[PAID] [Warlock] Demonic - An Advanced Honorbuddy Warlock Routine [PvE/PvP]

[anonym23]

Played a lot of RBGs the last few days and I turned off the curses. It dots up faster and does a lot more dmg overall (like 2:1). With curses enabled it always tries to refresh curses before dotting. I find this logic not very effective when standing near 5+ (or even more) players that also get dispelled to re-apply curses first when it would be more useful to put up dots first.

 

[Ronso]

Millz, when we go for GoSac and sacrifice a Voidwalker, it gives us via Command Demon Shadow Bulwark 30% more health for 20 sec. Don't know if it's implemented, if not could you code it onto the routine? Just like any other defensive CD =D

Edit: I see it is coded onto the routine, but we can't controll (via GUI) when to use it

 

[ConflagrateCarl]

Ok, quick question. When you all are using Demonic in BG's or Arena...are you using BGBot/BGBuddy? Or are you using Tyrael? The reason I ask is I would assume you would want some control over your movement which would eliminate BGBuddy. I have no experience with BGBot so I'm not sure about that one. I have used Tyrael in BG's before when I want some control over my movement, but I guess I'm just really curious how people set this CR up for success in more "controlled" PvP situations.

 

[webhond]

Played a lot of RBGs the last few days and I turned off the curses. It dots up faster and does a lot more dmg overall (like 2:1). With curses enabled it always tries to refresh curses before dotting. I find this logic not very effective when standing near 5+ (or even more) players that also get dispelled to re-apply curses first when it would be more useful to put up dots first.

Tried this as well on t-dummy.

97 k while curses set to none and 80 k with curses on both on same settings and till 20 mil dmg done. That IS weird since curse of elements should provide 5% more dmg, not 10 % less.

Ok, quick question. When you all are using Demonic in BG's or Arena...are you using BGBot/BGBuddy? Or are you using Tyrael? The reason I ask is I would assume you would want some control over your movement which would eliminate BGBuddy. I have no experience with BGBot so I'm not sure about that one. I have used Tyrael in BG's before when I want some control over my movement, but I guess I'm just really curious how people set this CR up for success in more "controlled" PvP situations.

Tyrael with framelock on. All lag-stoppers and experimental can-cast on in advanced tab and go.

K?nnt ihr nicht mal IN DEUTSCH ?bersetzten......immer nur Englisch..dacht is deutsche Firma

No comment.....baby lost his bottle of milk? Oops... there, i did it...

 

[LuciferTyke]

This CR is amazing, i dumpster on people's DPS when my iLVL is much lower than theirs.

 

[ginuwine12]

K?nnt ihr nicht mal IN DEUTSCH ?bersetzten......immer nur Englisch..dacht is deutsche Firma

lol?

 

[Adababz]

Hey m8 as u asked

 

[webhond]

Just a comment on affliction. Last nights ( 1700 ) RBG's showed its working as intended and im happy i saw this. I destroyed warriors
and other locks / ( especially -> ) dk's bursting. Just sick.

One thing is that it looked like im on dope while running away having someone targeted behind me. Wondering
if its better to put facing on. But that would mean that the routine will turn, and thats not what you want when
running ( flag carrying fe ) away. It should dot, when running away, but not try to fear / ua / ect... cast. It looked like im on some epileptic trip.

Maybe something to think about, when not facing, and routine facing not ticked, dont cast? Or is this to much of a killer in the
routine.

Other option would be to lose target, but that is also not what u want.He is following you, so you need to handle it. Still dont know how to fix this.

For example, if cant cast for x times, lose current target? But then again, you could be behind a rock going los and you will lose him. Still you are
facing him, so it shouldnt look so epileptic then. Losing target then would be retarded. So i dont know. Any solution / recommendation greatly appreciated.

Cause if people look closely, they will see it.

