[Official] Banwave 1 February 2017 Discussion

[Catmeat]

How have you been botting? How often/what profiles? Kinda odd you haven't been detected unless you only do it occasionally.

Almost every day, including raiding. Been using a mix of TuanHa and Millz profiles and the questing profile. Only thing I've done differently is not PvP, but that's not really an explanation for why I haven't been banned. Just fortunate, I suppose.

I've been banned on a previous acount, but this one has been untouched for a good 6 months.

 

[vonarstonehelm]

Almost every day, including raiding. Been using a mix of TuanHa and Millz profiles and the questing profile. Only thing I've done differently is not PvP, but that's not really an explanation for why I haven't been banned. Just fortunate, I suppose.

I've been banned on a previous acount, but this one has been untouched for a good 6 months.

Interesting. You use HBRelog at all or just manually start/stop it?

 

[Demondog70]

Almost every day, including raiding. Been using a mix of TuanHa and Millz profiles and the questing profile. Only thing I've done differently is not PvP, but that's not really an explanation for why I haven't been banned. Just fortunate, I suppose.

I've been banned on a previous acount, but this one has been untouched for a good 6 months.

Were you botting between Nov 1st and 22nd, Jan 10th and Feb 1st?

I am having a really hard time swallowing this. These bans were based on DETECTION not reports meaning EVERYONE using the bot during these times got flagged and waffle slapped shortly after.

 

[champen11]

Were you botting between Nov 1st and 22nd, Jan 10th and Feb 1st?

I am having a really hard time swallowing this. These bans were based on DETECTION not reports meaning EVERYONE using the bot during these times got flagged and waffle slapped shortly after.

< Ican sign this. From the day bossland revoked the lifetime licenses I did not bot anymore. I even did not get the ban on Feb the 1st but on the 4th...

 

[qztr]

< Ican sign this. From the day bossland revoked the lifetime licenses I did not bot anymore. I even did not get the ban on Feb the 1st but on the 4th...

Haven't botted since the revoke, all accounts are still alive.

 

[Frayman]

I also haven't used HB since the license change. And no bans here. I was a casual user. Rotations for hand play at higher level and also a small bit of gathering using paid profiles that I supervised 90%. No AH selling

I also must say I have been hit on ALL of the recent "waves" 3 of them in total. Up to and including the last one I got 01/31/2017.

 

[Phelon]

im in for 2 years now phelon!! amazing game even on PTU

I am one of the "whales" =). I own every big ship they have sold that cost over 300.00.

I might give it a try, since Nighthold disappointed me a lot.

You should man. It is RAD! The community is also awesome. It isn't like the WoW cesspool.

 

[weasleish]

started a new acc with hb, right now lvl 74 after 3 days of botting with some hrs stops.

Mad as. Thats awesome. Can't wait for the next few months when you get banned and buy yet another account and post this exact thing. Good work mate.

 

[Zodder2]

Mad as. Thats awesome. Can't wait for the next few months when you get banned and buy yet another account and post this exact thing. Good work mate.

yeah HB is awesome, you only get banned all the time and on top of that you get fu**ed by Bossland aswell. This stuff is worth every penny

 

[Kuat]

I also haven't used HB since the license change. And no bans here. I was a casual user. Rotations for hand play at higher level and also a small bit of gathering using paid profiles that I supervised 90%. No AH selling

I also must say I have been hit on ALL of the recent "waves" 3 of them in total. Up to and including the last one I got 01/31/2017.

So what you're saying is you haven't been banned YET for about a week?

 

[foam_follower]

I'm going to post here as I cannot help but assume there's a connection?

I've had a brief break after the lifetime debacle and the 1st Feb Bantastrophe. Had a couple of accounts banned during and shortly after the ban wave. Started again last night. Level 100 account + game time (paid, not token). Attached HB, CR only using Singular and I'd done a few quests in Tanaan Jungle. After approximately 15 minutes of play with no one else there to report me, and using simple rotation only, I get a ban. That's a third in 3 weeks. I'm buying a 2nd hand laptop later today, Windows 10 32bit with 4gb ram. Going to install Warcraft and give it a go, minimum spec, and see if I get another ban. This will be my last active account besides my main so I won't be investing any more money if this one gets hit.

 

[Aion]

I'm going to post here as I cannot help but assume there's a connection?

