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PheerPheer said:
Why wouldn't you want to use recuperate while in combat? Sub rogues are suppose to have recuperate going nearly all the time due to getting more energy back from it and if spec'd into Improved Recuperate makes you take 6% less damage.
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Along with giving you 12 energy per tick
Energetic Recovery ( talent )

OmniRed said:
Swiny -

Here's a basic conceptualization of PVP rotations from a 85 rogue.

Mainhand - Instant Offhand - Crippling

If not stealthed - stealth (if in combat and can not stealth - backstab (trinket)

Sap - if unavailable, Premeditation Ambush - if too far from opponent Shadowstep -(trinket)
If combo points - Slice and dice
If no combo points Backstab - Slice and dice (only need 1-2 points, you dont need the full duration)
Backstab
Kidneyshot at 5cp
Backstab
Backstab
Evicerate at 5cp

EXCEPTION - rupture if rogue or druid

If not behind target - shadowstep - backstab,

OR

If not behind target - Hemorrhage, gouge, move to back - backstab.
If casting harmful spell - Kick if on CD gouge.
If adds - Blind
If DoT's on you when out of combat - cloak of shadows, vanish.

Shadowstep if - infront of target - cheapshot.

Hopefully this helps.

Currently your CC does not use gouge correctly, or at all.
It does not kidneyshot at 5cp (or evicerate if health <20%)

None of the pvp cc's utilize gouge correctly and it's a major tide turner.
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it pritty much does everything u said already just missing a couple of things, just remember its still a work in progress....


pr00h said:
The damage output is just extremely low, id rather see the bot blow all its energy and deal some damage than applying tactics that arent viable anyway in a botting environment. Im constantly barely above healers in terms of my damage output on my rogue in full season 9 gear
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if you dont like it, dont use it. simple as that.

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every one is going to have a opinion how to play a rogue, each person plays diffrently.
This is a bot, it isnt a human, saying that i still do have a long way to go.
 
Could you PRETTY please make a talented file for leveling up in BGs with your rogue CC? Also recommended glyphs (@25, @55, @75 etc) that way we can optimize your CC :)
 
Installed your cc correctly, also installed the plugin as mentioned. its loading correctly and the plugin is enabled.

All is set as shown , and bgbuddy is used.

Yet it fails to amaze me how the bot moves, like a bot. When it follows someone, its like, move, stop, move stop, move ... you get it.

its not going around him or anything, just moves, stops till he moves again, then moves again. I expected, from comments in this thread, for

the movement be more fluent. But its far from. Also when its stealthed it takes a long time before ambush is used, most of the time 10 + secs.

it just stands there for a while, then attacks, if allr. Sometimes it does not attack and just follow the target stealthed.

View attachment 3-12-2012_8_49 PM 6948 Log.txt Maybe you can find something in the log? Some help would be appreciated.

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btw bg buddy ( and this is not for you swiny :) ) but are you for real !!

[BGBuddy]: We've gotten to far away from the original target spot. Blacklisting target for 5s and clearing.

so when a target runs, its almost dead, and your to far, he clears and runs back, thats spotting the bot for 6 yr olds.
 
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webhond said:
Installed your cc correctly, also installed the plugin as mentioned. its loading correctly and the plugin is enabled.

All is set as shown , and bgbuddy is used.

Yet it fails to amaze me how the bot moves, like a bot. When it follows someone, its like, move, stop, move stop, move ... you get it.

its not going around him or anything, just moves, stops till he moves again, then moves again. I expected, from comments in this thread, for

the movement be more fluent. But its far from. Also when its stealthed it takes a long time before ambush is used, most of the time 10 + secs.

it just stands there for a while, then attacks, if allr. Sometimes it does not attack and just follow the target stealthed.
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yeah i actually started to remove the movement code in the CC, and will be re-doing Glue as full movement.
i will be starting to work on it today

but it actually sounds like your glue isnt set up correctly :\. mine runs fine.


[BGBuddy]: We've gotten to far away from the original target spot. Blacklisting target for 5s and clearing.

so when a target runs, its almost dead, and your to far, he clears and runs back, thats spotting the bot for 6 yr olds
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belive it or not i actually fully coded a blacklist into my system before i even relised it had a "auto blacklist"
i have talked to the DEV of BGBuddy and he will be removing this shortly.


