Video Card Workthrough w/ VMware

[NHK]

may i ask which Board/SSD and why u choosed to use multiple SSDs? (2-3 per vm?)
i mean 500GB is overkill anyway.

Yes, it's odd, why would you need 5x500gb. These alone will add about 1000 usd/eur to the cost of the rig, w/o adding any additional performance. Why not 1x500 or multiple SSD of lower capacity (if you want different hardware id's/distribute ssd usage more evenly)? Client size is only like 7-8 gb anyway. I guess that dude is just swimming in cash and wants everything maxed up no matter the cost.

On a side note, using newer VM version might be handy, because i've heard they can show multiple VM windows on the screen at the same time. The only downside of VM 7 is that you have to switch back and forth between VMs to see if bot/clients have crashed.

 

[DontBeAfraid]

Yes, it's odd, why would you need 5x500gb. These alone will add about 1000 usd/eur to the cost of the rig, w/o adding any additional performance. Why not 1x500 or multiple SSD of lower capacity (if you want different hardware id's/distribute ssd usage more evenly)? Client size is only like 7-8 gb anyway. I guess that dude is just swimming in cash and wants everything maxed up no matter the cost.

On a side note, using newer VM version might be handy, because i've heard they can show multiple VM windows on the screen at the same time. The only downside of VM 7 is that you have to switch back and forth between VMs to see if bot/clients have crashed.

well that computer was originally designed for another game to bot. with a 79gb sized client + windows + space for patches = 100gb +
and i dislike running more than 3 vms per disc.. so it made sense.
and well honestly.. 200-300 or 1000 for the discs..doesnt really matter since u can make that up in 1-2 weeks with botting.


just use vmplayer and not the workstation and you can have them all on your desktop next to each other if u please. works with all vmware versions.

 

[NHK]

well that computer was originally designed for another game to bot. with a 79gb sized client + windows + space for patches = 100gb +
and i dislike running more than 3 vms per disc.. so it made sense.

Yes, that makes sense.

and well honestly.. 200-300 or 1000 for the discs..doesnt really matter since u can make that up in 1-2 weeks with botting.

Not in this economy, unless you do 24/7 on 10-11 of your bots in a new league and sell all orbs to private buyers. But if you manage to get that $ now - good for you. I used to get ~1/2 of my exalteds from trade, selling good uniques and levelled gems. In the last 6-8 months GGG almost destroyed that, also removing eternal orb drops from the game. Shavronnes, Mjolners, Soul Takers etc used to cost x10-20 from current prices. Now they are dirt cheap (except for legacy items). I won't be surprised if soon they will go full Blizzard-mode, making all orbs BoA.

just use vmplayer and not the workstation and you can have them all on your desktop next to each other if u please. works with all vmware versions.

Well, i've tried the player and I was getting black screens due to "graphic adapter stopped working". Might be due to the shitty 2 gb GPU (my rig was also originally put together for a different game). With workstation these crashes happen too, but less often. Maybe upgrade to new workstation won't do any good, and i have to get a better GPU first.

 

[StrongBG]

10-11 per computer atm

no flickering. every 3rd day maybe i have a poe crash. randomly. i think that happens in those very rare situations where you get 10-11 times nashmesh making at the same time. then it seems 1 instance could crash.
but im not entirely sure since i never had the chance to observe it so far.

but besides that (which i dont consider a big deal) its pretty fine.

10-11 PER COMPUTER?How much computers do you have such as those?

 

[Dbuddy]

if only 1 part of your setup doesn't fit (doesn't matter hardware or software) you cannot run more than 3 or 4 VMs without troubles, crashes.

Thats why i asked which SSD and MoBo you use exactly.
Everyone who's running 4+ VM's on a medium-budget machine (like 3y old or something...) WITHOUT any troubles... respect...



If i would post all the things that can stop your bots from running smooth... OMG... this would be a endless list...

ISP, VPN, Windows, Drivers, the bot, the plugins, CPU, GPU, hard disk, PoE, patches.

I am always smiling a bit if i read something like "yo man, you get your money back with botting within XX weeks/months".

If you don't have a job, enough money to invest in hardware, no girlfriend, willing to spend XX hours for setup and configuration, TRADING.
Oh yes, then Botting is even better...

But if you can invest like 1 hour/day and think you can maintain a 5-10bot farm with a medium PC -> forget it.


you will loose too much time with troubleshooting and trading.