I've had a brief break after the lifetime debacle and the 1st Feb Bantastrophe. Had a couple of accounts banned during and shortly after the ban wave. Started again last night. Level 100 account + game time (paid, not token). Attached HB, CR only using Singular and I'd done a few quests in Tanaan Jungle. After approximately 15 minutes of play with no one else there to report me, and using simple rotation only, I get a ban. That's a third in 3 weeks. I'm buying a 2nd hand laptop later today, Windows 10 32bit with 4gb ram. Going to install Warcraft and give it a go, minimum spec, and see if I get another ban. This will be my last active account besides my main so I won't be investing any more money if this one gets hit.

You receive automatic bans, due to your "very-negative" customer history in Blizz's eyes.

I suppose, you have not cleared your system off Blizzard's tracks after each ban, have you? Not cleared registry, still keeping your old wow installation right?

 

[Druid07]

You receive automatic bans, due to your "very-negative" customer history in Blizz's eyes.

I suppose, you have not cleared your system off Blizzard's tracks after each ban, have you? Not cleared registry, still keeping your old wow installation right?

I have never done any of that and I have about 60 Legion accounts banned by now. Maybe they only flag you if you do chargebacks or if you're trying to be really big or something? (BTW registry and install folder is nothing there are better ways for them to generate PC fingerprint, also payment options could be flagged, IP if it's static white?)

 

[vonarstonehelm]

You receive automatic bans, due to your "very-negative" customer history in Blizz's eyes.

I suppose, you have not cleared your system off Blizzard's tracks after each ban, have you? Not cleared registry, still keeping your old wow installation right?

I don't think that will help. I've never cleared anything from either machine that had a ban. Been playing by hand for almost a month and nothing. This leads me to believe that HB is still being detected.

Was debating about starting back up after the 1st but I guess I will wait longer.

 

[foam_follower]

You receive automatic bans, due to your "very-negative" customer history in Blizz's eyes.

I suppose, you have not cleared your system off Blizzard's tracks after each ban, have you? Not cleared registry, still keeping your old wow installation right?

@Aion

Pffft I'm "Very-Negative" with everyone lol. Anyway.... No. I was same-old-same-old with my machine, WOW installation and registry etc. I hadn't changed anything. It's been my experience (until now at least) that I've only ever received bans on those account that I've attached the bot too. I've been RAF botting on one account while hand playing my main (same machine) and never received a ban on my main. I don't even want to think that Blizzard are scanning flagged machines as that would mean they can see through any protection that's in place. I've recovered an account (not my main) that was mistakenly banned under the RAF scenario though when I truthfully argued it hadn't been botted. Blizzard never even argued, they simply reactivated the account.

If Blizzard are detecting bot on flagged machines it mean that Tripwire isn't working and I really don't want to go down those lines.

I'll know more when I get that 2nd hand laptop (THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AN HOUR AGO) and try things out.

 

[Kuat]

You receive automatic bans, due to your "very-negative" customer history in Blizz's eyes.

LOL, this is bullshit.

In order to ban you they need a concrete reason. Stuff like "oh this guy has been banned on the past, lets ban him again" does not work.

Blizz also needs to collect concrete proof that your character was cheating. So my guess is they just detect HB while you are playing.

Old tracks, associated accounts, cache - it's all bullshit. They must catch you while you are cheating. I had 4 account running on my PC at the same time: 3 were botting for herbs/ore and 1 account was main, played by hand with no HB attached. The 3 bot accounts got banned, but the Main account with no HB attached never got banned.

 

[Kuat]

I've only ever received bans on those account that I've attached the bot to.

Exactly.

 

[vonarstonehelm]

LOL, this is bullshit.

In order to ban you they need a concrete reason. Stuff like "oh this guy has been banned on the past, lets ban him again" does not work.

Blizz also needs to collect concrete proof that your character was cheating. So my guess is they just detect HB while you are playing.

Old tracks, associated accounts, cache - it's all bullshit. They must catch you while you are cheating. I had 4 account running on my PC at the same time: 3 were botting for herbs/ore and 1 account was main, played by hand with no HB attached. The 3 bot accounts got banned, but the Main account with no HB attached never got banned.

This.

 

[foam_follower]

Well, finally got that laptop albeit a day late. Now I'm going to install WOW and HB and see how we go. I'm not going to change the way I play either. CR's only, nothing else. If I get any news worth sharing I'll share it.

 

[tiguana]

I thought Bossland was creating a new bot that just did the combat rotation, and would not use injection. It seems that other websites, like Owned, say that its the injection technology that is getting us in trouble. Any update?