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[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

Millz said:
Broken with burst ACTIVE or DEACTIVE?



https://pastee.org/h2jp7 - Still suggest editing them to your own needs though.
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When activated burst mode cr is normally working. dots, haunt , malefic grasp , soul burn soul swap etc... But after this skills cr using only dots and fear... Burst mode still active... Before the last update i was using same settings and burst mode always active... CR was using cds and same rotation always but now only once and stops...
 
xratedownz said:
When activated burst mode cr is normally working. dots, haunt , malefic grasp , soul burn soul swap etc... But after this skills cr using only dots and fear... Burst mode still active... Before the last update i was using same settings and burst mode always active... CR was using cds and same rotation always but now only once and stops...
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Burst forces it on the current target, normal will dot everything etc

*Edit* to be honest though that's personal preference, depending on how you want it to run. This is why I provide options ;)

*edit 2* -> bed time, shall pick up questions at about 5am uk time.. :(
 
Millz said:
Burst forces it on the current target, normal will dot everything etc

*Edit* to be honest though that's personal preference, depending on how you want it to run. This is why I provide options ;)
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I guess u still dont understand my problem :) We are playing 2 dps and and we nuking at start . My burst mode always on. But cr using all skills at start but after that only using dots and fear. I want to use all abilities always like before the update.
I mean at start cr using dots haunt and malefic grasp thats ok. But if target not dead it stop using haunt and malefic grasp , soul burn soul swap. I want use those skills always when burst mode on. I want burst mode on always...
Btw low unit aoe defaut disabled atm. Is there any way to dot up all on targets in arena? without soul burn soul swap?
 
Do u have fear set to any that sometimes makes it fear bomb everything

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xratedownz said:
I guess u still dont understand my problem :) We are playing 2 dps and and we nuking at start . My burst mode always on. But cr using all skills at start but after that only using dots and fear. I want to use all abilities always like before the update.
I mean at start cr using dots haunt and malefic grasp thats ok. But if target not dead it stop using haunt and malefic grasp , soul burn soul swap. I want use those skills always when burst mode on. I want burst mode on always...
Btw low unit aoe defaut disabled atm. Is there any way to dot up all on targets in arena? without soul burn soul swap?
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Bottom line is, you should not have burst mode active the entire fight. It will be a decrease in dps. Give it a shot with burst mode deactivated and see how it does.
 
Also sense ur using affc I find it better to come out let it dot evenything fear ur focus then kick on burst that way u can build ur damage up sense I find as affc ur there to put pressure on everyone not so much for a massive burst

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Just started doing some BG's as Demo. Got a few questions if its allright.

Loaded up the pvp file, is there any general newbie pvp advice you could give ? (settings, tweaks etc)

I noticed it casts alot of slowpoke Shadowbolts, which hits like a wet noodle. (Tooltip says : 2,21 sec cast time, 1846 shadow dmg, awards 25 fury). Its like critting for 5-7k LOL :-/

This is just a thought, but wouldnt it be better if it spammed Fel Flame a few times. Alot more damage, more Fury etc. My Fel Flame tooltip says : "Instant cast, 18200 dmg, +6 sec on Corruption, awards 15 Fury).
 
Aight so I changed some of my demo setting and im pulling a steady 124k on dummy. I will be testing this in raid tonight. Also that is without any bis trinkets!
 
Sucubich said:
Aight so I changed some of my demo setting and im pulling a steady 124k on dummy. I will be testing this in raid tonight. Also that is without any bis trinkets!
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Do you mind sharing your ilvl, and what tweaks you have done?

Thanks!
 
xratedownz said:
I guess u still dont understand my problem :) We are playing 2 dps and and we nuking at start . My burst mode always on. But cr using all skills at start but after that only using dots and fear. I want to use all abilities always like before the update.
I mean at start cr using dots haunt and malefic grasp thats ok. But if target not dead it stop using haunt and malefic grasp , soul burn soul swap. I want use those skills always when burst mode on. I want burst mode on always...
Btw low unit aoe defaut disabled atm. Is there any way to dot up all on targets in arena? without soul burn soul swap?
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Oh right I see what you're saying. To be perfectly honest, as a nuke setup, affliction is the worst spec you can pick - it's more of a long game approach (dot + gateway jumping + exhaustion kiting).

Burst mode for affliction uses Dark Soul, Unending Resolve (prevents silences), and uses shards on keeping Haunt on the target (then using MG to burn them down). It doesn't really change anything other than that.

