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[PAID] [Mage] Portal - An Advanced Honorbuddy Mage Routine [PvE/PvP]
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Most of the settings are down to personal preference. You're best off setting the routine up to suit yourself. PvP with mages requires a decent amount of manual control and hotkey usage.
Unrelated -> Busy tuning frost spec, seeing some pretty decent results. My gear sucks, but..
Pushed a new build - waiting for approval. I've gone through all of the guides and theory crafting posts I can find, and the routine *should* be following all of the general rules. The DPS seems a lot stronger than it was.
Any chance on making a tut on setting it up for PVP, i gotta it running in PvP atm and it does not work well.
Most of the settings are down to personal preference. You're best off setting the routine up to suit yourself. PvP with mages requires a decent amount of manual control and hotkey usage.
Unrelated -> Busy tuning frost spec, seeing some pretty decent results. My gear sucks, but..
Pushed a new build - waiting for approval. I've gone through all of the guides and theory crafting posts I can find, and the routine *should* be following all of the general rules. The DPS seems a lot stronger than it was.
This damage is for PVP? PVE? In Burst? Pull or unitarget?
Can you put settings? I have 641 ítem level and unitarget boss cant make moré that 17K
Millz
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I think it was default PvE file, I was toggling cooldowns a LOT to sync them up and store before bosses. I'm using Frost Bomb, the damage from it is incredible. Ice Nova is good for that quick burst but Frostbomb's 'trick' usage (which is coded in now) yields higher DPS.
What's the issues you're having in PvP? You need to control certain stuff manually in PvP, like frost nova, blink, polymorph etc if you want it to be successful. Fully automated mage PvP just doesn't work.
PvE, 3 unit trash pull, frost bomb, crystal, and frozen orb used. Burst to 70k, finished pack at the above. ilvl 600ish.
I was finishing single target bosses on around 11-13k.
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You can trial both via the buddy store. Option to trial appears once you login to the store. You can then decide for yourself which better suits your needs.
Hello, in the new update the CC seems to be faster, and also the best point about it is that CC doesn't w8 for PC to be placed if it is out of CD.
I tried couple of dungeons and I felt the improvment, but the only problem was that sometimes, when I have 2FoF+BF ready bot keeps casting frostbolt over and over without casting frost bomb, is this intentional ? imma post a log below.
I tried couple of dungeons and I felt the improvment, but the only problem was that sometimes, when I have 2FoF+BF ready bot keeps casting frostbolt over and over without casting frost bomb, is this intentional ? imma post a log below.
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First off, I am happy to say that I have been raiding with a priest and a mage since MoP using Insanity and Portal with very good success.
I ran through the first 3 bosses of Highmaul yesterday and was a little disappointed with my damage and looking for some help. The routine seems to be working fine, but out of the 5 frost mages running in the group I was consistently one of the lowest dmg/dps wise in the group. Three of us ran with Ice Nova, Mirror Immage and Thermal Void (issues with PC placement and use) as recommended by our guild leader and pretty much the top dps as a mage on every one of our bosses since MoP. There were two that ran with PC. I don't have the logs to post here, but just looking at our SKADA/Recount after each fight our Ice Lance, Frostbolt, and Mirror Image damage is fairly close. The biggest difference in damage seems to be from Ice Nova. On the Butcher fight, my ice nova was cast only 8 times compared to 19 and 17 for the top two dps, who were both frost mages with my same talents and glyphs. I would constantly look down and see two stacks of the Ice Nova ready to go and it just would not cast it instead casting frostbolt.
Does anyone mind sharing their settings they have had better success with?
Thanks.
EC
I ran through the first 3 bosses of Highmaul yesterday and was a little disappointed with my damage and looking for some help. The routine seems to be working fine, but out of the 5 frost mages running in the group I was consistently one of the lowest dmg/dps wise in the group. Three of us ran with Ice Nova, Mirror Immage and Thermal Void (issues with PC placement and use) as recommended by our guild leader and pretty much the top dps as a mage on every one of our bosses since MoP. There were two that ran with PC. I don't have the logs to post here, but just looking at our SKADA/Recount after each fight our Ice Lance, Frostbolt, and Mirror Image damage is fairly close. The biggest difference in damage seems to be from Ice Nova. On the Butcher fight, my ice nova was cast only 8 times compared to 19 and 17 for the top two dps, who were both frost mages with my same talents and glyphs. I would constantly look down and see two stacks of the Ice Nova ready to go and it just would not cast it instead casting frostbolt.
Does anyone mind sharing their settings they have had better success with?
Thanks.
EC
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Okay so maybe it would be better for me to ask, what should I control and what should the routine control. Currently I control, spell steal, poly, ROF. I let the bot control my burst on a hotkey for arenas and in BG's I let the routine use the auto burst. Anyways say I start controlling my pets feeze which actually is good for CC but it is also a good thing to use to get some procs to start my burst. How does the routine handle the burst, does it know when I have my trinket procked etc? I guess im just confused on how much faith im putting into the routine. Really do not know what it is capable of in PvP. Maybe if you could explain it a bit, it may make more sense what this routine can actually do. It says its can do PvP but ideally what can it really do in PvP. It seems as the prismatic crystal is best in PvP at the moment, hows the rotation for PvP coded.Sorry for throwing alot at you but answer what you can/ understand what I asked. What I REALLY want to know is what is the PvP routine capable of and what should I control and what should the routine control. Idk if I knew logically how the bot was thinking it would make more sense. Im a programmer as well so, what is the routines mindset in a sense.
