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[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

Worked pretty good rotation wise for me. Unfortunatly i didnt have the gear for it. You got the haste it needs at your ilevel though. I love affliction but stuck in destro :(
 
Canax said:
Hi guys. Sorry if this question has all ready been asked, but at nearly 400 pages, it is getting hard to check:

I am considering buying the paid version.
Roughly, given an average fight, what would you estimate the damage difference between the paid and free version to be, as a percentage? If someone has the time, I would really appreciate recorded damage on the same boss, with the same gear, comparing both version.
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Sent you a PM.

jmas2k4 said:
Hey millz i just wanna say that i am happy with the way the premium bot works one small thing that i notice is that it chains chaos bolts together one thing that it should be doing is something like chaos bolt incinerate chaos bolt because bolt leaves a dot and you want to try and not clip them
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Clipping the DoT doesn't happen if you move back from the boss ;)

Chaos Bolts are only chain casted on trinket procs - and you won't want to waste the buffed stats on casting incinerate.
 
It aint a massive issue just makes soloing LK HC 25 a pita on p1 not sure if it's exclusive to hot key mode though which is what i use for the fight
 
1) Chaos should have priority over pandemic Immolate refresh. Had a few times last night where buffs would fall off when I had embers because Immolate was refreshing instead of Chaos. To correct put my refresh settings at 9000 so it never updated it.

2) Getting a double cast of chaos sometimes after havoc. Not a huge deal.

[13:57:34.211 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 75.6] [Embers: 3.4] [Casting: Immolate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 100.0%]
[13:57:35.699 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 91.7] [Embers: 2.5] [Casting: Conflagrate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 100.0%]
[13:57:36.820 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 79.1] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Training Dummy @ 40.0%]
[13:57:37.328 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83.9] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.8%]
[13:57:39.325 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 2.8] [Using Item: Gloves of the Horned Nightmare]
[13:57:39.329 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 2.8] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.8%]
[13:57:42.150 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 1.8] [Casting: Conflagrate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.9%]
[13:57:43.247 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 96] [Embers: 0.9] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.9%]

Both of those casted. Still once and a while getting an incinerate instead of a chaos when not moving with havoc as well.

3) Is there any logic in place for havoc with shadowburn?

4) In the opener. Why are we only casting 2 incinerates at the start? I know it was more and got changed at some point. Unless someone has an incredibly valid reason please make it 4 incinerates. This will help add some more consistency to the opener. Again immolate shouldn't be refreshed at this point.

Please make it Self Buffs -> Immolate -> Conflag x2 -> Incin x4 -> Chaos explosion of glory

We will never lose buff with this unless we get very unlucky and are much more likely to have gained a trinket proc / those with glyph of havoc get a double huge chaos. If you could switch this before raid tonight that would be awesome.


BTW: Got top 75 parses on Immersius, Galkaras, and Nazgrim heroic last night. 110th on Spoils.
 
dsl1 said:
1) Chaos should have priority over pandemic Immolate refresh. Had a few times last night where buffs would fall off when I had embers because Immolate was refreshing instead of Chaos. To correct put my refresh settings at 9000 so it never updated it.

2) Getting a double cast of chaos sometimes after havoc. Not a huge deal.

[13:57:34.211 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 75.6] [Embers: 3.4] [Casting: Immolate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 100.0%]
[13:57:35.699 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 91.7] [Embers: 2.5] [Casting: Conflagrate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 100.0%]
[13:57:36.820 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 79.1] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Havoc] [On: Training Dummy @ 40.0%]
[13:57:37.328 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 83.9] [Embers: 2.7] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.8%]
[13:57:39.325 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 2.8] [Using Item: Gloves of the Horned Nightmare]
[13:57:39.329 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 88] [Embers: 2.8] [Casting: Chaos Bolt] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.8%]
[13:57:42.150 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 100] [Embers: 1.8] [Casting: Conflagrate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.9%]
[13:57:43.247 N] [Demonic] [HP: 100] [Mana: 96] [Embers: 0.9] [Casting: Incinerate] [On: Raider's Training Dummy @ 99.9%]

Both of those casted. Still once and a while getting an incinerate instead of a chaos when not moving with havoc as well.

3) Is there any logic in place for havoc with shadowburn?

4) In the opener. Why are we only casting 2 incinerates at the start? I know it was more and got changed at some point. Unless someone has an incredibly valid reason please make it 4 incinerates. This will help add some more consistency to the opener. Again immolate shouldn't be refreshed at this point.

Please make it Self Buffs -> Immolate -> Conflag x2 -> Incin x4 -> Chaos explosion of glory

We will never lose buff with this unless we get very unlucky and are much more likely to have gained a trinket proc / those with glyph of havoc get a double huge chaos. If you could switch this before raid tonight that would be awesome.


BTW: Got top 75 parses on Immersius, Galkaras, and Nazgrim heroic last night. 110th on Spoils.
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1) Will fix

2) Will fix

3) Yeah, it'll use Shadowburn with Havoc when we have more or equal number of embers compared to Havoc charges. Not sure whether Shadowburn would always take priority ?

4) It was like this, but it was changed to how it is now as it was higher DPS.