Request to put sw in bg as well, automaticly after 20 secs. Not at the start cause it will be in a house or sum other weird place and wait with di till all are in.
Cause if people join one by one in a rbg, cant care about bg. Rbg players at higher rating are way more aware. It will di whenever someone pops in. Wait till 10 and then Di once?
This only at the start then. I think Mirabis calls it preparation. Cause during the fight, u want to rebuff when needed, even if only one.

I did put fear off, doing it manually. Curse on.



I was 3rd. 2nd warlock was in 2 blues, some pve gear and half pvp. Yup, dont ask me who invited him but he was on pair with me. I had more kills, that was nice to
see but he prolly was using it as well.

 

[Millz]

Hey Millz,

have you already taken a look at the Stop casting when Thok the Bloodthirsty is casting Deafening Screech?

If not, I can post you a log about it again later, since I will now go raiding from thok and the rest of the soo bosses.

I just made it stop casting any more once he's casting, but not actually cancel our cast. I'll change it so that it cancels our cast.

View attachment 106739

could you check if everything is ok on my log ?

i cant believe the 50k dps difference between destro and affli

thank you

It looks okay, hard to tell from a log but there's no errors in it. A lot of it is based upon gear though. Destruction is still the strongest spec at the moment however.

K?nnt ihr nicht mal IN DEUTSCH ?bersetzten......immer nur Englisch..dacht is deutsche Firma

As others have said - I'm English (and as with most English people, I only know English). No plans to make the GUI multi-lingual.

why wont this cr auto start seem i have to dot a player for it to start its rotation????

I'll add a setting to force combat. You can enable healing mode in Tyrael too as a temporary measure.

Millz, when we go for GoSac and sacrifice a Voidwalker, it gives us via Command Demon Shadow Bulwark 30% more health for 20 sec. Don't know if it's implemented, if not could you code it onto the routine? Just like any other defensive CD =D

Edit: I see it is coded onto the routine, but we can't controll (via GUI) when to use it

Yeah it does use it but I still need to expand the settings out. Think it's set to use on < 30% HP.

 

[Millz]

Hey m8 as u asked

It's using loads of chaos bolts because of your trinkets procing by the looks of it. I only use Chaos Bolts on +crit buffs, not just all procs.

[08:25:19.767 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] [Aura List] Chaos Bolt Allowed -> Wushoolay's Lightning Active.
[08:25:28.984 D] [Demonic ~ Debug] [Aura List] Chaos Bolt Allowed -> Breath of Many Minds Active.

Just a comment on affliction. Last nights ( 1700 ) RBG's showed its working as intended and im happy i saw this. I destroyed warriors
and other locks / ( especially -> ) dk's bursting. Just sick.

Good

One thing is that it looked like im on dope while running away having someone targeted behind me. Wondering
if its better to put facing on. But that would mean that the routine will turn, and thats not what you want when
running ( flag carrying fe ) away. It should dot, when running away, but not try to fear / ua / ect... cast. It looked like im on some epileptic trip.

Maybe something to think about, when not facing, and routine facing not ticked, dont cast? Or is this to much of a killer in the
routine.

Other option would be to lose target, but that is also not what u want.He is following you, so you need to handle it. Still dont know how to fix this.

For example, if cant cast for x times, lose current target? But then again, you could be behind a rock going los and you will lose him. Still you are
facing him, so it shouldnt look so epileptic then. Losing target then would be retarded. So i dont know. Any solution / recommendation greatly appreciated.

Cause if people look closely, they will see it.

May be difficult to work that one, as there's a lot of spells which can be cast when you aren't facing the target. Only good way around it I believe would be to build a list of everything which doesn't require you to be facing the target, then check facing but exclude those. Feel free to make a list

Request to put sw in bg as well, automaticly after 20 secs. Not at the start cause it will be in a house or sum other weird place and wait with di till all are in.
Cause if people join one by one in a rbg, cant care about bg. Rbg players at higher rating are way more aware. It will di whenever someone pops in. Wait till 10 and then Di once?
This only at the start then. I think Mirabis calls it preparation. Cause during the fight, u want to rebuff when needed, even if only one.

