Will you buy a new key if you had a lifetime key?

[Catmeat]

You do realize that without Blizzard, there is nothing for you to bot...Right? Blizzard and wow will be here long after Bossland is out of business.

And again, what exactly has Bossland done to deserve your gratitude? I guess Bossland must've invented wow just so you could bot it. I know the gratitude can't be for cancelling lifetime keys.

What on earth are you going on about? And again ... why are you here?

 

[Sevrep]

I don't plan on paying for another buddy product ever again.

I had 3 sessions lifetime for honorbuddy, a lifetime for demonbuddy and a lifetime for hearthbuddy.

I feel pretty burnt that I just lost all of them.

And I had been banned on multiple wow accounts from using hb.

It was pretty fun while it lasted I guess.

 

[ThePunisher]

The call was made, please move on with your lives and understand, that the decision was made for the greater good.

No

NO

and

 

[Kuat]

I would buy a key if the fucking bot wasn't detectable by BLizzard scans.

 

[Kuat]

Funny thing about "Lifetime Clauses"

About 2 years ago i made a post somewhere on this forum telling the bot devs that a "lifetime key" was a bad business decision.

Everyone knows that you make money on recurring payments (i.e. subscription type)

If there had not been a "pay once - use forever" option, Bossland would have made MUCH more money during those years with people paying a subscription fee every month.

Ofc. my post was ignored. And now we have this (lifetime key revoke)

Learn 2 business.

 

[Kuat]

The option was kill the lifetime sub, or Kill HB. Instead of being greatful that HB will be continuing, so many of you jump on this bandwagon that honestly makes you sound VERY self entitled.

It's not as much an issue about the money as a feeling of being betrayed. Like you're are shit to them instead of a valued customer.

Hey, I lost a lifetime key, but you know what? I got more value out of it than what I paid for it. So did each and every one of you. You jumped on something because you thought it was a steal, and now that you cant ride out that steal, you are acting very upset.

You make it sound like it's our fault that the owners are retards and don't understand basic business models. It was THEIR decision to offer lifetime keys (for whatever stupid fucking reason, maybe a quick cash grab, i don't know.)

 

[chtpm]

I had 17 keys and only used around 4. Why would I buy more? I did however buy 3 year accounts when my lifetimes expired. I would've NEVER game Bossland more money otherwise.

 

[phazeshifta123]

Funny thing about "Lifetime Clauses" since i see alot of you talking blindly trying to throw out rules of lifetime subs.

When the core infastructure of Honorbuddy Changed from revision 1 to revision 2 (like gatherbuddy 1 - 2) i am not talking about patches, but when the core programming changes so much from its original basis, when the lifetime subscriptions are released, then the lifetime of THAT product is over. Just like if the conditions of a job changes dramatically from when the job is offered, a new job offer/agreement must be drawn up. You cannot change the base model of a car during a lease, without changing the specifics of that lease. Why? Because it becomes something else than the original product.

The option was kill the lifetime sub, or Kill HB. Instead of being greatful that HB will be continuing, so many of you jump on this bandwagon that honestly makes you sound VERY self entitled.

Hey, I lost a lifetime key, but you know what? I got more value out of it than what I paid for it. So did each and every one of you. You jumped on something because you thought it was a steal, and now that you cant ride out that steal, you are acting very upset. I get it, it sucks, but if you are only here for a cheap key, then you really don't care about the future of the product or the community, then you don't want that support.

Also, you bought a lifetime key, but you never bought the support, the countless hours of updates, none of that, you bought a key for a specific product, so maybe you should get your keys, for that version that was released when you got it, and maybe instead you should be forced to pay for each time you need support.

But I digress, I could point out a million ways that your thinking has been very shallow minded at best, but the argument is a waste of time when you guys just want a reason to complain honestly.

The call was made, please move on with your lives and understand, that the decision was made for the greater good.

I guess I'll spend the next 10 minutes pointing out exactly how you're wrong and how your bias has blinded you to that fact...

You're right that our lifetime keys maybe should've been invalidated when major portions of the bot were changed. You're right that a new contract should've been written up. The simple fact was that the HB team made literally hundreds of changes to the bot that should've invalidated the lifetime keys over the years, yet none of us received a new contract to sign with the updated changes.. Many of us bought lifetime keys when HB1 was out. We went completely through HB2 without our lifetime keys being invalidated and almost 6+ months of HB3 before the keys were invalidated. A company can't randomly say the contract is null and void without providing a new contract for us to accept or not accept. And since you are invalidating our contracts, you are also obligated to offer refunds for the breach of contract that occurred.

