What's new
By:
  • Visit Rebornbuddy
  • Visit Panda Profiles
  • Visit LLamamMagic
  • Visit Resources
  • Visit Downloads
  • Visit Portal

Developer Rules Update

Zoinx said:
You are all right actually. You should take up a DMCA case against HB!

butthurt-personal-injury-lawyer-788YQA.jpg
Click to expand...

PMSL, people have some fucked up names.
 
all my shit will be removed as of tommorow, i will be closing down all my thread's. MadDog will be releasing my code,
i give him and only him permission to touch my code.

Enjoy, Admins Archive all my shit. every single thing.
 
swiny said:
considering the time i waisted on that project. months.
oh wait. is it wrong that i ask for a small fee?

oh wait? i forgot honorbuddy costs money to does it not?
get the fuck over it, mapgen is mapgen. it can support hb. doesnt mean its for hb

i released my CC's, my Plugins for the best intentions.

when i got here there wasnt a rogue cc. so i made 1.
the movement sucked. so i made glue.

get the fucking picture.
wow is dead, honorbuddy is dead, there is only raphus working on it, things have came to a halt.
now that there are main CC's dev's stopping. well look out forum,

here comes a rush full of people like kasia who release a CC, edit it slightly. and break it.
and who look does that look bad on?

im not just talking now. who is going to dev when MoP comes out,
oh wait all you guys will have is singular......



And thats why with mapgen i give a trial out. doesnt bother me.
Click to expand...

1. Were it not for you, the rules probably would not have changed.
2. Now they have changed you have moved from swearing at mods to swearing at users.

Really what am I meant to do with you?
 
I'll just quote CodenameG

the original author needs to take up the claim and fight it. if he decides to, because the OP failed to get permission before hand, then surely i will have to pull the project down.​
Click to expand...

So reposting a group of CCs does sound like a bad idea
 
Hawker said:
1. Were it not for you, the rules probably would not have changed.
2. Now they have changed you have moved from swearing at mods to swearing at users.

Really what am I meant to do with you?
Click to expand...

hit me with your best shot,

BAN HAMMER
 
Hawker said:
1. Were it not for you, the rules probably would not have changed.
2. Now they have changed you have moved from swearing at mods to swearing at users.

Really what am I meant to do with you?
Click to expand...
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Swiny pms you because someone stole his code (quite rightly so). Hazard i know for sure was stealing it, i saw it with my own eyes. Why didnt you just do what was necessary?
You have successfully pissed off nearly every well known reputable person in the forum! All over a grudge on swiny.
+++++++rep!
 
I am for the change, I will say this out front. I think being able to borrow code from someone elses project and put it in your own as long as you get them credit is a positive. You already implemented it working and it's near perfect in your project, why reinvent the wheel for mine? No point in doing that. The point of this rule change isn't to copy entire projects, change one line of code and call it your own, nor do the HB staff see that as happening. If it does, they can, and probably will, change how the rule is worded so a complete rip of the project can not be posted.

I understand where the developers of all the projects are coming from, I wouldn't want hundreds, or thousands (thats where I would put all FPSware's work at) of hours just stolen. But no one is going to do that. You can say all day the rules, as they stand now, clearly state that I can copy your entire CC and change 3 values, give you credit and call it my own. But who is going to do that? Saying you have had PMs in the past where people want to use your work is nothing. Have you given this a chance at all instead of uprising against the HB staff?

Why not do what Hawker suggests, and in 1 month if the forums are so populated with "Zoinx's Glue Edit!!" or "Zoinx's Better FPSware CC!!" then yes, complain and I will join you as it obviously didn't work out for the better then. These rules are the same that were in place during Glider days. They worked then and they should work now. Nothing would chance, as I said before it's brand recognition.

I was actually really excited about FPSware Unity to replace Singular for my CC needs. I have have no problem botting with Singular yet (I only AFK bot rep/achievement crap, I use PQR for raiding purposes), but just something about the prestige behind FPSware's CC's that I used in the past. I expect quality from him and will continue to use his.

Look at ShamWoW by Bobby. Right now I can copy his entire thing and change some default values and maybe change what totems drop. That would be perfectly ok, but who the hell would use it over ShamWoW? EVERYONE knows ShamWoW. Why do you think there is no other Shaman CC to contend with it? Brand recognition. You know what you get when you D/L it and use it, you know its the best there is.

TL;DR Give the rules a chance, like Hawker said. If it turns out they don't work as intended, they can always revert it and at that point, if latent ripoffs are running around like you think they are, I will gladly support you guys instead of being against you.
 
kasia said:
You are the one whos banned ? doesnt you ? And the only reason you code is to get money. first you release free map gen and then you want us to pay for it 15$ good luck, the next thing you will ask for money for Rouge CC`s, dont worry i will release it along with others cc`s
Click to expand...
You are really an idiot. Even if I get banned for that. I'm not a dev for HBRELOG, but being that disrespectful just shows where this rule change leads everything.
You are a piece of crap and guys like you should not just be banned. They should loose every possibility to use benefits of HB, loose their key and should never get a chance to come back.


