Unbanned.

[Demondog70]

The problem with those types of arguments is that *you* as the *parent* are legally responsible for any agreement your child enters into. So yes your child isn't legally able to be held responsible for any agreements he or she has made but you are. Which is why kids need to be taught certain things in this day and age of "click and agree"

Thanks.

 

[HBfanboy1980]

I've come to understand that anything involving a minor is up for interpretation by the the Judge.... talking about that is like discussing time travel. haha

 

[eigoteacher]

Ps contracts are like that body part on the rear of your body, almost any company can create something that looks good but some have no other purpose than letting crap out.

PS EIGO....you applying for a job at Blizz because I never seen someone defend them so adamantly,in vain I may add.

I will finish off my input into this topic with this. If Blizz has unbanned an account and its not just a stupid error its because they did something really wrong. My belief is even if they did they would fight it in court where they could put the evidence you need in a mountain of paperwork so high it might collect snow at the top even if given to you in the caribbean. Or they tie you up in so many legal crap your finances will run out before you even find out who you are sueing. This is how they roll.

I'm not defending them. I'm defending the law. Everyone is misinterpreting the law.

 

[AlwaysInPain]

I decided against contracting more aids from you. So imma edit my long quoted reply.

Your points are only valid IF:

1. Blizzard shows evidence of what they have collected and the method they have used.
If their method includes sweeping up other stuff not related to the detection of bots and if the data remains on their server its a violation of the data protection.

Then again, from all your replies, you assumed 1 thing:

Blizzard is honest when their EULA/TOS which says that they only scan for botwares only.

They may very well be and they may have very well stuck to the scope and not more. And this is what folks here are interested to know, if they are specifically identifying 1 unique code that reveals HB. Or are they scanning a whole lot of processes including those of non unique to BOTs, and those DATA remained in their server.

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[eigoteacher]

I decided against contracting more aids from you. So imma edit my long quoted reply.

Childish.

Your points are only valid IF:

My points are all valid within the confines of the laws mentioned in a number of threads. I have only been referring to the laws that people have been providing and pointing out the language inside those laws which refute what people are trying to claim here.

1. Blizzard shows evidence of what they have collected and the method they have used.
If their method includes sweeping up other stuff not related to the detection of bots and if the data remains on their server its a violation of the data protection.

Again, there is no legal way for you to force Blizzard to give you the information that you seek. You waived your rights by giving them valid consent to scan your system for anything they want, within the confines of what you agreed to in their terms of service.

Then again, from all your replies, you assumed 1 thing:

Blizzard is honest when their EULA/TOS which says that they only scan for botwares only.

You are the one making the accusations, so you need evidence that they broke any laws. What evidence is that?

They may very well be and they may have very well stuck to the scope and not more. And this is what folks here are interested to know, if they are specifically identifying 1 unique code that reveals HB. Or are they scanning a whole lot of processes including those of non unique to BOTs, and those DATA remained in their server.

Their methods are protected by law. That data is protected and you cannot request it. It's the same reason you can't ask for the government to make KFC give up their secret recipe.

Any data that they took was legally acquired because everyone who agreed to the terms gave them valid consent to search their computer for information. This is stated within the very privacy laws themselves. The laws state that as long as the companies have valid consent, they can collect the information, as I already mentioned.

I am not stating my opinions. I am only telling you what the laws state. You're the one not understanding the laws. Go back and read them before you make more uneducated claims.

 

[thebuddybrother]

today i recived a phonecall from blizzard and my 6 month's ban was gone.

I sent them a letter by post. This is what i wrote to them ;

Send this to their legal team.



To whom it may concern,

I have been incorrectly applied with a six month suspension to my World of Warcraft account, on the grounds of 'exploiting game mechanics' and 'violating the terms of service'. Apparently, the 'proof' is that third party applications of a malicious nature were running in conjunction with my World of Warcraft client.

This information is incorrect. According to the EC Data Protection Directive (95/46/EC), a data subject (in this context, I, the end user of the account being disputed in question) may request that evidence is supplied to him or her.

Upon a data subject's request, a data controller (in this context, you, Blizzard Entertainment) must provide all relevant information that is being processed. If information is being processed, written information must be supplied to the data subject, including:

What information is being processed,
The source from which it was collected,
Why the processing of this information is taking place,
To which recipients or groups of recipients the data is disclosed to.

I expect prompt acknowledgement of this request within 3 days, and for all information held by Blizzard Entertainment and associated companies to be forwarded to my email address in a timely fashion.

Sincerely your namn

If you are gonna use this, you must be from Europe. You are able to demand any vitual data about you be provided to you , and deleted.

Adress; Blizzard Entertainment Europe
FAO: Legal Department
145, rue Yves Le Coz
78000 Versailles
France

Can someone help me please, in translating this into french, i tryed google traduction but it dont mean rly much thing...

what is "EC Data Protection Directive (95/46/EC), a data subject" for exemple ? it is a law ?

I wana try to send a letter to but i'm living in france and i'm french, should i send it in english ?

if anyone can help please i will be very gratefull!! and i can pay you for helping me!

 

[Pierlala]

Why does everyone go beserk? can we please stay on topic?

 

[Pierlala]

Yes and also...does it have to be in French? I doubt it right? Not everyone can speak fluently French. That would be silly.

 

[Pierlala]

Letter is written. Just need to copy my ID and then post it

 

[Pierlala]

Also does anyont know what OP means with "If you are gonna use this, you must be from Europe. You are able to demand any vitual data about you be provided to you , and deleted". ? I didn't write anything like that in my letter. Do I have to write something about that I want them to delete any data? And if I do...does that mean that my account will be deleted ?