Nice results with the rankings though :)
 
[02/Jan/2014]
- Chinese GUI updates.
- [Demonology] Will no longer cast Chaos Wave under burst mode.
- [Demonology] Suppressed a lot of logging to make the log files easier to read.
- [Destruction] Rain of Fire when all RoF settings disabled, and AoE disabled, should no longer be cast.
- [Destruction] Immolate now has a lower priority than Chaos Bolt/Shadowburn.
- [Destruction] Will no longer cast 2x Chaos Bolts in a row after casting Havoc.
- Stop casting logic (i.e. for Thok) now waits for 0.3s after the cast ends, rather than 1s.
 
Hello,

First of all, this really is a wonderful piece of work that you have done here.
I tried to find something on this topic, but was not successful. But I still have not understood how the hotkeys are used. Do I have to just press or do I have the press in connection with the modifier key. For example, the burst key, how exactly does that and what is changed. Sorry for all the questions. If these questions have already been answered I would also like to let me refer to it.

Excuse my bad English, I hope it has become clear what I want to ...
 
fu6b said:
Hello,

First of all, this really is a wonderful piece of work that you have done here.
I tried to find something on this topic, but was not successful. But I still have not understood how the hotkeys are used. Do I have to just press or do I have the press in connection with the modifier key. For example, the burst key, how exactly does that and what is changed. Sorry for all the questions. If these questions have already been answered I would also like to let me refer to it.

Excuse my bad English, I hope it has become clear what I want to ...
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Hey - Yeah - You need to press both the modifier and the key for the toggles. It'll print out into the game's chat window that it's activated.
 
Millz said:
1) Will fix

2) Will fix

3) Yeah, it'll use Shadowburn with Havoc when we have more or equal number of embers compared to Havoc charges. Not sure whether Shadowburn would always take priority ?

4) It was like this, but it was changed to how it is now as it was higher DPS.

Nice results with the rankings though :)
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Who said it was higher dps to chaos after two incinerates instead of four? 90% sure that's incorrect.

We want to build as many embers as we can during dark soul and ember dump with other procs. Chaosing early causes us to miss procs and we are using backdraft in a high haste situation on chaos instead of ember building.
 
dsl1 said:
Who said it was higher dps to chaos after two incinerates instead of four? 90% sure that's incorrect.

We want to build as many embers as we can during dark soul and ember dump with other procs. Chaosing early causes us to miss procs and we are using backdraft in a high haste situation on chaos instead of ember building.
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Not sure. I just tested it out manually, and with 4x incinerates, Toxic Power/Wrath of the Darkspear procs and drops off again before it gets to casting Chaos Bolts.
 
Would it be possible to add a toggle for it or something, so people could see how it works for them, maybe in some situations the other opener would work better.

Thanks
Millz said:
Not sure. I just tested it out manually, and with 4x incinerates, Toxic Power/Wrath of the Darkspear procs and drops off again before it gets to casting Chaos Bolts.
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Millz said:
Not sure. I just tested it out manually, and with 4x incinerates, Toxic Power/Wrath of the Darkspear procs and drops off again before it gets to casting Chaos Bolts.
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In a raid setting that won't happen unless you trigger toxic on the first opener incinerate.

More often then not it won't have procced yet and it gives you extra time for it to proc.

Also the havoc glyph is great on a lot of fights and you can't string two chaos bolts together after two incinerates unless everything crits. I know I have higher crit then just about anyone here and I rarely get two embers before it casts the first chaos. When I do it's my best openers.

Check any top parse and you'll see 3-4 incinerates first. If you want to make it a setting that's great. I'll play around and tell you what works best. I know it's more then 2 though.

EDIT: The more I think about this a setting would be really nice. For example, on fights where we lust at the start I would want 3 incinerates as it's going to be at the GCD anyway and better to use the backdraft on chaos. No lust or high haste reforge set I'd want it at 4 incinerates etc.
 
dsl1 said:
In a raid setting that won't happen unless you trigger toxic on the first opener incinerate.

More often then not it won't have procced yet and it gives you extra time for it to proc.

Also the havoc glyph is great on a lot of fights and you can't string two chaos bolts together after two incinerates unless everything crits. I know I have higher crit then just about anyone here and I rarely get two embers before it casts the first chaos. When I do it's my best openers.

Check any top parse and you'll see 3-4 incinerates first. If you want to make it a setting that's great. I'll play around and tell you what works best. I know it's more then 2 though.

EDIT: The more I think about this a setting would be really nice. For example, on fights where we lust at the start I would want 3 incinerates as it's going to be at the GCD anyway and better to use the backdraft on chaos. No lust or high haste reforge set I'd want it at 4 incinerates etc.
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Adding a setting.

For me, at ilvl 527;

old opener - 10m @ 131k
new/sparkuggz - 10m @ 121k

May just not really be beneficial until higher ilvl. Give it a go anyway.

[03/Jan/2014]
- Added debugging to print out aura list setup.
- Changes to targeting to prevent selecting non-player units in PvP zones.
- [Destruction] Added option to use Sparkuggz style opener of conflag x2 -> incinerate x4.
 
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