I've changed DI to only cast once per 10 seconds. Will stop the spamming. Not sure how I could handle the soul well as the preparation aura doesn't have a timer on it (i.e. I could say cast when time remaining on the buff is less than 45s).

I did put fear off, doing it manually. Curse on.



I was 3rd. 2nd warlock was in 2 blues, some pve gear and half pvp. Yup, dont ask me who invited him but he was on pair with me. I had more kills, that was nice to
see but he prolly was using it as well.

But how much crowd control was he doing? Was he applying curses? How much crowd controlling did he break ? How much healing did he require by not using defensive abilities?

Remember you're in a BG for utility and crowd control as well as damage. There's a big difference between a very skilled player (i.e. Demonic) verses an idiot who DoTs everything and makes life difficult for everyone else just to top the damage meters.

 

[sholee]

If you could only fix the casting and moving thingy on free version it would be badass... like for destro it would work like a charm again

 

[Millz]

If you could only fix the casting and moving thingy on free version it would be badass... like for destro it would work like a charm again

Hey - I've made a quick fix to resolve this - Update and give it a go, should be fine now.

 

[Millz]

Am I missing anything? None of these changes are on the SVN yet.


- Fixed an issue where the routine would pause in PvE if a monk cast Touch of Karma on the target.
- [PvE] Cancel cast if target is casting an interupt spell - i.e Thok the Bloodthirsty
- Raid buffs will now only cast once every 10 seconds maximum to prevent spamming.
- [Affliction] Prevent spam casting Soul Swap Exhale on an invalid unit causing the routine to lock up momentarily.
- Added setting to force combat
- Minor changes to PreCombatBuffBehavior.
- Changes to RestBehavior to encourage Honorbuddy to wait while it's busy.

 

[anyemo]

i cant get this to work at all, i had it started up onces but didnt really have time to set it up so swapped back to the stock routine, but then after the lastest update and i wanted to try again i cant get it to work as soon as i try and config it honorbuddy crshes with something aout value should be value

 

[webhond]

May be difficult to work that one, as there's a lot of spells which can be cast when you aren't facing the target. Only good way around it I believe would be to build a list of everything which doesn't require you to be facing the target, then check facing but exclude those. Feel free to make a list

Spells to cast which need facing:

Banish ( depending on what pet is on you )
Drain life ( can be turned off in GUI so shouldnt be to much of an issue, but then it wont ever use it )
Drain soul
Fear ( can be turned off as well, still having [any] and [any casting healing spells] ticked makes it worse if a dps and a healer are following you )
Fel Flame ( cause it is auto used while running and nothing else to do )
Haunt
Malefic grasp
Soul swap
Seed of Corruption
Unstable Affliction

Hmmm.. when i see this list now this means its all but your dots and Shadowfury/ howl of terror. Still i believe if this IS possible and easy to do, i mean.. dont go out of your way
to try and make this, it will be better. You wont look like some epileptic pixelcompilation when trying to nuke something behind you. Which you obviously need to keep as your
target to cc / dot etc. Also when you are nuking a warrior and that faceroll dk grips you to the other side of the map you are most likely not facing your last target anymore resulting
again in epileptic movement.

Locks are more and more used to flag carry and its common to have a zoo on you then.

I've changed DI to only cast once per 10 seconds. Will stop the spamming. Not sure how I could handle the soul well as the preparation aura doesn't have a timer on it (i.e. I could say cast when time remaining on the buff is less than 45s).

Its not needed, no problem to cast it myself, was just wondering if one easy fix was possible to do so. Thanks for the DI change.

But how much crowd control was he doing? Was he applying curses? How much crowd controlling did he break ? How much healing did he require by not using defensive abilities?

