wasn't meant for arena. Just because you can use a product for something doesn't mean it was meant for such usage.

Ever heard of coat-hanger abortions? I'm pretty sure the manufacturers of coat hangers didn't intend for people to kill babies with their products, but people did it anyway.

This argument can go on forever, but the reality of it is BL doesn't want HB in arenas...
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Good, but gross analogy. In before someone says "BUT WAS THERE A COAT HANGER STORE THAT SOLD DIAGRAMS ON HOW TO USE IT FOR ABORTION?!".

Idiocy. Everywhere.
 
kuskner said:
I have read a lot about what Bossland+dev are doing, and its there right to do so. But we are still allowed to criticise their decision. Yeah i've heard that myth, you can kill a baby with pretty much any thing. Any way back on topic. When you create a bot for a game, you as a the customer expects it to do every thing you can do in the game, unless something else is posted/written about it. True it stated in the wiki that HB never supported Arena, but supporting it is not the same as not allowing it.
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By supporting it you mean allowing CRs to be sold? CRs can be used for any PvP, not solely arena. Once again, I may be new, but I was here before the banwave hit and I NEVER saw a CR advertised solely for the arena....
 
killajosh said:
By supporting it you mean allowing CRs to be sold? CRs can be used for any PvP, not solely arena. Once again, I may be new, but I was here before the banwave hit and I NEVER saw a CR advertised solely for the arena....
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No I mean if you dont support Arena, it should not have been allowed from the beginning. Dev team should just not have allowed Enyo to be able to do Arena right from the start, and we would not be here now. But then HB would not have made as much money as they have now, its a business.

Im no programmer, but I think it would be kinda hard and weird to make a CR that only worked in 25% of the game, that is like saying no to more money.
 
kuskner said:
No I mean if you dont support Arena, it should not have been allowed from the beginning. Dev team should just not have allowed Enyo to be able to do Arena right from the start, and we would not be here now. But then HB would not have made as much money as they have now, its a business.

Im no programmer, but I think it would be kinda hard and weird to make a CR that only worked in 25% of the game, that is like saying no to more money.
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Okay, maybe they should have disabled it to begin with. Then again, maybe they didn't expect to find videos on YouTube of 19 bots in arena all running the same frigging patters....
 
killajosh said:
Okay, maybe they should have disabled it to begin with. Then again, maybe they didn't expect to find videos on YouTube of 19 bots in arena all running the same frigging patters....
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True :P But then again, you should code it to be able to take 15+ routes in each BG instead of only making one profile for each BG.
 
ccLoaded said:
You mean a battleground not an arena.
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Yeah, I did. Wasn't paying attention to what I typed lol. Only got 3 hours of sleep last night thanks to my 5 year old :P. I need a nap.

Anyway, if you go to the battle.net forums and search for arena bots, the amount of posts that come up is staggering (over 4k)...
 
killajosh said:
Anyway, if you go to the battle.net forums and search for arena bots, the amount of posts that come up is staggering (over 4k)...
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From EU:
Forum results for Arena bot (876)
Forum results for Arena bots (1,365)
Forum results for BG bot (2,518)
Forum results for Battleground bot (689)
Forum results for Bot (23,472)
Forum results for Bots (28,466)
Forum results for interrupt hack (252)
Forum results for botting in raid (668)
Forum results for hacking (2,793)
Forum results for raid bot (4,525) <- its a joke ;) Bastion of Twilight
 
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