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Totemizer - A Totem Routine

cjstk90 said:
no i use minimal gear for just fast clearing, like a +1tabula gem with empower etc.etc.
and acquisition

then just trade off alts, chroms, jews, all other currencies into chaos or ex.

i sometimes use up armor scraps w/ fusings to make 6L armors to make ex that way too

last season i made much more, and didn't care to be banned so i botted for 6 days straight in the last couple week of season and still didn't get banned lol
i just check up on it every 8-12hrs or so to sell off items and see what the bot found

i started botting only about 8 hours for this season, but kinda lost patience
i had a long weekend from the 24th to today, and was rarely home. I had some error issues on the 25th, but after that it's been running smoothly
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Wow, I thought ggg was very aggressive with botters? I'm scared to even let a quest plugin run for an hour just to take the burden on some of the boring quests off my hands.
 
i never did quest plugin, i have a friend that enjoys leveling a lot of low level chars, so he levels mine to 70 for me.

i just farm lake from 70-80 and then just map
 
krone6 said:
Wow, I thought ggg was very aggressive with botters? I'm scared to even let a quest plugin run for an hour just to take the burden on some of the boring quests off my hands.
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I personally dont think they are super aggressive against botters. I am only basing this off myself never getting caught nor any of my friends (i have a lot) ever getting caught / banned. I have been botting a really long time on my main account. I usually run daily anywhere from 8 to 18 hours per day. I do shut the bot off for small breaks throughout the day, and i trade with people when im around the pc and they send tells.

I believe the majority (just your average botter) of botters just run 1 account, 1 ip, 1 machine and use EB to grind xp / currency. These players are generally pretty safe.

Its when you start trying to run armies of bots to make RL cash that the ban rate goes up (especially if you are just starting out / dont know wtf you are doing) I think its a very small percent of the bot user base overall that runs like this 24/7. Maybe i wrong and everyone is getting rich off poe but i doubt it. It can be a lot of work to run 10+ bots especially if you are not great at programming and using just public plugins.


No one knows the algorithms they use for banning, so no one can tell you how to avoid it. But i really dont feel its super aggressive. Their last ban wave was a whopping 22 accounts? And those dont happen often. Just be smart. Dont let your shit run 24/7 with no breaks, no interaction with anyone ever, etc.
 
cjstk90 said:
np, made over 30+ ex in profits alrdy in talisman season using ur profile lol
would be nice if there's a way to cast lightning warp when u take a huge hit and makes ur hp go below 50% of something like that for ur next update
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Out of curiosity what build are you running and what zones are you running?

About the lightning warp is a bit more complicated. I was trying to introduce some sort of kiting because all the CR's lack that but it is kinda hard to make it work properly.
 
tozededao said:
Out of curiosity what build are you running and what zones are you running?

About the lightning warp is a bit more complicated. I was trying to introduce some sort of kiting because all the CR's lack that but it is kinda hard to make it work properly.
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If it's too hard to do what about allowing us to use warcries since we just stand there taking it unless we are generating power charges?

EDIT: How do you change the minimum distance away from a target a person sets totems? As you have read earlier what I changed didn't work and I didn't find anything else relating to distance.
 
krone6 said:
If it's too hard to do what about allowing us to use warcries since we just stand there taking it unless we are generating power charges?

EDIT: How do you change the minimum distance away from a target a person sets totems? As you have read earlier what I changed didn't work and I didn't find anything else relating to distance.
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The logic that my CR follows is :

Get a random number between 10 and the maxDistanceBetweenTargetAndTotem variable you can choose from settings panel : Lets say it is between 10 and 20.
Lets say the random number is 15.

Lets imagine our distance to the monster is 40.

Vector2i pBetweenToCast2 = myLoc.GetPointAtDistanceAfterThis(bestTarget.Position, randomLocBetween);
For pBetweenToCast2 you can imagine it as a raycast(a line between the character and the monster) 0 is us and 40 is the monster.
The chosen position for the totem is going to be 15 away from us and 25 away from the monster. I choose to put the totem near us so when the CR chooses the best target a rare thats far away from us but we have normal monsters closer the totem will at least hit them in order to survive as this CR was made for Shockwave Totem.

If you want the distance to start at the monster and not on the character you need to swich it to this:

Vector2i pBetweenToCast2 = bestTarget.Position.GetPointAtDistanceAfterThis(myLoc, randomLocBetween)

That way it will start counting at the target position instead of on you, and the distance between the monster and the totem will be chosen by

float randomLocBetween = (float)Loki.Common.MathEx.Random(10, maxDistanceBetweenTargetAndTotem);
If you want to always have the same distance you can just use
float randomLocBetween = 10 ;
or
float randomLocBetween = 15 ;

If you use 10 the totem will always be placed 10 away from target.
 
tozededao said:
Out of curiosity what build are you running and what zones are you running?