Remember you're in a BG for utility and crowd control as well as damage. There's a big difference between a very skilled player (i.e. Demonic) verses an idiot who DoTs everything and makes life difficult for everyone else just to top the damage meters.

Very true. I did put fear off as well and did it manually. Didn't really see his crowd control as i didnt pay attention to it. Just some kudo's since i said before that
affliction wasnt working for me, and all of a sudden, boom... im destroying people. Saw he did a shitload ( compared to mine ) of agony tho, so he wasnt swapping, just hardcasting.
Think also turning off fear did the trick. That 1.5 sec cast every 10 secs means a 9 sec per minute dps loss. And i think thats a lot. So better fear manually.

 

[Goshinki]

Still missing a lot of DPS in RBGs with Affliction. Lot's of errors in log.

https://skydrive.live.com/?mkt=en-US&v=FirstRunView#cid=98F0D3A54794FCDE&id=98F0D3A54794FCDE!331

 

[Millz]

i cant get this to work at all, i had it started up onces but didnt really have time to set it up so swapped back to the stock routine, but then after the lastest update and i wanted to try again i cant get it to work as soon as i try and config it honorbuddy crshes with something aout value should be value

Bad setting on Chaos Bolt.

Update from SVN - then delete the files under <Honorbuddy>/Settings/Demonic/*

Should work after that.

 

[Millz]

Spells to cast which need facing:

Banish ( depending on what pet is on you )
Drain life ( can be turned off in GUI so shouldnt be to much of an issue, but then it wont ever use it )
Drain soul
Fear ( can be turned off as well, still having [any] and [any casting healing spells] ticked makes it worse if a dps and a healer are following you )
Fel Flame ( cause it is auto used while running and nothing else to do )
Haunt
Malefic grasp
Soul swap
Seed of Corruption
Unstable Affliction

Hmmm.. when i see this list now this means its all but your dots and Shadowfury/ howl of terror. Still i believe if this IS possible and easy to do, i mean.. dont go out of your way
to try and make this, it will be better. You wont look like some epileptic pixelcompilation when trying to nuke something behind you. Which you obviously need to keep as your
target to cc / dot etc. Also when you are nuking a warrior and that faceroll dk grips you to the other side of the map you are most likely not facing your last target anymore resulting
again in epileptic movement.

Locks are more and more used to flag carry and its common to have a zoo on you then.




Its not needed, no problem to cast it myself, was just wondering if one easy fix was possible to do so. Thanks for the DI change.



Very true. I did put fear off as well and did it manually. Didn't really see his crowd control as i didnt pay attention to it. Just some kudo's since i said before that
affliction wasnt working for me, and all of a sudden, boom... im destroying people. Saw he did a shitload ( compared to mine ) of agony tho, so he wasnt swapping, just hardcasting.
Think also turning off fear did the trick. That 1.5 sec cast every 10 secs means a 9 sec per minute dps loss. And i think thats a lot. So better fear manually.

Will need to look into it more - I know Soul Swap doesn't require you to be facing the target though.

I use fear on units that used cool downs and healers - setting it to any just casts it way too much.

 

[sholee]

hey thnx for the update,but destro doesnt cast anything when moving if you dont have the KJC talent. Maybe set some fel flame when your moving to sqeeze some dps out of it... I know it costs mana but better then nothing

 

[Millz]

Still missing a lot of DPS in RBGs with Affliction. Lot's of errors in log.

https://skydrive.live.com/?mkt=en-US&v=FirstRunView#cid=98F0D3A54794FCDE&id=98F0D3A54794FCDE!331

Hmm, the errors aren't too concerning, I've checked them out and the majority come from when it's casting on units that have died between starting the cast sequence and finishing it, or the part which it checks incredibly fast (for non GCD abilities) - but what I'm most bothered about is the vast amount of Soul Swapping on pets. Most of the log file is casting DoTs on pets.

I'll disable Soul Swapping on pets and we'll see how it goes from there.