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Fighting Back: Privacy issues arising from the ban

Will you be submitting a data protection request to Blizzard?

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widds said:
I submitted a ticket directly to Blizzard referencing two California laws about PII data collection (which things like name and IP address fall under) as well as EULAs not being a legal approval for companies to infringe on privacy rights. Ticket response from Blizzard CS was a typical pre-canned response that they had proof that I was botting (very specific with botting, I noticed some other responses not referencing botting but I've saved this conversation for evidence) and they could not overturn it. Gave me the email to Blizzard legal. Emailed them the same letter I wrote to Blizzard CS and am awaiting a response. Depending on the response I am prepared to enlist in the services of a legal representative. I'm not going to go overboard with what I'm looking for.. I'll keep it related to the laws that California fall under (Blizzard HQ also falls under California law being headquartered in the state).
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Your keep referencing your attempt to get your account back..

This thread is really irrelevant regarding this that matter- In fact going down this path would more the likely result in a permanent closure of ALL your battle.net accounts.

This post is in reference to insuring blizzard has not broken any laws in a said country in regards to privacy- in some countries it appears they may have...

So basically- if your wow account is your concern here and getting it unbanned- this thread is NOT for you.

if you privacy is a concern- and want to ensure blizzard have not breached your privacy in your country- this tread IS for you.
 
I don't know, I was told once by a superior court judge, once. when you are right, you are right. there might be some meat to this, but it would require everyone working together. but again, it might by why they chose to do a 6 month ban, and not permanently delete accounts.
 
roboto said:
OP is actually right on this. in all eu countries you got some sort of law giving you a right to get information all about your personal data saved by any company.

this law has to be ratified by each eu member, based on the European Directive 95/46/EG
ref:
DIRECTIVE 95/46/EC OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL
EUR-Lex - 31995L0046 - EN

naming may vary in the eu countries:
Germany: Richtlinie 95/46/EG (Datenschutzrichtlinie) – Wikipedia (Ratified 2002)
Austria: Datenschutzgesetz 2000 – Wikipedia (Ratified 2014)
France: Loi n° 2004-801 du 6 août 2004 relative à la protection des personnes physiques à l'égard des traitements de données à caractère personnel et modifiant la loi n° 78-17 du 6 janvier 1978 relative à l'informatique, aux fichiers et aux libertés | Legifr
Ireland: Data Protection (Amendment) Act 2003 enacted on 10 April 2003, Ratified 2003

You can look up your own country here:
Status of implementation of Directive 95/46 on the Protection of Individuals with regard to the Processing of Personal Data - Justice

I did that myself at a few companies just for fun, try it at amazon for example, it's some sort of amazing what data they might got on you.
Blizz has to answer on this, however, since virtual game characters are not persons itself, i doubt any information about bans and detections will be exposed.


so, tl;dr:
YES, you got the right to request information about the personal data saved about you
YES, the company you're requesting that data from HAS to respond within a given time
YES, you can to this at any company which got a settlement in EU (for wow eu, the legal holder is blizzard france)
BUT, I doubt it will include any of your game characters information
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Some countries in EU have there own laws when concerning privacy(privacy comission). I assume the people in Belgium have watched the news last week? There government are actually making a case against Facebook because of datamining user information in the background. If they can do it with adjusting there rules with vague information, so can and will blizzard. I believe facebook has even more resources than Blizzard, no ? If a country says no in the EU, this means NO.

The catch behind it is that the company, in this case blizzard needs to have a site located in its country(Belgium rules). This is sadly not the case i guess. But since the base of operation is in Francefor EU, i would guess the HB users in France could report this privacy matter onto there privacy comission and start from there.

If you think Blizzard did this detection suddenly via a legal way, think again over what FB is doing. It might not be done legally.

Clicking a checkbox for a EULA means nothing imo. If my handwritten signature or digital counterpart(cosign) is not under a document then it is not valid.
 
My eyes hurt after reading all this. so far for me Blizz have responded to all my tickets trying to find out exactly what I did wrong. All i'm getting at the moment is that I was engaged in exploitative behavior. No mentions of botting specifically.
 
nooblet said:
My eyes hurt after reading all this. so far for me Blizz have responded to all my tickets trying to find out exactly what I did wrong. All i'm getting at the moment is that I was engaged in exploitative behavior. No mentions of botting specifically.
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Yeah, and depending on where you live that lack of transparency is against the law.
 
eigoteacher said:
Funny how everyone only cares about fighting privacy issues after they've been banned.
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You mean after blizzard broke the LAW ?

I don't give a crap about a couple of botting accounts...

I do care the blizzard thinks they can do what they want...

If there is a legal avenue to go down- I'm going down it..

In Australia you don't need money, you just need to prove your point.
 
Please considering that the EU Adress (France) isn't right.

Blizzard Entertainment Europe
Legal Department
145, rue Yves Le Coz
78000 Versailles
France
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After Request, this is the good adress:

Blizzard Entertainment SAS
Service Juridique
145, rue Yves Le Coz
78000 Versailles
France
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Jesus dude that's one thoroughly extensive post. The problem is that most of the people who will do this are just upset they got banned. They didn't care until they had negative reinforcement. That said, you are correct in that if something is personally identifying information you always have some control over how it is used. The thing is we probably waived those specific rights as well. Look at what the EU had to do to Google in order for them to agree to "the right to be forgotten" thing. Regardless of how interesting this is, its something to write your representatives in Federal and State government rather than try to fight personally.

edit: wanted to add that i skimmed quite a bit of your posts as it was really extensive so if i'm off base just ignore this :)
 
While it all sounds good, I'm going to go with No at this point. I need the break from this trashy game and if Blizz should do anything untoward during the ban just to make things worse, I don't want to be part of it. If this was an outright ban, you're damned right I would want to know since there's nothing left to lose; but I lost a main account here so I'm more interested in getting it back and moving forward.
 
People seem to think that no individual could afford to sue blizzard over a video game, and while this may be true I have 3 words for you: Class Action Lawsuit. Multiple parties can and do often foot the bill for suing large companies, and if there are legal violation on blizzards part in order to find the information that prompted this detection then they are liable for any action they took, as much so as all the botters on this site
 
Hmmm yea seems for EU players there maybe a loophole for Data Protection etc etc, has anyone found any useful Information for USA players
 
AlwaysInPain said:
If you sign a contract to become a slave, the State anti-slavery law will supersede it and the contract is nulled. :o
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The wording is important. Blizzard has a team of lawyers to write up their terms, while everyone here is an armchair lawyer.

I remember people trying to use privacy laws to get bans reversed back during the Pirox days, and it never worked.
 
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