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[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

zimmy130 said:
How does one go about figuring out what to tweak and what number to tweak to?
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Millz has provided us with many options we can tweak / change. In terms of basic changes you will play with as destruction are the following:

1) Minimum health the mob has to cast Immolate on
2) Minimum hp of mob to cast chaos bolt.
3) When to use Dark Soul: Instability

Here is what I would put as a general setup but it may change based on the fight. Think about the mechanics of the fight and what will work best for you. This also depends on gear. If something is going to die faster then 10 seconds, probably don't immolate it. If something is going to die before your chaos bolt goes off, don't cast chaos bolt

Rough guidelines - tweak as needed:

Immolate: Solo 500,000 hp minimum - 5 Man Heroic 1,500,000 hp minimum - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 5,500,000 - SoO 25 Normal 10,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 10,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 15,000,000

Chaos Bolt: Solo 0 (no minimum) - 5 Man Heroic 700,000 - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 3,000,000 - SoO 25 Normal 5,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 4,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 6,000,000

Dark Soul Instability: Think about the fight and when you want it to be used. If the setting is "Use On Boss" you will not cast dark soul until you're fighting a boss. On a lot of fights that is great BUT on fights like Galkaras you won't use dark soul until he comes down. On Spoils of Pandaria Dark Soul won't be used until a boss box is opened. Depending on what you want those may be the best options. I prefer to put "Use On Cooldown" on those fights. When you are solo grinding use on cooldown makes more sense as well.
 
dsl1 said:
Millz has provided us with many options we can tweak / change. In terms of basic changes you will play with as destruction are the following:

1) Minimum health the mob has to cast Immolate on
2) Minimum hp of mob to cast chaos bolt.
3) When to use Dark Soul: Instability

Here is what I would put as a general setup but it may change based on the fight. Think about the mechanics of the fight and what will work best for you. This also depends on gear. If something is going to die faster then 10 seconds, probably don't immolate it. If something is going to die before your chaos bolt goes off, don't cast chaos bolt

Rough guidelines - tweak as needed:

Immolate: Solo 500,000 hp minimum - 5 Man Heroic 1,500,000 hp minimum - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 5,500,000 - SoO 25 Normal 10,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 10,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 15,000,000

Chaos Bolt: Solo 0 (no minimum) - 5 Man Heroic 700,000 - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 3,000,000 - SoO 25 Normal 5,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 4,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 6,000,000

Dark Soul Instability: Think about the fight and when you want it to be used. If the setting is "Use On Boss" you will not cast dark soul until you're fighting a boss. On a lot of fights that is great BUT on fights like Galkaras you won't use dark soul until he comes down. On Spoils of Pandaria Dark Soul won't be used until a boss box is opened. Depending on what you want those may be the best options. I prefer to put "Use On Cooldown" on those fights. When you are solo grinding use on cooldown makes more sense as well.
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Thank you for the great information! Very much appreciated!!
 
xratedownz said:
Millz, Here is the problems :)

- When target has hand of protection cr stops
- Shadowfury on healer not working always.
- Hotkeys are not working.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kut2j76exctob2r/1812 2013-12-21 14.00.txt
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Thanks.

- HoP -> Will fix this.
- Shadowfury -> It looks like it's working most of the time, there's quite a lot of errors at one point in the log file though when it's tried to use Shadowfury - I'll get these fixed too. Could be the cause.
- Hotkeys are working - must be something up with your machine. TeamViewer breaks hotkeys, there's likely other apps that can break it too.
 
dsl1 said:
Also, observer as your pet if you're going supremacy.
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This is actually not true. I've tested pets pretty well and for dps, the imp did the most dps. I use to use the observer, but when I switched to the imp, I was continually doing more dps. In a 5 min strait dps fight, I was doing 5 mil more dmg then the observer. Every time. But that is just me. You can test this yourself.

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Sin702 said:
This is actually not true. I've tested pets pretty well and for dps, the imp did the most dps. I use to use the observer, but when I switched to the imp, I was continually doing more dps. In a 5 min strait dps fight, I was doing 5 mil more dmg then the observer. Every time. But that is just me. You can test this yourself.

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Raid buffed they are essentially equal with Observer coming out slightly on top: Simulationcraft Results

If you're using the imp on a dummy and not attacking yourself, recount pauses between imp attacks and gives you a higher dps BUT you didn't actually do any more damage.

Comes down to the utility of the silence vs the dispell AND if the observer can stay on the target as well as the imp.
 
dsl1 said:
Raid buffed they are essentially equal with Observer coming out slightly on top: Simulationcraft Results

If you're using the imp on a dummy and not attacking yourself, recount pauses between imp attacks and gives you a higher dps BUT you didn't actually do any more damage.

Comes down to the utility of the silence vs the dispell AND if the observer can stay on the target as well as the imp.
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High add count will always put imp on top due to the lack off movement between them unlike the observer.