Anyway, swiny:
Even if I'm with you regarding that rule change and I also don't understand why such a shit is getting done. So far I just heard of 2 devs (you and Venus/Lazyraider CC) that they will take consequences.
So saying that just crap will stay here is quite arrogant. You are a good dev and do respect your work. But by saying such stuff, you just show, that you don't respect the work of other devs and think that you are the best and without you you think HB will go down.
Moreover you were the only one I know, who was complaining because parts of your Glue code has been used, when it was bugging out like hell (permanent crashes etc.). So this rule change came for sure also because of your complaints.

In my opinion the new rule sucks. I would change it in a way, which allows people to make slight modifications, show them and post the result in the original thread with giving credit. In that way renaming is not possible, it stays under the same old dev and he can implement good and useful changes to his original plugin/cc. If someone wants parts of the code and does most of the stuff on his own to name the project as he wants to, he has to ask the original dev for permission.

That's in my opinion a rule, which could be accepted by original devs and guys which want to make slight adjustments.
 
MadDog00700 said:
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Swiny pms you because someone stole his code (quite rightly so). Hazard i know for sure was stealing it, i saw it with my own eyes. Why didnt you just do what was necessary?
You have successfully pissed off nearly every well known reputable person in the forum! All over a grudge on swiny.
+++++++rep!
Click to expand...

Swiny proved the rules had to be changed. Now they are changed so the problem is gone.

As I said to Venus, wait 4 weeks and see how things work out for everyone else. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

To everyone else, I'm all for discussion but not for abuse. Please stay on topic and show some respect in your arguments.
 
Hawker said:
Swiny proved the rules had to be changed. Now they are changed so the problem is gone.

As I said to Venus, wait 4 weeks and see how things work out for everyone else. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

To everyone else, I'm all for discussion but not for abuse. Please stay on topic and show some respect in your arguments.
Click to expand...
No offense, but what is the use of this discussion? A few pages back, I've asked something which should be awnsered by the admins. No reply on that. It looks like a one-way discussion and the admins are only here to keep everyone on "friendly" terms ... The admins are the ones who created the new rule, thus they should actively participate in this discussion which you brought upon yourselves.

This is not meant disrespectful, but it had to be stated.
 
nomnomnom said:
No offense, but what is the use of this discussion? A few pages back, I've asked something which should be awnsered by the admins. No reply on that. It looks like a one-way discussion and the admins are only here to keep everyone on "friendly" terms ... The admins are the ones who created the new rule, thus they should actively participate in this discussion which you brought upon yourselves.

This is not meant disrespectful, but it had to be stated.
Click to expand...

I answered. If there is a problem, let me know. But be aware that I have a problem with the old rules which means that they had to go.
 
Hawker, tell me something

As you can read, we have one individual who somehow feels he's allowed to post all our work
As i can see, that is not something covered under this rule and i would like to hear what will be done if this is to happen?

I can't see how i would be pleasantly surprised, and that is why i am currently either looking into hosting all my projects a remote place - away from the HB forums or even closing down all and future CC releases, as the hostility towards us (the developers not liking this) from some of the HB community has been quite demoralising
 
cm2003 said:
You are really an idiot. Even if I get banned for that. I'm not a dev for HBRELOG, but being that disrespectful just shows where this rule change leads everything.
You are a piece of crap and guys like you should not just be banned. They should loose every possibility to use benefits of HB, loose their key and should never get a chance to come back.
Click to expand...

The admins do the right choice, this "developers" rage quit prove that they are right. if you dont like sharing dont post your work. The worst thing in the world is wen they release and then shoot down beucase of "type reason here" they somebody else can continue they work.
 
wulf said:
A) Whats done is done.
Click to expand...
True yet if there are important people that disagree or see problems with the decision then there's no reason not to listen to their points and try to solve them.
B) Bashing HB staff for not having API documentation is not going to change the rule.
Click to expand...
Yet if the point is valid then it requires a post. Whether in this topic or in another can be open to debate.
Even more importantly: If some people see the quality of the documentation as a reason to have more acceptance of the rule then it *should* be in here.

Anyway; meta-discussions aside: I'm currently working on a customer project (nothing to do with HB) but as soon as that's done I'm willing to pick up part of the WIKI improvement project.
Would an improved WIKI/API doc change peoples views on the new ruling? Would it convince those that have said nay to the rule to rethink their decision and give it a chance?
 
kasia said:
The admins do the right choice, this "developers" rage quit prove that they are right. if you dont like sharing dont post your work. The worst thing in the world is wen they release and then shoot down beucase of "type reason here" they somebody else can continue they work.
Click to expand...


I hope you can support them...

greetz

Weischbier
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top