P.S. I private messaged you a really good PvP mage rotation.
Problems:
1. I am using stop casting macros for my pet freeze as well as my prismatic crystal and the routine wont let me get either down it keeps trying to cast something else. Why is this? I am going to see if its because I dont have "stop for manual button press" checked but stopcasting macros should override the routines cast and instead the routine fights back until it gets what it wants casted. Theirs alot of variables on the table. It may be helpful to me and other PvPers that would enjoy using this for PvP, if you could post images of each tab of the routine panel showing what is "Ideal" to be checked when pvping, whether its arenas or bgs, that would be very helpful im sure.
2. For some odd reason, the bot still tries to cast when im trying to run away, say im trying to run around a pillar because im close to death, my run gets slowed down because the bot is trying to cast.I am sure you know what im saying, you essentialy look like a broken bot lol, I am not specced into icy flow. nor do I have cast Ice lance when moving. My mages hands stay blue because its trying to cast and it keeps saying I cannot target that, I cannot target that(red spam WoW simulation in the top middle of the screen), I also have targeting off. I do th targeting manually.
3. Also prismatic crystal for some reason is not getting placed on burst enabled, in result frozen orb is thrown at the target without the crystal there, resulting in a big chunk of burst lost due to dmg loss and procs not getting procced to than continue on bursting.
I will post a log tomorrow after I try and configure this routine more and try and get it working better. It just does feel as enjoyable as other routines in PvP. I would be more than happy to help out to the best of my ability.
Solution.
I think a pretty good solution to all this was stated before, just post an image or text of how the routine will get the best dps in PvP, so just letting the PvP community who do use this or want to potentially use this can use it and excel in PvP. So what should be checked absolutely and what should not be checked. Yes I know their is a guide on the post for PvP but that is significantly out of date.
I will post a log tomorrow, not trying to bitch and complain, but the sole purpose I bought this was for PvP , I can PvE on my own but with PvP you need reaction time and thats where the bot can excel over any human.(should excel). Like I said I would be more than happy to help. I did check this routine out in PvE its good work, love your work and hopefully you will be able to assist me and vice versa.
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Hey yeh ive noticed it with the ice nova and the frost bomb, both for me don't go off in the middle of fights at the begining they do but it seems like i have to manually press it to go off.
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If anybody can take clear screenshots of whats ticked in the boxes etc for them along with rotations etc would be extremely helpful!
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If anybody can take clear screenshots of whats ticked in the boxes etc for them along with rotations etc would be extremely helpful!
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Think it's the spell queuing that's causing it. Will fix in next build.
Thermal Void isn't great at the moment, would be much better off with prismatic crystal.
I'll add some debugging in for Ice Nova. Can you post a log file? Want to see what settings you have and where it's using it.
I've discovered a bug with World of Logs that's reporting pet damage incorrectly. It may be affecting in game meters too. Would occur whenever there's more than 1 mage in the group.
Another couple of weeks probably. Once I've finished ironing out bugs etc.
That's a long post !
1) You'll need manual cast detection enabled to do it manually, but you're better off using the hotkey in the routine. It'll cast the spell and click it wherever your mouse is in game. Press and hold key combination until it activates.
2) There's no facing checks for casting spells. I'd need to add this check onto every ability. I can do it if it's super critical though.
3) Try using the cooldowns toggle instead. FO and PC are both controlled by the cooldown hotkey. When you activate burst it'll enable cooldowns also. So disable cooldowns with hotkey. Then when you wish to burst, enable burst hotkey.
As for writing a guide, I can eventually, but my time is taken up on trying to tune stuff at the moment. I'm working on code stuff over my various products from waking up until going to bed at the moment. Plenty of trial and error playing with settings is your best option at the moment. Most of the settings are self explanatory.
Hey yeh ive noticed it with the ice nova and the frost bomb, both for me don't go off in the middle of fights at the begining they do but it seems like i have to manually press it to go off.
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If anybody can take clear screenshots of whats ticked in the boxes etc for them along with rotations etc would be extremely helpful!
Can you post a log file please? Cheers
Yesterday 636 item gear and kill first 3 boss, always top 3 of my guild in normal, averague 20k in boss.
So, yes bot working very well but is true that manually i can get 22-24k averague in same boss.
Sometimes the char stop how if cast something and no can
So, yes bot working very well but is true that manually i can get 22-24k averague in same boss.
Sometimes the char stop how if cast something and no can
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Not sure if this is the right one but yeh i don't know if i have it set up properly id prefer it if i had somebodys picture or something to go off like whats ticked and what not,
Not sure if this is the right one but yeh i don't know if i have it set up properly id prefer it if i had somebodys picture or something to go off like whats ticked and what not,
That would be because prismatic crystal is considered a boss by the CR