None of us should be grateful for HB. Bossland and you should be grateful for us and the business and more importantly money we provided you. Botters would be using a bot regardless of you being here or not, whereas you would not have a business without us. That's a fact. We are acting entitled because we are entitled.

You are in absolutely no position to tell me the value of a product, especially your own. Just because you feel you got your value's worth, none of us have to agree with you.

As a matter of fact, we did pay for every single one of the things you seem to think that we didn't pay for. Our keys entitled us to every single one of those services because you specifically provided those things to us with our key purchases....I'd absolutely love to see you start charging a fee for every time you provide your worthless support. Lets see how long that will keep you in business.

And speaking of shallow mindedness, maybe you should go talk to Bossland about his shallow-minded attitude. Let's also keep in mind that Bossland himself very clearly said that this is nothing but a money-grab by him.When people started calling him out on his BS, that's when he started coming up with the excuses about how our contracts were invalidated when the changes were made.

Maybe it's time for you to move on with your life and find some new employment. Bossland will be out of business when the next court fees from the UK come anyways, so it would probably be best for you to start looking for another job...You're terrible at this one anyways.

 

[Naxxxy]

i went crazy when they did it... so my old forum account got banned , but there is no better bot then honorbuddy. you will get banned no matter what bot you use. i tried to go and use another bot with unlimited sessions 1 ip and tried that for 1 hr... jumped on a whole year and i felt it was very far behind honorbuddy to much mistakes and shitt all over it was screaming bot so even a monkey culd have seen it. so i came back and bought 6 new sessions for 1 year.

and honorbuddy has made me far more then what ive paid for the bot so... i tried to say sorry and maybe my forum ban would be lifted but when i log into that one it still say never

 

[EleGiggle]

Maybe it's time for you to move on with your life and find some new employment. Bossland will be out of business when the next court fees from the UK come anyways, so it would probably be best for you to start looking for another job...You're terrible at this one anyways.

And maybe it's time for you to pack your bags and leave this forum mate? I think THAT would be an awesome idea.

 

[Hans-peter]

I did, was always satisfied with them, sure i lost accounts, but i give a fu** because made sooo much money with them.
And in these hard times i stand behind them.

 

[Frayman]

And now I see on other forums people saying they would pay $25 per month! For a bottling platform.

Sheesh. Not this cowboy.

 

[botster]

31 subscriptions of honorbuddy

in the last 2 years and several monthly subscriptions of their other bot exilebuddy.

no longer buying anything from here. ive spent well over 700$ abd recently 250$ (3 months) so I guess instead of them fixing or giving me some 1 month subscriptions they have removed my lifetimes, I mean I supported them back when they used my money to make this company great us the customers made this possible for them.
in 60 mins they had 17 new order numbers once I placed my second order. Besides a lot of the profiles and plugins are done by the community, forum work is done by volunteer for the most part ect. Ive seen some botbases fixed by randoms more than HB company like the bot buddy its never updated might aswell remove it. so... hurting for money no.


by any walk of life saying something is life time then saying its 2 years and if you've already used it then less than that is a big blow.If the reason is based off the lawsuit well you knew this would happen, should of planned and most of all WARN US FOR ONCE and shut off our keys when your court ordered

I'm spending if I kept going 1250$ this year, but they have lost my business for 100$ and at that something that costs them nothing other than a lost 100$ that I wouldn't spend anyways so nothing lost to them but my 1250$ a year,
ive heard most have gone to that website that gives this software for a small 1 time fee.

lastly id feel different if the owner of the company didn't make this deal with me personally and second if I had made a profit, a few times I did but as of a more recent expansion I'm in the red so they don't know our situation and that has put the hurt on me. thirdly as ive purchased so many keys that's a lot for me to lose when I expected them to be lifetime. I mean 700$ in honorbuddy alone is a lot to me...

I mean I am and was loyal to this company fully knowing I could get the same software for a small 1 time fee on a cheat site which wont be named.


well that's my two cents - I see both sides but some compermise could of been done, no life time but more subscriptions or a subscription to a bot that's not under lawsuit like they've done for path of exile like a year or two ago. but honorbuddy doesn't get that?

