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[PAID] [Mage] Portal - An Advanced Honorbuddy Mage Routine [PvE/PvP]

dilbog said:
I used this routine and arcane all the way up to Imperator mythic (played him manual because of issue with ice flows) and it is working mostly ok. I control lvl 75, 100 talents and burst myself. never trust the bot to use PC it will just mess it up but there is a mouse over hot key that helps a lot.
For fire not sure not bothered to look at it yet but going on performance in the past I hope we wont need to use it, experimental rotation is the rotation you will want to use, But am hoping with the 11.1% increase haste incoming frost might be better, wont know until it gets simed and I doubt it will come anywhere near multistrike but frost has always benefited from haste the most so fingers crossed.
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What do you mean by controlling the burst yourself for arcane? Do you pause the routine and do the burn phase yourself?

I'm also looking for a way to have some more control over the burn phase but the only way I've found is to pause the routine about 10 seconds before evo is up and manually control the burn phase. For example, if the boss needs to be moved soon (and we're using PC) or we want to wait a little extra for lust, the routine won't know this and just enter burn phase whenever evo is close to coming off cd. That makes sense since there's no way of it to know this but I think it would be a nice feature to have some toggleable hotkey to toggle the arcane burst on/off manually.
 
For some reason it is not casting arcane missiles watched it cast 10 arcane blast while missiles sitting at 3 stacks then to top it off it cast evocation and then dumped the arcane charges and lost missile charges before building arcane charges . why?
It's not using prismatic crystal sometimes but I think this is linked to it trying to save it for other cool downs but it's a 1.5 min cool down unlike arcane power 3min it's plane silly to try and line them up all the time and a massive dps loss. plus we kinda know our self's what to do and when I doubt anyone lets it use them on cooldown as that would be very sub optimal. For pc useage in between arcane power usage it should only be looking for 2 supernova and 4 charges which it would have if it was not dumping arcane charges all the time.
I had to stop it tonight and play manual it was costing so much damage, I was getting beat by a frost mage 10 ilvl's lower. Even controlling lvl 75 & 100 talents myself it became to much hassle to pause it all the time.

Thanks
 
Okay, did some testing on training dummy. I used no burst at all, just normal rotation.

Tested DPS until 4M Damage done on my ilvl 682 mage. Only Self Buffs.

CC did 26.5k dps, i myself did 29.2k dps.

My obversavations of improvements:
- CC is not using Arcane Missiles during BURN-Phase, which is a mistake, since ur wasting many new AM-Proccs aswell -> BURN-Phase: AM > Spam AB > 45-50% mana -> Evocation (usually 2 ticks at 4 charges is enough for 100% mana).
- CC is using one AB too much in Conserve-Phase. In WoD until haste levels are better, it's necessary to stay at 89%+ mana at all times (except when Evo is <20secs remaining). CC is doing 1 AB too much, getting low to 80% mana, which is also a dps loss.

Have to get burst mode working now, to check that, but so far i would _easily_ out-dps the CC in raids.

Supernova management on the other hand is fine so far, even tho it should be configurable, that both charges are used, since we loose always couple of seconds on overlapping SN's.

Can try to find out more during the 2-day trial. :o
 
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I finally bought this - thank you. One question, I am running some old content, and would love for it to ignore the mobs, at least till there is a ton. Right now it waists a lot of time killing everything within range. Is there a way to stop that?
 
Voidreg said:
^^^
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There's an option to use SN with 4 stacks of IF, but not to use PC when 4/5x IF... or SN on PC & 4x IF.

dilbog said:
For some reason it is not casting arcane missiles watched it cast 10 arcane blast while missiles sitting at 3 stacks then to top it off it cast evocation and then dumped the arcane charges and lost missile charges before building arcane charges . why?
It's not using prismatic crystal sometimes but I think this is linked to it trying to save it for other cool downs but it's a 1.5 min cool down unlike arcane power 3min it's plane silly to try and line them up all the time and a massive dps loss. plus we kinda know our self's what to do and when I doubt anyone lets it use them on cooldown as that would be very sub optimal. For pc useage in between arcane power usage it should only be looking for 2 supernova and 4 charges which it would have if it was not dumping arcane charges all the time.
I had to stop it tonight and play manual it was costing so much damage, I was getting beat by a frost mage 10 ilvl's lower. Even controlling lvl 75 & 100 talents myself it became to much hassle to pause it all the time.

Thanks
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JayK said:
Okay, did some testing on training dummy. I used no burst at all, just normal rotation.

Tested DPS until 4M Damage done on my ilvl 682 mage. Only Self Buffs.

CC did 26.5k dps, i myself did 29.2k dps.

My obversavations of improvements:
- CC is not using Arcane Missiles during BURN-Phase, which is a mistake, since ur wasting many new AM-Proccs aswell -> BURN-Phase: AM > Spam AB > 45-50% mana -> Evocation (usually 2 ticks at 4 charges is enough for 100% mana).
- CC is using one AB too much in Conserve-Phase. In WoD until haste levels are better, it's necessary to stay at 89%+ mana at all times (except when Evo is <20secs remaining). CC is doing 1 AB too much, getting low to 80% mana, which is also a dps loss.