 

[smartie]

got unbanned too with these kind of letter send to Blizz (is nearly the same as OP).

Got unbanned 30min ago after waiting 3 days

I am from germany if anyone interessted

 

[the god]

got unbanned too with these kind of letter send to Blizz (is nearly the same as OP).

Got unbanned 30min ago after waiting 3 days

I am from germany if anyone interessted

stop say that....

Show the proof!!!

 

[The Lady]

You know, this is very interesting.

Why?

I hand wrote that letter, to the very word, and gave it to ICU for his thread.
Proof is here, a screenshot from my personal messages: The Letter, The Timestamp

So, I have to wonder...ICU, are you making alternate accounts and spamming them?
Because - and here's the funny thing...I wrote the letter with a lot of loopholes. It won't work, at all. It's absolute bullshit. It's a hoax, a scam, a troll if you will.

And here the OP is, claiming it works. Well, I can assure you, ladies and gentlemen, it doesn't. I should know, I wrote the bloody thing.

 

[The Lady]

The letter is wroted by a attorney. I cannot proove the letter i sent by hand, did not take copy. But i can show u this:

View attachment 179084View attachment 179085

and second, i just recived a phonecall, and my account was unbanned after we hang up. My friend who told me about this, and gave me the exact same letter didnt recive any phonecall,but he got letter in his post with the information he asked for. what he did was open a ticket to the support and told them to unban him as there is no evidence against him longer cus the legal team have deleted it. And he got unbanned after 30 minutes! end of story. not gonna tell you guys to belive me, but this is what happend. Belive it or not, i dont care. For next time i will not share anything, cus of people like you. I just wanted to share, so other can use this. may not work much longer, but it's worth a try it worked for me.

Sorry for my english, i know it's not perfect.

Actually no, OP. It wasn't written by an attorney. It was written by me. Stop lying, it's terrible for your soul.

And here's the best part...after I sent it to ICU, I sent it to a user over Skype. Sephirofl might have shared it...but unlikely.

Since I wrote this on Monday, three days have not passed - you haven't sent it, it never reached their offices, and furthermore, they didn't 'call' you, because a callback must be registered through a ticket - and the legal offices (which you apparently sent this to) will not call you back without a licensed attourney present.

 

[killajosh]

My issue is this: Blizz sent you an email saying you were banned. They sent you an email when you opened the ticket. They send an email when it is resolved (or closed, cancelled, etc). Why would they not send you an email saying your account had been unbanned? It's almost impossible to believe Blizzard wouldn't send you any kind of proof of what took place on your account. Why should anyone believe this story since you offer up no evidence proving this "unbanning"?

 

[The Lady]

My issue is this: Blizz sent you an email saying you were banned. They sent you an email when you opened the ticket. They send an email when it is resolved (or closed, cancelled, etc). Why would they not send you an email saying your account had been unbanned? It's almost impossible to believe Blizzard wouldn't send you any kind of proof of what took place on your account. Why should anyone believe this story since you offer up no evidence proving this "unbanning"?

You can read my previous comments on why he is lying - he didn't author the letter, nor did an attourney. I did.

They will not, under any circumstances, overturn the current six month ban. They have irrefutable proof. Yes, you can request your information from them - go ahead! But it won't help. Your computer processes and RAM are not considered 'personal data' under the Data Protection Act.

Even if he did get a call from a Blizzard GM, they would issue out digital proof of the account ban being overturned, through either an email or a ticket on their service.

Everyone, please, understand that Blizzard is not overturning their bans. They are well within their rights, since they are not mishandling 'personal' data. You are welcome to see what personal data they have gathered on you - and it will just be a bunch of IP addresses, nothing more.

Letters such as mine will just lead to a permenant account closure. They reserve the right to close your account at any time, for any reason.

 

[Pierlala]

Well, whatever may be true or not. No one will know for sure unless tried. I just hand wrote a letter to Blizzard almost similair to OP. I will see what it brings me. If it leads to permanent account closure, then too bad. It will be the final reason to step away from this game. But I find worth a try. Besides, what would be the point of lying about this?

 

[killajosh]

Well, whatever may be true or not. No one will know for sure unless tried. I just hand wrote a letter to Blizzard almost similair to OP. I will see what it brings me. If it leads to permanent account closure, then too bad. It will be the final reason to step away from this game. But I find worth a try. Besides, what would be the point of lying about this?

Because some people like to troll. The thing is, Blizzard already stated that these bans will not be overturned FOR ANY REASON. They obviously had enough proof to ban us, we obviously were using HB, so why fight what you (technically) deserve? You weren't that concerned about being banned while you botted or you wouldn't have botted.

The millions of dollars in retainer fees Blizzard pays their legal team annually probably guarantees your "legal" letters ends up in a special file.... the garbage.

 

[eigoteacher]

You can read my previous comments on why he is lying - he didn't author the letter, nor did an attourney. I did.

They will not, under any circumstances, overturn the current six month ban. They have irrefutable proof. Yes, you can request your information from them - go ahead! But it won't help. Your computer processes and RAM are not considered 'personal data' under the Data Protection Act.

Even if he did get a call from a Blizzard GM, they would issue out digital proof of the account ban being overturned, through either an email or a ticket on their service.

Everyone, please, understand that Blizzard is not overturning their bans. They are well within their rights, since they are not mishandling 'personal' data. You are welcome to see what personal data they have gathered on you - and it will just be a bunch of IP addresses, nothing more.

Letters such as mine will just lead to a permenant account closure. They reserve the right to close your account at any time, for any reason.

Yay, another rational person!

 

[garoboldy]

Will NOT work in the US. Data requests are ignored here due to the laws in which we have no rights to access the said data being taken by the company, per the agreement we all said yes to in the game.