[PAID] [Priest] Insanity - An Advanced Honorbuddy Shadow Priest Routine [PvE/PvP]

[kingone834]

Hello,

Thank you for this profile that works pretty well.

I'm lost with Cop.
Should I selected a different for each fight?
If so, which one should I use for each boss?
Thank you in advance for your help.

 

[nedbear]

..and you're both using the dot weave rotation? Log files would help to see what's going on.



Ah I see. I'll need a log file for silence/dispel magic issue. DM isn't looking at HoTs, but agree it would be good to have. Will add that in.

indeed, CoP Dotweave, ironically, CoP standard performs better, with mainly only spamming mindspike + mindblast.

 

[Millz]

I was trying dot weave out on heroic imp last night as well. The problem isn't necessarily within the rotation as far as I can tell (yes there is a higher dot weave rotation out there), it's more just that the bot can't anticipate future movement so the dot weave rotatation may not be optimal in certain fights when botting the rotation (assuming y'all have thought of that obv). I've been using the CoP Standard build and am pulling > 80th percentile for my gear.

I'll go ahead and run a quick butcher LFR and report back with logs and dps numbers from both CoP Standard and CoP Dot Weave

Edit:

652 ilvl (9% Crit, 16% Haste, 40% Mastery, 21% Multistrike) CoP Std Rotation with PI & Halo = 23.8k over 2 min 19 seconds (double pot)

652 ilvl (9% Crit, 16% Haste, 40% Mastery, 21% Multistrike) CoP Dot Weave Rotation with PI & Halo = 25.3k over 2 min 25 seconds (single pot)

It would appear the new Dot Weave rotation has been implemented and is dead on (same as SimCraft has me, obv more uptime on hero but I was lagging a bit regardless, also didn't double pot the second time like I did the first...).

Yeah the new rotation is live. Dot Weave is very unforgiving to movement, as it's based around getting x casts in between mind blasts.

MILLZ!!!

Awesome update dude. Well done with this!

Hello,

Thank you for this profile that works pretty well.

I'm lost with Cop.
Should I selected a different for each fight?
If so, which one should I use for each boss?
Thank you in advance for your help.

CoP DoT Weave is the highest single target DPS rotation, but you need to limit movement as much as possible.

CoP Standard is the rotation that blizzard really wanted CoP to be - mind spiking without DoTs, but it dots off-targets, so if you're switching targets mid fight to a unit that has your dots applied already, you suffer from DPS loss.

CoP Lite is the easiest to handle as it doesn't really suffer from changing targets, but isn't optimal DPS.

indeed, CoP Dotweave, ironically, CoP standard performs better, with mainly only spamming mindspike + mindblast.

If you're standing still vs a target dummy with AoE disabled, the dot weave rotation should do more than standard. In a raid scenario though that doesn't happen. You move around, you switch targets, new targets join the fight etc.

 

[thiagorz]

Tested on Warspear dummy DoT weave rotation and CoP Lite. Both are doin the same DPS (17800). No food, no flask. Only shadow form, cooldowns and trnkets.

This is ok?

 

[kingone834]

Thank you for your answer.
So, CoP DoT Weave it's the best for boss like butcher right?
For CoP Standard it's the best for boss like Twin Ogron?
With this profil it's better to have full mastery or full crit?
Because for now I have 51,62% mastery and 12,89% crit for 659 Ilvl.

On the last two boss my dps it's only between 20 and 21K.

 

[nedbear]

Well i am rerolling to something else than priest, because theres not a single CR out there than can perform better than 50 percentile on logs, which is unacceptable for mythic progression.

 

[Millz]

Well i am rerolling to something else than priest, because theres not a single CR out there than can perform better than 50 percentile on logs, which is unacceptable for mythic progression.

Without wanting to sound rude, it's not the CR that's at fault. I'll refer you to the post below.

I was trying dot weave out on heroic imp last night as well. The problem isn't necessarily within the rotation as far as I can tell (yes there is a higher dot weave rotation out there), it's more just that the bot can't anticipate future movement so the dot weave rotatation may not be optimal in certain fights when botting the rotation (assuming y'all have thought of that obv). I've been using the CoP Standard build and am pulling > 80th percentile for my gear.