About the lightning warp is a bit more complicated. I was trying to introduce some sort of kiting because all the CR's lack that but it is kinda hard to make it work properly.
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Dual flame totem w/ +1 tabula gem, +3 empower, fire totem, fire pen, iron will, faster casting, added chaos
2 apep rage wands,
then just decent gears with res + HP, w/ random mf i find or buy for cheap

idk why but i got way less DPS with 6L inferno, so i opt to go with +1 tabula gem and empower. I rather get lvl 4 empower, to make it lvl 5 for +4 to buff all my gems to like lvl 25

i just run maps, usually clears it in 8-11min
i ignore maps that get stuck in, or get rekt by the boss. like mines and phangorairisaj or however u spell that lol
it would be hugeee if someone finds a way to code lightning warp, cos that would allow my bot to do bosses that struggles against it right now cuz it's too dumb and tanks it til death lol
 
cjstk90 said:
it would be hugeee if someone finds a way to code lightning warp, cos that would allow my bot to do bosses that struggles against it right now cuz it's too dumb and tanks it til death lol
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I think one person actually tried to create some avoidance for his CR, but said the amount of calculations that had to be done made it not worth it. Even if you look at something like Demonbuddy which is much easier to code in. It has an avoidance system, but people complained for well over a year about always dying. A few very talented developers even forked off of trinity to try and make really strong avoidances. Even with all that man power / dev time into avoidance systems, i believe even today you will still die fairly often to arcane cutters / molten / etc etc. You need to invest into your defenses for your characters. Its just a really tough system to code.

That being said, there is still plenty you can add to these combat routines to help avoid death. I personally run Vaal Molten Shell (with spell echo / duration / life leech) and have it activate only on uniques (bosses) with all Tormented Spirits blacklisted. I have Vaal Disc activate at 30%ish energy shield. I use Vaal Summon Skeletons for all lock boxes / bosses. And i have Vaal Haste for all bosses.

Just the Vaal Molent Shell destroys bosses. Vaal Disc is just great if i drop low. Vaal Summon Skeletons just releases an army of undead super tanks that keep the bosses / hard uniques / chest spawns off me. And of course Vaal Haste just to make sure i am dropping bosses that much faster.

The one thing i would like to figure how to do, is make my CR use a diamond flask THEN pop Vaal Molten Shell. Since the crit snapshots, this would make you damn near immortal for the duration of the buff.
 
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tozededao said:
The logic that my CR follows is :

Get a random number between 10 and the maxDistanceBetweenTargetAndTotem variable you can choose from settings panel : Lets say it is between 10 and 20.
Lets say the random number is 15.

Lets imagine our distance to the monster is 40.

Vector2i pBetweenToCast2 = myLoc.GetPointAtDistanceAfterThis(bestTarget.Position, randomLocBetween);
For pBetweenToCast2 you can imagine it as a raycast(a line between the character and the monster) 0 is us and 40 is the monster.
The chosen position for the totem is going to be 15 away from us and 25 away from the monster. I choose to put the totem near us so when the CR chooses the best target a rare thats far away from us but we have normal monsters closer the totem will at least hit them in order to survive as this CR was made for Shockwave Totem.

If you want the distance to start at the monster and not on the character you need to swich it to this:

Vector2i pBetweenToCast2 = bestTarget.Position.GetPointAtDistanceAfterThis(myLoc, randomLocBetween)

That way it will start counting at the target position instead of on you, and the distance between the monster and the totem will be chosen by

float randomLocBetween = (float)Loki.Common.MathEx.Random(10, maxDistanceBetweenTargetAndTotem);
If you want to always have the same distance you can just use
float randomLocBetween = 10 ;
or
float randomLocBetween = 15 ;

If you use 10 the totem will always be placed 10 away from target.
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Thanks for the explanation. Looks like that intro programming class came in handy as I actually understood a lot of what you wrote. I should be able to edit the CR for siege ballistas now and if I have any other questions I'll let you know.

EDIT: I have them summoning at my feet now which is even better than I originally planned.
 
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cjstk90 said:
no i use minimal gear for just fast clearing, like a +1tabula gem with empower etc.etc.
and acquisition

then just trade off alts, chroms, jews, all other currencies into chaos or ex.

i sometimes use up armor scraps w/ fusings to make 6L armors to make ex that way too

last season i made much more, and didn't care to be banned so i botted for 6 days straight in the last couple week of season and still didn't get banned lol
i just check up on it every 8-12hrs or so to sell off items and see what the bot found

i started botting only about 8 hours for this season, but kinda lost patience, and started to bot 12hrs
i had a long weekend from the 24th to today, and was rarely home. I had some error issues on the 25th, but after that it's been running smoothly since thursday.
I use teamviewer on my phone to control my bot etc. as well
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possible to link ur skill tree etc.? just interested in a good setup for this cr
 
Is there anyway you could please add the use off Frost Wall to the CR? even though it doesn't do damage I like to use it to block projectiles and mobs while throwing totems over it.
 
does enduring cry work again on the totemizer routine?
Still using a 2 weeks old version.
 
Added Vaal Haste and fixed some other stuff, let me know how this works for you and if it is broken doing something.

Its hard for me to keep testing a lot since I only have 1 EB License.
 

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hey I modified(VERY slightly) your CR to work with a Tri-Totem build. In case you have Soul Mantle. If anyone is interested i can upload. Would love for someone to test it out.
 
bluejay89 said:
hey I modified(VERY slightly) your CR to work with a Tri-Totem build. In case you have Soul Mantle. If anyone is interested i can upload. Would love for someone to test it out.
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I was wondering if tozededao made any changes for tri totems. Since searing bonds is a totem but no longer counts against the max totems you can have out. Basically while going dual totems, you can always have 3 totems out (if one of the 3 is searing bonds).
 
I made this for myself some time ago when I was playing totems. You can type how many totems you want to use from 0 to 3. It's also casting fireball (was too lazy to change routines so I added it lol). I dont know if it's going to work well in 2.1.

View attachment Totemizer.zip
 
Hey just came back to say i updated it to cast frost wall between yourself and the main target so dont worry about it anymore. anyways im about to add support for searing bond totem now ill upload here so you can look at it when i finish...an hour maybe?
 
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