Have to get burst mode working now, to check that, but so far i would _easily_ out-dps the CC in raids.

Supernova management on the other hand is fine so far, even tho it should be configurable, that both charges are used, since we loose always couple of seconds on overlapping SN's.

Can try to find out more during the 2-day trial. :o
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I'll reply to both of these together as they're similar. Appreciate the comments - makes the routine better for all.

AM -> It's using simc's logic at the moment to (when in burn phase) cast on 3 stacks of AM proc, or if you have >= 1 proc and mana is above 70%... I've noticed a small typo in the code, so I'll get that fixed, but that's the theory behind my logic. I found if you keep using the AM procs then it gets too out of sync with evocation/PC, and you end up sitting on the cooldowns for a long time.

actions.burn+=/arcane_missiles,if=buff.arcane_missiles.react=3
actions.burn+=/arcane_missiles,if=buff.arcane_charge.stack=4&(mana.pct>70|!cooldown.evocation.up)

AB in conserve -> It's just set to keep casting whenever our mana is above 93%. I'll check this out though and make sure it's not because of spell queueing.

actions.conserve+=/arcane_blast,if=buff.arcane_charge.stack=4&mana.pct>93

NickK said:
I finally bought this - thank you. One question, I am running some old content, and would love for it to ignore the mobs, at least till there is a ton. Right now it waists a lot of time killing everything within range. Is there a way to stop that?
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The bot base will call the combat routine to attack every time it gets in combat. No way to ignore that I believe. It'll be the bot base which needs to stop the CR from activating though.
 
Pushed a new build, waiting for approval.

[14/Jan/2015]
- [Arcane] Fixed Arcane Orb conditions.
- [Arcane] Added a fix for Evocation not casting quick enough.
- [Arcane] Added cast frost nova replacement talent when Evocation CD > 20s.
- [Arcane] Added racial on burn phase setting.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Missile usage.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Blast in conserve phase.
- Added some debugging for Ice Block.
- [Fire] Fixed an issue with the 'experimental rotation' usage of Pyroblast.
 
Millz said:
Pushed a new build, waiting for approval.

[14/Jan/2015]
- [Arcane] Fixed Arcane Orb conditions.
- [Arcane] Added a fix for Evocation not casting quick enough.
- [Arcane] Added cast frost nova replacement talent when Evocation CD > 20s.
- [Arcane] Added racial on burn phase setting.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Missile usage.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Blast in conserve phase.
- Added some debugging for Ice Block.
- [Fire] Fixed an issue with the 'experimental rotation' usage of Pyroblast.
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love u. will test tomorrow <3
 
Millz said:
Pushed a new build, waiting for approval.

[14/Jan/2015]
- [Arcane] Fixed Arcane Orb conditions.
- [Arcane] Added a fix for Evocation not casting quick enough.
- [Arcane] Added cast frost nova replacement talent when Evocation CD > 20s.
- [Arcane] Added racial on burn phase setting.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Missile usage.
- [Arcane] Tuning to Arcane Blast in conserve phase.
- Added some debugging for Ice Block.
- [Fire] Fixed an issue with the 'experimental rotation' usage of Pyroblast.
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Hopefully it's appproved until my raid tomorrow, would try it there.
 
Can you check stop casting logic for mythic twins? log attached - got silenced three times in one fight.

Edit - the fight is at end of the log. Also arcane power isn't going off on CD. why?
 

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lve2raft said:
Can you check stop casting logic for mythic twins? log attached - got silenced three times in one fight.

Edit - the fight is at end of the log. Also arcane power isn't going off on CD. why?
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You need to be targeting Pol for it to stop casting. If you're targeting Phemos it won't work. Spent ages trying to get that to work for all units but it kept bugging out and cancelling cast on spells which weren't bad.
 
The update hasn't been approved yet. Had expected it to have been done by now, but I know the team are busy working hard on a new HB update. Hopefully it won't be too much longer.
 
Hey Millz,

do you think you could add an option for supernove to be used when prismatic cristal is up? Or do you think that wouldn't be wise usage?

Thanks
 
Melendir said:
Hey Millz,

do you think you could add an option for supernove to be used when prismatic cristal is up? Or do you think that wouldn't be wise usage?

Thanks
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Hey

That option is already built in :)

Cheers
 
Millz said:
You need to be targeting Pol for it to stop casting. If you're targeting Phemos it won't work. Spent ages trying to get that to work for all units but it kept bugging out and cancelling cast on spells which weren't bad.
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Well that would explain it! Good to know :)

Did you see the slow usage of Arcane Power? Does on CD toggle mean use the second it comes off CD?
 
lve2raft said:
Well that would explain it! Good to know :)

Did you see the slow usage of Arcane Power? Does on CD toggle mean use the second it comes off CD?
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Arcane Power has forced conditions along with the settings. So ontop of the settings you need to have 4 arcane charges, and you need to be in the burn phase. The only time these conditions are skipped are when burst is enabled.

So on Boss or Player, it checks target is boss or player, we have 4 charges, and in burn phase.

Cheers
 
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