[PAID] [Priest] Insanity - An Advanced Honorbuddy Shadow Priest Routine [PvE/PvP]

[flyg]

seems no check to see if you the mana available to cast shadow mend. if you dont have the mana routine stops dpsing.

 

[prolike]

does anyone have a good shadow priest cfg?

 

[Millz]

Pretty legendary response time/Fix time. I'll pull down the update and try it out tonight and let you know how it's behaving in the arena environment now. Awesome response time man I can't articulate that enough, really solid build for this early in the changes.

What can I say, I do try

Why are there no default presets? I'm trying to use my ilevel 674 Disc Priest as Shadow in solo-farming Firelands 25-man and it gets killed left and right. It used to work before the Pre-Patch using both Insanity and TuanHA, but after the Pre-Patch it idles all the time using Singular and TuanHA doesn't work at all and Insanity seems to get itself killed on heavy pulls all the time. Doesn't use Power Word: Shield in any logical situations and I can't wrap my head around how to configure it successfully and with the lack of default presets I'm at a complete loss.

I'll create some presets when I get time (unless some kind soul wishes to upload some via the settings manager in the GUI!).

max dots saving for shadow isnt saving. always goes back to 5 and 5.

You sure? HB is down at the moment so can't check but the code looks fine.

Great job with updates so far, you are getting there!

As some have suggested the multi-dot feature should have some rework. you should have the bot cleave on 1-3 targets (maintain SWP and VT at all time and use void bolt on the target with least amount of time on dots) and on 4+ (often thrash) just keep SW up and spam mind sear and use mind blast on CD. I often find myself in situations where the thrash is dead when I'm applying the third VT and almost no dmg done.

Have a look at icy veins and the shadow priest guide to get a better understanding of what I mean.

Thanks for the good work so far

VB is already casting on the unit that has the shortest durations of SWP & VT. It takes into account the travel time for the spell too.

You can change settings to say max VT = 3, and max SWP = whatever.

seems no check to see if you the mana available to cast shadow mend. if you dont have the mana routine stops dpsing.

Fixed this for next build

 

[flyg]

You sure? HB is down at the moment so can't check but the code looks fine.

seems so. change the values for max dots to cast and they change for current session only. quit hb and they go back to 5. The xml configs never change when you change the values either and I cant work out where you storing the 5 value as isnt in there.

Feature request : Have a tick to allow shadow word death cancel casting only for players. Unlike locks that get rewarded with more shards, if you death an npc or a pet in a bg all it really does is use up your CD.

 

[ArChi]

Hello Millz

Did this cc didn't support Elite Combat Bot?
i use Elite Combat Bot he just stand
but i use combat bot this cc is work

can u fix it ? thank you

 

[Robiban]

What can I say, I do try



I'll create some presets when I get time (unless some kind soul wishes to upload some via the settings manager in the GUI!).



You sure? HB is down at the moment so can't check but the code looks fine.



VB is already casting on the unit that has the shortest durations of SWP & VT. It takes into account the travel time for the spell too.

You can change settings to say max VT = 3, and max SWP = whatever.



Fixed this for next build

Yes I can set the bot to cast max 3 VT but if there are 5 or more targets the bot will still apply VT on 3 of them instead of only SW.

A long cleave fight with 3 targets should have 100% uptime on all dots at all times while doing thrash should be bursty AoE dmg with applying SW: P to all of them and then basically spam mind sear while having mind blast and void bolt (if in void form) on cooldown and execute with SW: D.

Shadow Priest DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (Legion 7.0.3) - Icy Veins

I understand if it's alot of work and it wont be perfect over night but to optimize you should consider this

 

[MoobyB]

is there a way to increase mind sear targets? it mind sears on 3 targets.. but if i turn it off and manually just dot cleave 3 targets and single target the main target i get like 10-15k more dps... its probably been said in previous comments but i cba to go through and read every page xD lol.

