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[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

Millz said:
You have 5 out of 14 pieces of PvP gear. That plus being under the hit cap as amputations states is the reason why you're doing lower than you'd want damage. PM me your actual armory link and i'll run simulation craft against it to see what it says.
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PvP gear is actually equivalent to PvE gear of the same item level. It used to be as you say in Cataclysm and before, however with the release of Mists of Pandaria the PvP Power (and what used to be resilience) does not count against the item's stat budget. It will have just as much Mastery/Haste/Crit as any PvE item. If he says he's 501 ilvl, then it's the same as wearing PvE gear with the exception of possibly missing set bonuses or socket bonuses.
 
Deathshiver said:
PvP gear is actually equivalent to PvE gear of the same item level. It used to be as you say in Cataclysm and before, however with the release of Mists of Pandaria the PvP Power (and what used to be resilience) does not count against the item's stat budget. It will have just as much Mastery/Haste/Crit as any PvE item. If he says he's 501 ilvl, then it's the same as wearing PvE gear with the exception of possibly missing set bonuses or socket bonuses.
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Oh that's interesting, I wasn't aware. I'd still need the actual armory link (obviously via a PM to keep it private) to see what SimulationCraft states it should be performing at.
 
I have pm'ed you my armory mate :)


Ran my Lock through askmrrobot. Hitcapped now, and more mastery. In a LFR now, hoping to see some changes :P
 
fragnot said:
I have pm'ed you my armory mate :)


Ran my Lock through askmrrobot. Hitcapped now, and more mastery. In a LFR now, hoping to see some changes :P
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You're on the server I was about to switch too until 5.4's details regarding the merged/virtual realms was announced :P

So I've tested it through SimCraft and that reckons about 82k dps. So 66k is a lot lower. I then went and re-specced, regemmed, reforged to get my stats as close to yours as possible (i'm about 300 spell power over but the rest is near enough the same - we have the same trinkets etc *edit* I missed mastery, doh. explains the 4k difference).

Here's my results with the default PvE settings file + fury set at 650/400;

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I don't think it could be much closer!

See how the +hit has helped, try changing the fury settings too.
 
xratedownz said:
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Millz , i dont know what is the problem but routine really unstable in arenas atm... Before the last update it was working perfect but now very slow and not using some dps skills and dps is really low... There is two log files...
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Hmm I've looked through both logs, and there's some errors in there, but I can't see any evidence of major pausing.

Is it doing anything in particular when it's pausing (i.e. trying to spam cast something and stuttering.... the log is printing something out but its not happening...)?

If the target has an immunity/reflect/do not damage aura, then the routine will pause (if it cant find another unit in LoS to attack while it waits).
 
Millz said:
Hmm I've looked through both logs, and there's some errors in there, but I can't see any evidence of major pausing.

Is it doing anything in particular when it's pausing (i.e. trying to spam cast something and stuttering.... the log is printing something out but its not happening...)?

If the target has an immunity/reflect/do not damage aura, then the routine will pause (if it cant find another unit in LoS to attack while it waits).
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nah , only pausing and using only dots... (sometimes other skills too but not always) before last update i was doing 400-500k dmg normally but now 150-200k for rush fights (1 min)
And bot attacks to focus sometimes but i target another one... Malafic grasp to pets for example while i target hunter :S
 
xratedownz said:
nah , only pausing and using only dots... (sometimes other skills too but not always) before last update i was doing 400-500k dmg normally but now 150-200k for rush fights (1 min)
And bot attacks to focus sometimes but i target another one...
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Pulled out a couple of snippets from the log files, it's definitely using all of the abilities in a logical manor. The timings seem fairly close together too

[17:55:20.845 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:23.222 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:25.378 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:27.746 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:29.917 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:31.249 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:32.329 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Corruption] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:33.719 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:35.394 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Agony] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:38.354 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Drain Life(Soulburned)] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:44.566 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Sacrificial Pact] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:44.695 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Twilight Ward] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]

Here's an example of it pausing because we don't want to cast on the target - assume something like anti-magic shield popped?

[17:56:00.045 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Haunt] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:00.349 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Drain Life(Soulburned)] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:02.454 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Health Funnel] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:04.449 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Health Funnel] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:05.816 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:07.492 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:08.062 N] [Demonic] Target has a 'Do Not Damage' aura. Cancelling Cast.
[17:56:12.073 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]

My arena partner is having internet issues so I can't even get in to test it out myself.
 
Millz said:
Pulled out a couple of snippets from the log files, it's definitely using all of the abilities in a logical manor. The timings seem fairly close together too

[17:55:20.845 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:23.222 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:25.378 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Malefic Grasp] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:27.746 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:29.917 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:31.249 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:32.329 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Corruption] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:33.719 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:55:35.394 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Agony] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:38.354 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Drain Life(Soulburned)] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:44.566 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Sacrificial Pact] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:55:44.695 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Twilight Ward] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]

Here's an example of it pausing because we don't want to cast on the target - assume something like anti-magic shield popped?

[17:56:00.045 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Haunt] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:00.349 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Drain Life(Soulburned)] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:02.454 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Health Funnel] [On: Lvl 90 Horde Warrior]
[17:56:04.449 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Health Funnel] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:05.816 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Fear] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:07.492 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]
[17:56:08.062 N] [Demonic] Target has a 'Do Not Damage' aura. Cancelling Cast.
[17:56:12.073 N] [Demonic] [Casting: Unstable Affliction] [On: Lvl 90 Horde DeathKnight]

My arena partner is having internet issues so I can't even get in to test it out myself.
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well tried new config and still same problem... it weird when i target hunter it malefic grasp using on his pet :S
 
xratedownz said:
And bot attacks to focus sometimes but i target another one... Malafic grasp to pets for example while i target hunter :S
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That's if your target has an aura you don't want to cast against (spell reflect and all that sort of stuff), or he's out of LoS. We want to be casting constantly, so it attacks another unit until your target is valid again.
 
Millz said:
That's if your target has an aura you don't want to cast against (spell reflect and all that sort of stuff), or he's out of LoS. We want to be casting constantly, so it attacks another unit until your target is valid again.
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but its kinda useless like this atm , before the last update it was perfect...
 
xratedownz said:
but its kinda useless like this atm , before the last update it was perfect...
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That code has been in since the 17th August - there's been 8 updates since then. Most recent changes shouldn't have changed any of this logic.
 
xratedownz said:
i think i found the bug , CR only using main abilities only in burst mode... there is another log...
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Just about to do some arenas too. Shouldn't really affect it but i'll try it out. To be honest I don't use burst mode at all in arenas, as my settings are done so that it nukes straight from the off.
 
Millz said:
Just about to do some arenas too. Shouldn't really affect it but i'll try it out. To be honest I don't use burst mode at all in arenas, as my settings are done so that it nukes straight from the off.
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When burst mode active cr dots target , haunt and malefic grasp after that using only dots , not even malefic grasp haunt etc...
 
xratedownz said:
When burst mode active cr dots target , haunt and malefic grasp after that using only dots , not even malefic grasp haunt etc...
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Burst forces it to cast on the current target, I'd only enable it once your current target is low HP and you need to nuke that one down.
 
Millz said:
Burst forces it to cast on the current target, I'd only enable it once your current target is low HP and you need to nuke that one down.
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yeah i know , i said after burst mode not using main abilities only doting... i am doing bg atm still same problem. i ll post log soon...
 
Millz said:
Just about to do some arenas too. Shouldn't really affect it but i'll try it out. To be honest I don't use burst mode at all in arenas, as my settings are done so that it nukes straight from the off.
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Would you share those settings?
 
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