I'll go ahead and run a quick butcher LFR and report back with logs and dps numbers from both CoP Standard and CoP Dot Weave

Edit:

652 ilvl (9% Crit, 16% Haste, 40% Mastery, 21% Multistrike) CoP Std Rotation with PI & Halo = 23.8k over 2 min 19 seconds (double pot)

652 ilvl (9% Crit, 16% Haste, 40% Mastery, 21% Multistrike) CoP Dot Weave Rotation with PI & Halo = 25.3k over 2 min 25 seconds (single pot)

It would appear the new Dot Weave rotation has been implemented and is dead on (same as SimCraft has me, obv more uptime on hero but I was lagging a bit regardless, also didn't double pot the second time like I did the first...).

Tested on Warspear dummy DoT weave rotation and CoP Lite. Both are doin the same DPS (17800). No food, no flask. Only shadow form, cooldowns and trnkets.

This is ok?

Without knowing the setup/gear/settings etc it's hard to answer this, sorry. Pure single target vs 1 target dummy in range, dot weave should pull higher DPS.

Thank you for your answer.
So, CoP DoT Weave it's the best for boss like butcher right?
For CoP Standard it's the best for boss like Twin Ogron?
With this profil it's better to have full mastery or full crit?
Because for now I have 51,62% mastery and 12,89% crit for 659 Ilvl.

On the last two boss my dps it's only between 20 and 21K.

HowToPriest.com ? View forum - T17 Boss/Talent Discussion <- this is your best resource for fight specific stuff.

 

[theonez]

Hi millz,
i have always performed well in this CR. and anyone who says otherwise just do not understand that the CR is dependable on the fight.


After the update i did some testing for the CR and went for LFR
My current Ilvl is around 673 and can pull 29k+ dps easily on twins by just standing still. (ignoring the fire only) which is fine.
However, my concern is with CoP lite.
When i am raiding i always raid with CoP lite due to mobility issues and thankfully it used to give me 31k+ dps on twins.
BUt after the last 2 updates, i noticed that the CoP lite sometimes use mind spike over the current target (cast not proc). in result, the target lose the current debuffs.
To sum up, Now, the rotation casts debuffs on current target then cast mind spike.

Could you have a look into that.

it is good to mention that I use SoD insteade of insanity in talent, rest are the same.

Much appreciated.
Theonez

 

[Spin]

iLVL is 666 / Stats are: Crit 15% / Haste 12% / Mastery 42%

Just sat on dungoneers target dummy and got about 15.5k dps.. >.> using CoP lite and not sure why my dps is so pitty..
My 620 ilvl warrior can do more dps against it :[

Are shadow priests just broken?
Any talent suggestions? Setting suggestions on insanity would be great

 

[luvobama]

13.5k 654 ilvl on dummy, COP Dot Weave. AOE turned off.

 

[theom99]

Really love the new update you pushed out Millz, always happy to see you put such hard work into your CR.
I'm doing very well with the routine happily raiding mythic with 671 ilvl and pulling a solid 27k-30k dps on fights (my simcraft is about 29k dps, woo!)
But I'm still wondering what the optimal way would be to handle dot settings, currently my 3/1 setting is doing nicely but i was looking for people to give their opinions on it.
Anyway keep up the good work Millz, you put alot of tender love and care into your CR's and know that the community appreciates it. <3

 

[Millz]

Hi millz,
i have always performed well in this CR. and anyone who says otherwise just do not understand that the CR is dependable on the fight.


After the update i did some testing for the CR and went for LFR
My current Ilvl is around 673 and can pull 29k+ dps easily on twins by just standing still. (ignoring the fire only) which is fine.
However, my concern is with CoP lite.
When i am raiding i always raid with CoP lite due to mobility issues and thankfully it used to give me 31k+ dps on twins.
BUt after the last 2 updates, i noticed that the CoP lite sometimes use mind spike over the current target (cast not proc). in result, the target lose the current debuffs.
To sum up, Now, the rotation casts debuffs on current target then cast mind spike.

Could you have a look into that.

it is good to mention that I use SoD insteade of insanity in talent, rest are the same.

Much appreciated.
Theonez

Can you post a log file please? Should only Mind Spike on Surge of Darkness. I've got an idea what could cause it, but the log would help

iLVL is 666 / Stats are: Crit 15% / Haste 12% / Mastery 42%

Just sat on dungoneers target dummy and got about 15.5k dps.. >.> using CoP lite and not sure why my dps is so pitty..
My 620 ilvl warrior can do more dps against it :[

Are shadow priests just broken?
Any talent suggestions? Setting suggestions on insanity would be great

Post a log file please.