 

[botster]

Funny thing about "Lifetime Clauses" since i see alot of you talking blindly trying to throw out rules of lifetime subs.

When the core infastructure of Honorbuddy Changed from revision 1 to revision 2 (like gatherbuddy 1 - 2) i am not talking about patches, but when the core programming changes so much from its original basis, when the lifetime subscriptions are released, then the lifetime of THAT product is over. Just like if the conditions of a job changes dramatically from when the job is offered, a new job offer/agreement must be drawn up. You cannot change the base model of a car during a lease, without changing the specifics of that lease. Why? Because it becomes something else than the original product.

The option was kill the lifetime sub, or Kill HB. Instead of being greatful that HB will be continuing, so many of you jump on this bandwagon that honestly makes you sound VERY self entitled.

Hey, I lost a lifetime key, but you know what? I got more value out of it than what I paid for it. So did each and every one of you. You jumped on something because you thought it was a steal, and now that you cant ride out that steal, you are acting very upset. I get it, it sucks, but if you are only here for a cheap key, then you really don't care about the future of the product or the community, then you don't want that support.

Also, you bought a lifetime key, but you never bought the support, the countless hours of updates, none of that, you bought a key for a specific product, so maybe you should get your keys, for that version that was released when you got it, and maybe instead you should be forced to pay for each time you need support.

But I digress, I could point out a million ways that your thinking has been very shallow minded at best, but the argument is a waste of time when you guys just want a reason to complain honestly.

The call was made, please move on with your lives and understand, that the decision was made for the greater good.

really dude saying if you update it from a number 1 to a version two we are out of luck on lifetimes where was that said? or was it super small on the last payment page? also the little of me that sees any sense in what your saying is you allow the life timers to access a working version of the old program and then offer a new up to date product for new purchase subscription rules. life time of the program, its not our fault it needs to be updated for patchs but you do that for the new program with new subscription money and copy it over to the lesser bot but no real coding updates.

but hey anyone who purchases from now on does it because they have to which sucks or because their new.

don't try to defend something where you know its kinda wrong, I ask a couple lawyer friends over text saying I plan to limit life time customer to a 2 year discount and he told me that would be a scam.

 

[Tony]

31 subscriptions of honorbuddy

in the last 2 years and several monthly subscriptions of their other bot exilebuddy.

no longer buying anything from here. ive spent well over 700$ abd recently 250$ (3 months) so I guess instead of them fixing or giving me some 1 month subscriptions they have removed my lifetimes, I mean I supported them back when they used my money to make this company great us the customers made this possible for them.
in 60 mins they had 17 new order numbers once I placed my second order. Besides a lot of the profiles and plugins are done by the community, forum work is done by volunteer for the most part ect. Ive seen some botbases fixed by randoms more than HB company like the bot buddy its never updated might aswell remove it. so... hurting for money no.


by any walk of life saying something is life time then saying its 2 years and if you've already used it then less than that is a big blow.If the reason is based off the lawsuit well you knew this would happen, should of planned and most of all WARN US FOR ONCE and shut off our keys when your court ordered

I'm spending if I kept going 1250$ this year, but they have lost my business for 100$ and at that something that costs them nothing other than a lost 100$ that I wouldn't spend anyways so nothing lost to them but my 1250$ a year,
ive heard most have gone to that website that gives this software for a small 1 time fee.

lastly id feel different if the owner of the company didn't make this deal with me personally and second if I had made a profit, a few times I did but as of a more recent expansion I'm in the red so they don't know our situation and that has put the hurt on me. thirdly as ive purchased so many keys that's a lot for me to lose when I expected them to be lifetime. I mean 700$ in honorbuddy alone is a lot to me...

I mean I am and was loyal to this company fully knowing I could get the same software for a small 1 time fee on a cheat site which wont be named.


well that's my two cents - I see both sides but some compermise could of been done, no life time but more subscriptions or a subscription to a bot that's not under lawsuit like they've done for path of exile like a year or two ago. but honorbuddy doesn't get that?

i would like to see the profit you made out of those 950$ as well

 

[ThePunisher]

Great long post TLR

Things are simpler than they seem.

Do you even think you are right, more than hundreds even thousands people on this forum? hahahahah

Heres a cookie, now go back to your mommy!!!