 

[Millz]

seems so. change the values for max dots to cast and they change for current session only. quit hb and they go back to 5. The xml configs never change when you change the values either and I cant work out where you storing the 5 value as isnt in there.

Feature request : Have a tick to allow shadow word death cancel casting only for players. Unlike locks that get rewarded with more shards, if you death an npc or a pet in a bg all it really does is use up your CD.

Fixed the DoT count not saving in next build.

I'll set SWD to only use against players in BGs/Arenas. No need to cast on anything else.

Hello Millz

Did this cc didn't support Elite Combat Bot?
i use Elite Combat Bot he just stand
but i use combat bot this cc is work

can u fix it ? thank you

Sounds like an issue with ECB. Are other rotations working with ECB?

Yes I can set the bot to cast max 3 VT but if there are 5 or more targets the bot will still apply VT on 3 of them instead of only SW.

A long cleave fight with 3 targets should have 100% uptime on all dots at all times while doing thrash should be bursty AoE dmg with applying SW: P to all of them and then basically spam mind sear while having mind blast and void bolt (if in void form) on cooldown and execute with SW: D.

Shadow Priest DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (Legion 7.0.3) - Icy Veins

I understand if it's alot of work and it wont be perfect over night but to optimize you should consider this

The max units to DoT means it'll cast VT on 3 units - not - don't cast VT if there's more than X units.

is there a way to increase mind sear targets? it mind sears on 3 targets.. but if i turn it off and manually just dot cleave 3 targets and single target the main target i get like 10-15k more dps... its probably been said in previous comments but i cba to go through and read every page xD lol.

Change the full AoE unit count value up - top left corner of the shadow tab.

 

[ArChi]

Hello Millz

"Sounds like an issue with ECB. Are other rotations working with ECB?"

Yes. TuanHA & Singular work on ECB, tonight i will test your anther CC will have same problem
thank you for your cc it make me still use HB

 

[Millz]

A new public build has been pushed to the store, and is currently awaiting approval from the Bossland GmbH staff. This can take up to 3 business days.

[15/Aug/2016 - Alpha]
- Fixed rotation locking up when Shadow Mend can't cast due to lack of mana.
- Fixed an issue with max dots to cast value not saving correctly.
- SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas.

 

[Millz]

Hello Millz

"Sounds like an issue with ECB. Are other rotations working with ECB?"

Yes. TuanHA & Singular work on ECB, tonight i will test your anther CC will have same problem
thank you for your cc it make me still use HB

Let me know, and if it's still not working I'll have a word with Cokx.

 

[Robiban]

The max units to DoT means it'll cast VT on 3 units - not - don't cast VT if there's more than X units.

Exactly and this should be customizable.

There are situations where you wouldnt want to apply any VT att all to be maximizing dps. Im talking about cluster thrash thats bursted down in seconds, like the boss in brf that has a bunch of animals spawned..

I dont know how complex it would be for you as im no coder but i think its a nice option to have. Just trying to help you improve the routine

 

[user42]

"- SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas. "

Not ideal, how about for levelling? We want to use SWD always on cooldown for levelling please against non players mobs when using Questing Bot. Currently Singular doesn't ever use it so I was rather hoping that this routine might be better at using it since I have already bought it.

Thank you for considering this requested change (back).

 

[flyg]

"- SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas. "

Not ideal, how about for levelling? We want to use SWD always on cooldown for levelling please against non players mobs when using Questing Bot. Currently Singular doesn't ever use it so I was rather hoping that this routine might be better at using it since I have already bought it.

Thank you for considering this requested change (back).

the change is only in bgs and arenas i would assume. two ways to read it I read it as "SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas." implying outside of bg and arenas its no different than its always been (i.e. on CD when outside of arenas and bgs).

 

[Millz]

Exactly and this should be customizable.

There are situations where you wouldnt want to apply any VT att all to be maximizing dps. Im talking about cluster thrash thats bursted down in seconds, like the boss in brf that has a bunch of animals spawned..