 

[DontBeAfraid]

10-11 PER COMPUTER?How much computers do you have such as those?

with the ones from my flatmate it's 8. we bot more games than poe tho. we are full time botters since years.




dunno, im running 2 pcs in poe atm. 24/7 per instance (not account).
once automation (vm batches boot alone - connects vpn alone - starts game + bot alone - closes all alone after xx hours - starts next vm batch and so on) is set up, once the bot config is done properly and once u start ignoring items and just go for raw currency - then poe is a neat afk botting game. i don't think i spend more than 90 min per day now.

the initial setting up was hard work. the testing and figuring out how to and such was a pain.
also copy pasting shit into all those vms was very annoying. especially when you realize you forgot something. the first 2 months were probably 10-20h work every day. (and to be said we have years experience in botting and actually know most tricks and clues - since its the same everywhere anyways mostly)

but now, once everything runs afk, it's pretty neat and profitable.


i'm going to take a coding class starting february. i guess that will improve things quite a bit as well.

 

[Tormiasz]

with the ones from my flatmate it's 8. we bot more games than poe tho. we are full time botters since years.




dunno, im running 2 pcs in poe atm. 24/7 per instance (not account).
once automation (vm batches boot alone - connects vpn alone - starts game + bot alone - closes all alone after xx hours - starts next vm batch and so on) is set up, once the bot config is done properly and once u start ignoring items and just go for raw currency - then poe is a neat afk botting game. i don't think i spend more than 90 min per day now.

the initial setting up was hard work. the testing and figuring out how to and such was a pain.
also copy pasting shit into all those vms was very annoying. especially when you realize you forgot something. the first 2 months were probably 10-20h work every day. (and to be said we have years experience in botting and actually know most tricks and clues - since its the same everywhere anyways mostly)

but now, once everything runs afk, it's pretty neat and profitable.


i'm going to take a coding class starting february. i guess that will improve things quite a bit as well.

That's why I made update server for my relloger <3

 

[LajtStyle]

Do you guys use something to detect if poe/exilebuddy is crashed and restart it if needed?

 

[Tormiasz]

I have built-in functionality for it in my relloger but I never seen poe or bot crashing.

 

[DontBeAfraid]

Do you guys use something to detect if poe/exilebuddy is crashed and restart it if needed?

yeah a simple autoit.exe, but like Tormiasz said, it isnt even really needed if you set up everything properly.

 

[Dbuddy]

short update:
i tried VM Workstation 12 with a I7 3770k and i failed...

first i had to fix the network settings and vmware tools.
after that i got way MORE PoE app crashes than before.
1 VM got some graphic bugs.

on the other side it improved my performance a little bit. but not worth it when you got more crashes -.-

 

[Tormiasz]

You may want to check your RAM. It's not normal that it's crashing so often.

 

[Dbuddy]

got 3x 8 GB Ram.
at ~60% load.

more than enough Disk space reserved for each VM.

SSD is already defragmented, each win7 installation is tweaked for best performance.


with 7.x VMWorkstation i only had like 1 crash every 3rd day...

but now ~3 crashes every day... -.-

*hm*

 

[Tormiasz]

I didn't say about memory usage but if it's damaged

 

[Dbuddy]

already ran Memtest a few times,
no problems detected.

 

[DontBeAfraid]

got 3x 8 GB Ram.
at ~60% load.

more than enough Disk space reserved for each VM.

SSD is already defragmented, each win7 installation is tweaked for best performance.


with 7.x VMWorkstation i only had like 1 crash every 3rd day...

but now ~3 crashes every day... -.-

*hm*

a ssd cant really be defragmented

how much ram do you assign to each vm. how does the ram usuage in % look inside the vms after running 30min +?


also did you create your vms with the version 12 vmware now, or did u just open the old vms with the new version? If so, that can cause those issues as well.
Also your issues can come from your windows iso potentially. some servicepacks/builds cause very weird errors and issues in vmware.

 

[Dbuddy]

win7 lite by nil. (64 bit)
i think i got 4 gig ram each VM (or 8?) dunno...
as far as i remember load is always fine each VM (like 60%)


which win7 iso u use? (you can also PM)

well... i can try and create a fresh VM ... thanks for the input.

1 hour work to set everything up *grrr* but.. if it helps....

 

[Tormiasz]

Try to add "-gc 2" or 1 as parameter to PoE launch shortcut.

 

[plzrepeat]

are cpu's with vt-x support still better?
I mean - like mentioned above: it's not possible to attach the gpu to more than 1 VM anyway...




for sure great performance, but 580€ ... this would hurt...
may i ask which Board/SSD and why u choosed to use multiple SSDs? (2-3 per vm?)
i mean 500GB is overkill anyway.

I have a Intel core i7-4770k. How many VM's do you think it can run with VMware 12?

 

[toNyx]

Defrag an SSD oh god, where am I, is this another planet ? Kappa