Code: 
                    // Blacklist these noobs.
                    if (_FleeSW.Elapsed.Seconds > 15)
                    {
                        Blacklist.Add(StyxWoW.Me.CurrentTarget.Guid, TimeSpan.FromMinutes(1));
                    }

                    // If we been chasing for 3 secs return his running
                    if (_FleeSW.Elapsed.Seconds >= 3)
                    {
                        Log.Write("->Enemy Fleeing");
                        return true;
                    }
 
PheerPheer said:
Why wouldn't you want to use recuperate while in combat? Sub rogues are suppose to have recuperate going nearly all the time due to getting more energy back from it and if spec'd into Improved Recuperate makes you take 6% less damage.
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Because in PVP you have... what? like 5-10 seconds to kill someone. I tend to burst toward damage output less than self sustaining abilities.

If you're in that fight for 30 seconds, or whatever duration that makes the energy boost from recuperate worthwhile, you're probably dead soon after.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Yeah i gotta agree a little.. people will be using this for bgs over arenas i think... and burst is best for bgs.. as your going to die anyway
 
OmniRed said:
Because in PVP you have... what? like 5-10 seconds to kill someone. I tend to burst toward damage output less than self sustaining abilities.

If you're in that fight for 30 seconds, or whatever duration that makes the energy boost from recuperate worthwhile, you're probably dead soon after.

Just my 2 cents.
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Energetic Recovery ( talent ) gives u 12 energy per tick.
 
Swizzie said:
I am sorry if this was already answered but what exactly is a TSP and what does it do?
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TSP, I believe is the Travelling Salesman Problem, basically adjusting this figure will set how "hard it thinks" (IE how many different simulations it runs) about your route. Theoretically the higher the number, the shorter the route, although by chance you could also get the best route on the first loop. I hope this helps for people who didn't understand Swiny's response.

P.S. Thanks for this app, and I hope to see more features soon. If I can help by collecting any data, please pm me.
 
Dunno if it's just me but when i SVN i only get a file called SVN-Location downloaded.

EDIT: Tried a diferent fodler and it worked.
 
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OK guys,

Massive news, i now have a Cata account.
what this means, is ill be gathering again, as well as back on honorbuddy alot more.

im already in the progress of re-writing ALOT of MapGen.
you should see some new updates in the next coming days :).

if you want to help out, we still need nodeloggers, Fish Loggers,
People who are willing to help out, by identifying mailbox's with the correct Thing ( Horde, alliance, N) etc.

if you want to help out and make this EVEN better. jump on mirc :)
 
Using this CC my bot never que up for an BG with BGBuddy. Starting honorbuddy, chosing this CC, and its loading the CC blabla and then it just say "Remoting server started" and nothing more happens.

If I use Singular, it will que.
 
id contact some one in the help about that issue man.
 
swiny said:
OK guys,

Massive news, i now have a Cata account.
what this means, is ill be gathering again, as well as back on honorbuddy alot more.

im already in the progress of re-writing ALOT of MapGen.
you should see some new updates in the next coming days :).

if you want to help out, we still need nodeloggers, Fish Loggers,
People who are willing to help out, by identifying mailbox's with the correct Thing ( Horde, alliance, N) etc.

if you want to help out and make this EVEN better. jump on mirc :)
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do u've a plugin for gathering the details? (Fishpools, nodes, etc) if yes, let me know, or send it to me and i can gather some more infos
i've a toon to learn some gather professions
 
trozen said:
Using this CC my bot never que up for an BG with BGBuddy. Starting honorbuddy, chosing this CC, and its loading the CC blabla and then it just say "Remoting server started" and nothing more happens.

If I use Singular, it will que.
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Make sure you have your poisons in your inventory selected in the cc.

If you dont have poisons, it wont Q.

Happened to me this morning be4 going to work, took me a while, just in time before i had to go or another day lost :)
 
request:
Button to reset all nodes to not blacklisted on open MAP
Button to Blacklist all nodes on open MAP
 
Btw, glue is set as mentioned in pic on glue thread, so i guess its allright :)

any idea why i am laggin from time to time, gets me from 60 fps to 10 fps. Happens in bigger bgs and every so seconds.

so far i like this cc, i would love to see a kidney shot in it even the above states its not realy neccesary, maybe you could make an option to

tick or untick it and add it to rotation?
 
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