If you've got AoE enabled, it'll keep DoTs up on all targets (where possible). The only time the GUI setting comes into play is when you've got equal to, or more than that number of units within a 15 yard range around your current target (and thus when to start casting Seed of Corruption).
 
fragnot said:
Just started doing some BG's as Demo. Got a few questions if its allright.Loaded up the pvp file, is there any general newbie pvp advice you could give ? (settings, tweaks etc)I noticed it casts alot of slowpoke Shadowbolts, which hits like a wet noodle. (Tooltip says : 2,21 sec cast time, 1846 shadow dmg, awards 25 fury). Its like critting for 5-7k LOL :-/ This is just a thought, but wouldnt it be better if it spammed Fel Flame a few times. Alot more damage, more Fury etc. My Fel Flame tooltip says : "Instant cast, 18200 dmg, +6 sec on Corruption, awards 15 Fury).
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If you're moving (and don't have KJC) then it'll cast Fel Flame, but Shadow Bolt's do more damage, and so when standing still (or can cast while moving) it's better to Shadow Bolt.
 
Millz said:
Oh right I see what you're saying. To be perfectly honest, as a nuke setup, affliction is the worst spec you can pick - it's more of a long game approach (dot + gateway jumping + exhaustion kiting).

Burst mode for affliction uses Dark Soul, Unending Resolve (prevents silences), and uses shards on keeping Haunt on the target (then using MG to burn them down). It doesn't really change anything other than that.

If you've got AoE enabled, it'll keep DoTs up on all targets (where possible). The only time the GUI setting comes into play is when you've got equal to, or more than that number of units within a 15 yard range around your current target (and thus when to start casting Seed of Corruption).
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If burst mode on always routine is broken. But after burst mode if i disable it , routine doing right things... It wasnt before like that , i think something changed with update.
I dont want use seed of corruption just dot up all targets. Need to change number of unit for it? in 2v2 arena i enabled aoe but it wasnt dot all targets only current target. Before low unit aoe disabled i had to do 2 units and it was doting in 2v2 arena.

Edit: Btw u r wrong about affli lock burst , i am 2.1k rating with ele shaman :D
 
xratedownz said:
If burst mode on always routine is broken. But after burst mode if i disable it , routine doing right things... It wasnt before like that , i think something changed with update.
I dont want use seed of corruption just dot up all targets. Need to change number of unit for it? in 2v2 arena i enabled aoe but it wasnt dot all targets only current target. Before low unit aoe disabled i had to do 2 units and it was doting in 2v2 arena.

Edit: Btw u r wrong about affli lock burst , i am 2.1k rating with ele shaman :D
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Nice rating! I've checked the code, I definitely haven't made any changes to burst recently for quite a while.

Change the high aoe count to 99 - won't be used in arenas then. So long as AoE is enabled it'll still multi-dot etc.
 
One thing that confuses me is the Burst Mode.

Cant you edit the original topic, and explain what Burst mode actually does, in the different specs etc?
 
fragnot said:
One thing that confuses me is the Burst Mode.Cant you edit the original topic, and explain what Burst mode actually does, in the different specs etc?
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I was actually considering writing a full set of documentation on how different aspects of the routine works to let people make better informed decisions about how to have it setup. For burst in particular, cooldowns dependant, it'll use dark soul, unending resolve, and keep haunt active on the target.
 
Millz said:
Nice rating! I've checked the code, I definitely haven't made any changes to burst recently for quite a while.

Change the high aoe count to 99 - won't be used in arenas then. So long as AoE is enabled it'll still multi-dot etc.
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so no need to change low aoe unit in config.xml? it shows low aoe unit 4 in config.xml. Is that way cr only multi doting there was 4 ppl or above? not for 2 or 3?
 
Millz said:
I was actually considering writing a full set of documentation on how different aspects of the routine works to let people make better informed decisions about how to have it setup. For burst in particular, cooldowns dependant, it'll use dark soul, unending resolve, and keep haunt active on the target.
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well is there any way to cr use haunt always? i mean when burst mode off? As i told you when burst mode on cr only using haunt 1 time and then only doting and fear.. not even malefic grasp also... I just want to burst mode always on but cr contunie current rotation always except cds... when cds avaliable use them..
 
xratedownz said:
so no need to change low aoe unit in config.xml? it shows low aoe unit 4 in config.xml. Is that way cr only multi doting there was 4 ppl or above? not for 2 or 3?
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No. Low AoE is handled automatically, you only need to set the config in the GUI at what point to start using SoC. Should never need to manually edit the xml file.
 
xratedownz said:
well is there any way to cr use haunt always? i mean when burst mode off? As i told you when burst mode on cr only using haunt 1 time and then only doting and fear.. not even malefic grasp also... I just want to burst mode always on but cr contunie current rotation always except cds... when cds avaliable use them..
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Nowhere in the code will allow it to cast Haunt -> Haunt -> Haunt

It will, at most, cast Haunt -> other spells while Haunt debuff is active -> Haunt.. I.e. it won't clip Haunt early. The earliest it'll clip it is when the time remaining on the debuff is less than the time it'll take to cast another haunt.

This what you mean? It's never been anything other than that.
 
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