[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

[Millz]

What are the min max values of "<Demonology_DoomRefresh>32000</Demonology_DoomRefresh>" ?

tried to increase it a bit on demo settings, but that causes HB to crash

Use the GUI?

 

[dreameria]

i did, crashed and then searched it from the settings to test it out but no help, same result. keeps crashing

 

[Millz]

i did, crashed and then searched it from the settings to test it out but no help, same result. keeps crashing

Crashing? Can you post a log file, it shouldn't be crashing.

 

[Sk1vvy]

[27/Jul/2013 - Premium]
- Demonology: Lots of changes, too many to list. Should now be performing competitively.

not now CR don't use DS and Imp of Swarm because spend all fury for form switching and molten core procs. value for meta set to 651-900. But CR use Meta on 150-250, spend all on molten core procs
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0vwbd59438xrsx8/6104 2013-07-27 23.12.txt
Great dots uptime, but dps <65k

 

[Millz]

not now CR don't use DS and Imp of Swarm because spend all fury for form switching and molten core procs. value for meta set to 651-900. But CR use Meta on 150-250, spend all on molten core procs
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0vwbd59438xrsx8/6104 2013-07-27 23.12.txt
Great dots uptime, but dps <65k

Change DS to on cooldown or on boss/player.

 

[jeremytyler662]

Affliction seems to work fine questing. Demonology is using metamorphosis way too early like its ignoring the settings in the config and ends up doing nothing 90% of the time in metamorphosis. Haven't tested destro yet. Here is the log.

 

[goldconsumer2013]

where can i get the paid version?

 

[Millz]

Affliction seems to work fine questing. Demonology is using metamorphosis way too early like its ignoring the settings in the config and ends up doing nothing 90% of the time in metamorphosis. Haven't tested destro yet. Here is the log.

Damn, that's a fail on my behalf. It'll work at level 36 (once you get Doom). I had it listed as level 32. I'll fix it for the next update.

*Edit* Nevermind should be fixed now. Update from SVN.

[27/Jul/2013 - Update #2]
- Demonology: Should now work for under level 36.

 

[jeremytyler662]

Damn, that's a fail on my behalf. It'll work at level 36 (once you get Doom). I had it listed as level 32. I'll fix it for the next update.

ok awesome I just hit 36 so I'll test again

EDIT: It is definitely working great now.

 

[Millz]

ok awesome I just hit 36 so I'll test again

Posted inbetween my edit. Should work for under 36's now, but yeah, let me know how you get on.

 

[Tappedout]

As Demo spec I noticed when using grimoire of service it is using the felhound and not another fel guard. Is there a reason for this?

I disabled aoe so I could test single target on dummies 525 ilvl and its only pulling avg dps 95k. I don't have meta or unerring.

 

[jeremytyler662]

Nevermind had VW on passive

 

[Millz]

As Demo spec I noticed when using grimoire of service it is using the felhound and not another fel guard. Is there a reason for this?

I disabled aoe so I could test single target on dummies 525 ilvl and its only pulling avg dps 95k. I don't have meta or unerring.

Yeah, still haven't gotton around to putting the option in. It is on the to-do list, got a bit distracted with Demo spec.

Can you PM me with your armory link? Be interesting to see what SimulationCraft thinks you should be able to do.

I'm not convinced using the Molten Core procs in Metamorphosis form is the right thing to do. It doesn't allow any pooling of fury for when CD's are up again. If you don't - then it does mean the procs will drop off though.

 

[bennyquest]

Well, It can use a few of them outside of meta. Just so it does not cap, or drop the stacks of MC. Also if you use some out of meta generates fury for darksoul.

 

[Millz]

Well, It can use a few of them outside of meta. Just so it does not cap, or drop the stacks of MC. Also if you use some out of meta generates fury for darksoul.

I'll make a load of settings tomorrow. People can then test themselves and ill update the default settings with whatever seems to work best.

 

[bennyquest]

Ha Ha, ok buddy. Demonology is a hard spec to code too many variables with meta form.

 

[Sk1vvy]

Change DS to on cooldown or on boss/player.

i set DS on Meta and Boss, because without Meta our DS piece of ....
you don't understand me.. i'll try to explain: we begin the fight. we need accumulate around 900 rage for using Meta + DS + Imp of Swarm. But we can't do this (mb with lowhaste and without t15), because we always have molten core procs from Hand of Guldan and our imps (yes, imp of swarm isn't cooldown, so they can proc). CR use Meta (rage), touch of chaos for corruption update and damage (rage) and 1-2 molten core procs (80 rage each). i damage dummy around 20 minutes. and i can't ger more when 500 rage because CR always waste rage for molten core procs. you need condition.. something like "check DS cooldown (2 minutes or 80 sec with 4t14), if cooldown more whan 30 sec then use molten core procs (not always in meta because it's +30 rage), if less whan 30 sec then we need 900+ rage then DS + Imp of Swarm + Doom if needed + touch of chaos if needed + molten core procs".
i think what your char have many haste rating so you can accumulate 900 rage with your conditions. But me (and many others) don't have rppm trinkets so we don't need many haste, crit priority. and we can't assume 900+ rage and can't use DS and Imp of Swarm with full rage. instead these CD waste of dps

 

[phaedrus]

i set DS on Meta and Boss, because without Meta our DS piece of ....
you don't understand me.. i'll try to explain: we begin the fight. we need accumulate around 900 rage for using Meta + DS + Imp of Swarm. But we can't do this (mb with lowhaste and without t15), because we always have molten core procs from Hand of Guldan and our imps (yes, imp of swarm isn't cooldown, so they can proc). CR use Meta (rage), touch of chaos for corruption update and damage (rage) and 1-2 molten core procs (80 rage each). i damage dummy around 20 minutes. and i can't ger more when 500 rage because CR always waste rage for molten core procs. you need condition.. something like "check DS cooldown (2 minutes or 80 sec with 4t14), if cooldown more whan 30 sec then use molten core procs (not always in meta because it's +30 rage), if less whan 30 sec then we need 900+ rage then DS + Imp of Swarm + Doom if needed + touch of chaos if needed + molten core procs".
i think what your char have many haste rating so you can accumulate 900 rage with your conditions. But me (and many others) don't have rppm trinkets so we don't need many haste, crit priority. and we can't assume 900+ rage and can't use DS and Imp of Swarm with full rage. instead these CD waste of dps

totally agree

 

[zeldrak]

Where can I buy Premium version? What is the cost? And is there any presets for good Demonology rotation?

1. PM Millz
2. PM Millz
3. Demonology is currently being worked on, by Millz. It's currently competitive with Destruction.

 

[Tappedout]

Yeah, still haven't gotton around to putting the option in. It is on the to-do list, got a bit distracted with Demo spec.

Can you PM me with your armory link? Be interesting to see what SimulationCraft thinks you should be able to do.

I'm not convinced using the Molten Core procs in Metamorphosis form is the right thing to do. It doesn't allow any pooling of fury for when CD's are up again. If you don't - then it does mean the procs will drop off though.

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