Random old stuff

[Tankadin]

We are already collecting them. It will come .

Its very nice, looking forward for it.

 

[macroon]

YEah +rep as allways..

Was thinking, why dont you have Rupture implemented in this?
Just asking cuz it is a GREAT dot to have up ssince it renews with eviscerate

// M

 

[LilTunechi]

Hi Swiny,

I use this for my rogue on BGBuddy, It bugs up or something as about 5 times out of 10 it just follows the target for ages and does nothing.

I'm using the default rogue CC, is there a better one to use?

 

[Altoids]

LilTunechi... there is a good chance that you're using a spec that the default CC doesn't support. Whenever you have a problem with combat (or lack of it), you should always try 1 or 2 other CCs to see if it's the CC (most likely the case).

IF you try it with multiple CCs and they work without the plugin and don't work with the plugin active, then you need to post the details and include a log (see my signature for details on how to post a log).

 

[swiny]

Ok, 1 more update to using this CC, just FYI
..
For sum reason it does not try and get behind the target anymore OR use backstab, been watching log now for 20 mins during TB dailies..
Just a heads up

// M

im trying to get my Glue plugin to work really well with movements with my CC,
so i will be removing movement in my CC and making that plugin use the movement ( as its by far better to control with )
thats the reason atm, and waiting to re-design glue

ill prob keep working on this tommorow as im way to hung over today lol


Also with Sub, Rupture and Kidney Shot i left out because the rogues i talk to really dont use them what so ever,
KS maybe, but unless i get told otherwise by a high end rogue, and the requirements for them.


Just remember this is made for high end damage

 

[orclocher]

Where do those profiles start when I generated them ?

 

[Dreamstorm]

Where do those profiles start when I generated them ?

Just fly to the zone and it'll find the path on its own.

You may want to manually add the mailboxes and vendors though, as they don't get added by the generator yet.

 

[macroon]

im trying to get my Glue plugin to work really well with movements with my CC,
so i will be removing movement in my CC and making that plugin use the movement ( as its by far better to control with )
thats the reason atm, and waiting to re-design glue

ill prob keep working on this tommorow as im way to hung over today lol


Also with Sub, Rupture and Kidney Shot i left out because the rogues i talk to really dont use them what so ever,
KS maybe, but unless i get told otherwise by a high end rogue, and the requirements for them.


Just remember this is made for high end damage

Ok, cool mate Was just asking in PvP I use Rupture to have DoT on them so they wont stelth, and for me they do 1200dmg /sec for 10 secs..
Anyways, Love this!

Got a Question too, should we put the PvPRogue.suo in sum folder aswell?


Sh

// M

 

[orclocher]

can I use this profiles for PB ?

 

[LowKey]

I am sorry if this was already answered but what exactly is a TSP and what does it do?

Bump

And in addition to his question, what is the cluster settings, exactly. I'm an HB noob, so forgive me, but this seems to be an extremely powerful program you've made here.

Is the conversation so far on TSP saying the higher number will generate a more natural, straight forward route? Or just one that moves extremely randomly? I would prefer one that looks more natural and human obviously.

Also, what is a good amount for a broke college kid to donate?

 

[pr00h]

Why dont the CC use more energy_ It hardly uses abilities at all, which is annoying to see. Other than that it plays fine.

 

[X-Ploit]

how do you not have cata or bc?

 

[feymania]

Someone should make a video on how this works.

 

[swiny]

how do you not have cata or bc?

cause my main account got banned in that sn0wball wave,
and im really not paying for a game i dont play lol

Why dont the CC use more energy_ It hardly uses abilities at all, which is annoying to see. Other than that it plays fine.

energy management...

 

[swiny]

you guys really need to learn to read, ALL the answers are there. in detail.

Also you DONT need to even be in WoW to use this app.

 

[OmniRed]

Swiny -

Here's a basic conceptualization of PVP rotations from a 85 rogue.

Mainhand - Instant Offhand - Crippling

If not stealthed - stealth (if in combat and can not stealth - backstab (trinket)

Sap - if unavailable, Premeditation Ambush - if too far from opponent Shadowstep -(trinket)
If combo points - Slice and dice
If no combo points Backstab - Slice and dice (only need 1-2 points, you dont need the full duration)
Backstab
Kidneyshot at 5cp
Backstab
Backstab
Evicerate at 5cp

EXCEPTION - rupture if rogue or druid

If not behind target - shadowstep - backstab,

OR

If not behind target - Hemorrhage, gouge, move to back - backstab.
If casting harmful spell - Kick if on CD gouge.
If adds - Blind
If DoT's on you when out of combat - cloak of shadows, vanish.

Shadowstep if - infront of target - cheapshot.

Hopefully this helps.

Currently your CC does not use gouge correctly, or at all.
It does not kidneyshot at 5cp (or evicerate if health <20%)

None of the pvp cc's utilize gouge correctly and it's a major tide turner.

 

[OmniRed]

Also - Shiv if enraged
Smokebomb if health = <20%
Sinister strike if - infront of target and hemo is unavailable
If OOC and available - recuperate
use Preparation if Vanish, (etc all the abilities it resets) are on CD
Combat Readiness if IN combat and not on CD
Evasion if 2+ mobs, or health < 40%
Dismantle if available
Redirect if available
Sprint if target distance = X

 

[LowKey]

TSP:
TSP - Controls your route, ( Max Loops to look for a better route )

Ok here is the most complex thing, it controls your routes. it controls how random it is, or how good of a path it creates.
For a fast route and dont care about randomness, The higher the TSP, the less distance it will find, producing a nice route.
For a random route, you enter somewhere from 1mil to 5mil a random number between there ( Depending on how many nodes are selected ) - Pritty simple hey ?

All it takes is time, and you will get use to it the more you fiddle. the better you will understand it.

Clusters:

1. Enabled - To have this Enabled / Disabled.
2. Distance - The distance to which the nodes will be clustered. Say we have 5 nodes around XX ft, it will make that 1 node = less time to travel.
3. Cluster - How many nodes to start clustering at.

This may be crystal clear to the person that coded this, but it may not be to everyone else.

 

[pr00h]

The damage output is just extremely low, id rather see the bot blow all its energy and deal some damage than applying tactics that arent viable anyway in a botting environment. Im constantly barely above healers in terms of my damage output on my rogue in full season 9 gear

 

[PheerPheer]

Also - Shiv if enraged
Smokebomb if health = <20%
Sinister strike if - infront of target and hemo is unavailable
If OOC and available - recuperate
use Preparation if Vanish, (etc all the abilities it resets) are on CD
Combat Readiness if IN combat and not on CD
Evasion if 2+ mobs, or health < 40%
Dismantle if available
Redirect if available
Sprint if target distance = X

Why wouldn't you want to use recuperate while in combat? Sub rogues are suppose to have recuperate going nearly all the time due to getting more energy back from it and if spec'd into Improved Recuperate makes you take 6% less damage.