I dont know how complex it would be for you as im no coder but i think its a nice option to have. Just trying to help you improve the routine

I'll change the logic to match what Icy Veins is suggesting.

Shadow Priest DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (Legion 7.0.3) - Icy Veins

3.1.2. Against 4 or More Targets


When you begin having many targets, Mind Flay Icon Mind Flay is removed entirely in favor of Mind Sear Icon Mind Sear. Additionally, you will not have enough time to place both Shadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch on every target. Which DoT you should prefer to cast will largely depend on your tier 5 talent selection. If you have chosen San'layn, you will want to prioritise Vampiric Touch on all targets. If you have chosen Auspicious Spirits or Shadowy Insight, you will want to prioritise Shadow Word: Pain on all targets.

"- SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas. "

Not ideal, how about for levelling? We want to use SWD always on cooldown for levelling please against non players mobs when using Questing Bot. Currently Singular doesn't ever use it so I was rather hoping that this routine might be better at using it since I have already bought it.

Thank you for considering this requested change (back).

the change is only in bgs and arenas i would assume. two ways to read it I read it as "SWD is now only used against players in BGs and Arenas." implying outside of bg and arenas its no different than its always been (i.e. on CD when outside of arenas and bgs).

This ^

Only applies inside BGs/Arenas. Anywhere else it'll act the same as before.

 

[Robiban]

I'll change the logic to match what Icy Veins is suggesting.

Shadow Priest DPS Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities (Legion 7.0.3) - Icy Veins

Maybe the best way to implement it would be to have separate options for single target, cleaving and aoe where cleaving is maintaining all dots on all available targets and AoE is what Icy veins suggests for 4 or more targets. There might be situations where you want to apply as many of all dots as possible (PvP?). This way you dont have to change the the core all the time someone complains but rather have the user being able to use what fits them the most at the moment. Better you let it take some time and do it the best way at once than just rushing it

cheers!

 

[flyg]

Got the new build - since the mana change for shadowmend it doesn't seem to be casting it at all if you are below the hp limit.

 

[Millz]

Maybe the best way to implement it would be to have separate options for single target, cleaving and aoe where cleaving is maintaining all dots on all available targets and AoE is what Icy veins suggests for 4 or more targets. There might be situations where you want to apply as many of all dots as possible (PvP?). This way you dont have to change the the core all the time someone complains but rather have the user being able to use what fits them the most at the moment. Better you let it take some time and do it the best way at once than just rushing it

cheers!

If there's 4 or more units gathered around your target then you're going to be better off mind searing anyway regardless of the situation. Appreciate where you're coming from, but for the 99%, people will just keep posting on this thread asking how to set it up.

Got the new build - since the mana change for shadowmend it doesn't seem to be casting it at all if you are below the hp limit.

Doh. Will try again

 

[Rossignol]

Mind Sear

The max units to DoT means it'll cast VT on 3 units - not - don't cast VT if there's more than X units.



Change the full AoE unit count value up - top left corner of the shadow tab.

I don't know if I'm missing something but I do not have any way to change the number of mind sear targets in the GUI. I have been editing the <Shadow_AoEHighUnitCount>X</Shadow_AoEHighUnitCount> value.

Good job on the Routine anyway.

 

[Robiban]

If there's 4 or more units gathered around your target then you're going to be better off mind searing anyway regardless of the situation. Appreciate where you're coming from, but for the 99%, people will just keep posting on this thread asking how to set it up.

I guess that's true.

I've been doing a little bit more testing today on my 3 garrison targets. The routine doesn't keep dots applied on multiple targets when in voidform and always casts void bolt on the same target even if there are other targets with VT/SW. This might be because of the priorities in voidform and no time given to re-apply dots that has fallen off but if it's a huge dps loss if the dots fall of in cleave fight during void form.. Maybe also check that all dots applied are above at least 5 seconds before entering voidform? That way it wont be needed to re-apply any dots in voidform?

Sorry for being a bugger but i'm planning to raid mythic with this and dont want to fall behind