Ref: How To Attach a Log

13.5k 654 ilvl on dummy, COP Dot Weave. AOE turned off.

Need a full, unedited log file I'm afraid.

Really love the new update you pushed out Millz, always happy to see you put such hard work into your CR.
I'm doing very well with the routine happily raiding mythic with 671 ilvl and pulling a solid 27k-30k dps on fights (my simcraft is about 29k dps, woo!)
But I'm still wondering what the optimal way would be to handle dot settings, currently my 3/1 setting is doing nicely but i was looking for people to give their opinions on it.
Anyway keep up the good work Millz, you put alot of tender love and care into your CR's and know that the community appreciates it. <3

Cool, nice results. The DoT counts used to matter more because VT returned mana. Since it doesn't any more, the values can be pretty much the same. SimCraft suggests setting both VT and SWP to 5. I'd probably go with 5/5, 3/3, 1/1 - so that if your mana does get low for whatever reason, it doesn't cast as many dots (thus allowing it to regen a bit).

 

[Pyo]

Hey Millz I'm really loving the recent updates tot he CR I'm just wondering if there is any chance of getting a feature to be able to cast DP on focus target if it exists? Just curious because when using the standard CoP rotation on a fight like twins it's going to be a DPS gain if your SW: P, VT and DP are all on say Phemos while you're spamming MS + MB into Pol. At the moment I currently attempt to do this manually with a DP macro, but often get lazy or forgetful during movement phases and hit DP on Pol then clear it off with my next MS cast losing out on DP DoT damage. Just a suggestion. Thanks again for a marvelous CR, Managed 92 percentile for a mythic Kargath kill before the new DoTweave rotation was pushed.

 

[Millz]

Hey Millz I'm really loving the recent updates tot he CR I'm just wondering if there is any chance of getting a feature to be able to cast DP on focus target if it exists? Just curious because when using the standard CoP rotation on a fight like twins it's going to be a DPS gain if your SW: P, VT and DP are all on say Phemos while you're spamming MS + MB into Pol. At the moment I currently attempt to do this manually with a DP macro, but often get lazy or forgetful during movement phases and hit DP on Pol then clear it off with my next MS cast losing out on DP DoT damage. Just a suggestion. Thanks again for a marvelous CR, Managed 92 percentile for a mythic Kargath kill before the new DoTweave rotation was pushed.

Hey - Good shout. It's meant to do Mind Flay when target has DP, but it only works when Insanity is talented at the moment. I'll fix it.

*Edit* I'll make it cast DP on off-targets too. Would probably yield higher DPS.

 

[CTEKJIO]

Millz Today I cant use your CC from BuddyStore. I have paid version. Oracle II shows up. But yours is not. I have checked if it enabled in store. it was. I disabled it and enabled it twice with no result.
Any suggestion on "how to" will be gladly taken. I also removed C:\Users\"USERNAMEHERE\AppData\Local\Bossland\Buddy Store\chash.bin and reload HB no luck...

 

[trashmaster]

Millz Today I cant use your CC from BuddyStore. I have paid version. Oracle II shows up. But yours is not. I have checked if it enabled in store. it was. I disabled it and enabled it twice with no result.
Any suggestion on "how to" will be gladly taken. I also removed C:\Users\"USERNAMEHERE\AppData\Local\Bossland\Buddy Store\chash.bin and reload HB no luck...

Make sure ur shadow specc is active.

 

[CTEKJIO]

Make sure ur shadow specc is active.

Amen! I was in disc Forgot about that.

 

[theonez]

here attached Log

 

[Millz]

here attached Log

Sorry, need full, unedited log files - edited ones don't show all of the required detail

 

[nowyouseeme]

Hey Millz, can you update the opening thread to show the optimal talent setting for all 3 CoP rotations?
Also can you update the optimal setting for the CR specifially? I want to make sure I am using the CR at its highest DPS output.

A user was nice enough to post his setting the way he uses the CR but I was hoping you could post what you reccomend the settings should be. For example Nomnom has his updated settings on his warrior CR. thx!

*EDIT* For Raiding thx!