EDIT: Should so NEARLY always
 
bretto87 said:
CR is still not working for me.. wont cast anything just stands there.. have updated everything
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well good sir, i shall have a look into my liitle crystal ball here and tell you what the solution to your unidentified problem is....

seriously thou - log?
 
file is to big wont let me upload ill figure it out i did notice this in there. no idea if thats a problem though

[09:07:32.190 D] Exception thrown in Root.Tick
[09:07:32.190 D] System.MissingFieldException: Field not found: 'Styx.CommonBot.SpellFindResults.Override'.
at A.c8ef24a5df0d1a5d531aa8727eb49bf0b.c3411b606ed17ce8cf5395ca5b0ef82e5(String , WoWUnit , Boolean , Boolean )
at A.c8ef24a5df0d1a5d531aa8727eb49bf0b.c7ec77103e65d1671fa04e4cdb3d9545c.c35a3468e733f3c034409baa4241b45a5(Object )
 
bretto87 said:
file is to big wont let me upload ill figure it out i did notice this in there. no idea if thats a problem though

[09:07:32.190 D] Exception thrown in Root.Tick
[09:07:32.190 D] System.MissingFieldException: Field not found: 'Styx.CommonBot.SpellFindResults.Override'.
at A.c8ef24a5df0d1a5d531aa8727eb49bf0b.c3411b606ed17ce8cf5395ca5b0ef82e5(String , WoWUnit , Boolean , Boolean )
at A.c8ef24a5df0d1a5d531aa8727eb49bf0b.c7ec77103e65d1671fa04e4cdb3d9545c.c35a3468e733f3c034409baa4241b45a5(Object )
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You need to update the routine from SVN. Right click on the Demonic folder -> Update From SVN.

It'll work then :)
 
getting this from the website also

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bretto87 said:
getting this from the website also

You are temporarily locked out

You have been temporarily locked out of this system. This means that you will not be able to sign-in or use several other features that may compromise security. Please try back in a short while.
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Sent you a PM
 
[22/Dec/2013]
- [Affliction] Will now pool shards for 20 seconds before Dark Soul will become active.
- [Affliction] Tuning to Haunt usage.
- [Affliction] Will now cast Soulburn: Soul Swap when we have more trinket procs active than the last cast of SB:SS (and Dark Soul is active).
- [Affliction] Will now cast Soulburn: Soul Swap when our auras are about to expire and Dark Soul is active.
- [Affliction] Will now Life Tap more often when we don't have Dark Soul / Haunt active.
- Please note: Changes above require the Aura List to be populated.
 
Millz said:
[22/Dec/2013]
- [Affliction] Will now pool shards for 20 seconds before Dark Soul will become active.
- [Affliction] Tuning to Haunt usage.
- [Affliction] Will now cast Soulburn: Soul Swap when we have more trinket procs active than the last cast of SB:SS (and Dark Soul is active).
- [Affliction] Will now cast Soulburn: Soul Swap when our auras are about to expire and Dark Soul is active.
- [Affliction] Will now Life Tap more often when we don't have Dark Soul / Haunt active.
- Please note: Changes above require the Aura List to be populated.
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Any more thoughts on values to put for using Soul Swap?
 
dsl1 said:
Millz has provided us with many options we can tweak / change. In terms of basic changes you will play with as destruction are the following:

1) Minimum health the mob has to cast Immolate on
2) Minimum hp of mob to cast chaos bolt.
3) When to use Dark Soul: Instability

Here is what I would put as a general setup but it may change based on the fight. Think about the mechanics of the fight and what will work best for you. This also depends on gear. If something is going to die faster then 10 seconds, probably don't immolate it. If something is going to die before your chaos bolt goes off, don't cast chaos bolt

Rough guidelines - tweak as needed:

Immolate: Solo 500,000 hp minimum - 5 Man Heroic 1,500,000 hp minimum - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 5,500,000 - SoO 25 Normal 10,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 10,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 15,000,000

Chaos Bolt: Solo 0 (no minimum) - 5 Man Heroic 700,000 - SoO Normal 10 / LFR - 3,000,000 - SoO 25 Normal 5,000,000 - SoO 10 Heroic - 4,000,000 - SoO 25 Heroic - 6,000,000

Dark Soul Instability: Think about the fight and when you want it to be used. If the setting is "Use On Boss" you will not cast dark soul until you're fighting a boss. On a lot of fights that is great BUT on fights like Galkaras you won't use dark soul until he comes down. On Spoils of Pandaria Dark Soul won't be used until a boss box is opened. Depending on what you want those may be the best options. I prefer to put "Use On Cooldown" on those fights. When you are solo grinding use on cooldown makes more sense as well.
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Using nearly same settings.
Currently I'm 570 troll lock with 9/14h progress with Immersus and khardix trinkets and thing i want to discuss is aura list settings.

As of ice-veins guides and simcraft i have disabled RoF cast with all kind of proc auras:
("RoF Single Target (Procs - Advanced tab) and (RoF Everything in Range(Procs - Advanced tab))
in my Aura list all proc auras for RoF are disabled.

My proc auras for chaosbolt are only Skull Banner, trincket procs and Dark Soul proc. I dont see ant other conditions that my lock shud waste embers for.
Ways i could improve it?
 
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