Ultima - The Ultimate Combat Routine

[olina]

look back one page. You lazy ass. good lord.

I did~ and tried a lo of time~ but the bot didn't sum~

do u have the same issue ?

 

[Vanni127]

nope. I've not had the issue at all. Course I've only run it as white mage or monk.

 

[Endus]

MASSIVE update. Sorry it took so long but a few small changes turned into a domino effect lol. Scope creep and etc.

I normally don't like changing so much at once since if something is broken it's gonna be a pain to track down/fix, but I wanted to try to get caught up on a few of the more popular requests before the expansion bogs me down. Let me know what I broke and I'll try to fix it ASAP.

hey guys~ Chocobo summ not working

anyone has the same issue ?

The Chocobo won't summon if you're using Combat Assist, if you're in a Party, if it's in a Stable, if you don't have Gysahl Greens in your bags, or if you haven't did the quest to unlock it yet. Does that help any? Let me know.

 

[exaccuss]

Ninja and dragoon multi mode seem to work fine, will be testing others out later on I have noticed with the auto goad with ninja that it wants to use goad if my tp is low judging by the log. Goad can't be used on yourself.

EDIT: also with your blm aoe rotation, should it be using flare? It's just most of the aoe rotations i have found online use flare. Just curious.

 

[throne]

Arcanist Doesn't use ruin. New update

 

[Endus]

Ninja and dragoon multi mode seem to work fine, will be testing others out later on I have noticed with the auto goad with ninja that it wants to use goad if my tp is low judging by the log. Goad can't be used on yourself.

EDIT: also with your blm aoe rotation, should it be using flare? It's just most of the aoe rotations i have found online use flare. Just curious.

Hrm. I have it set to look for party members' TP. I guess the player is included in that. Good to know lol. I'll correct it. Also, do you know a good value to use Goad at? It's currently set to use it above the Invigorate threshold (~600). Should it be below it (~400)?

What do you mean with Flare? It should be using it every time Convert is up. Do you mean you think it should be hard-casted?

Arcanist Doesn't use ruin. New update

Thanks for the report. I'll take a look when I get off work.

 

[Outcry]

Noticed that on Monk it spams Fist of Earth on and off while not in combat.

 

[Azoth]

Hrm. I have it set to look for party members' TP. I guess the player is included in that. Good to know lol. I'll correct it. Also, do you know a good value to use Goad at? It's currently set to use it above the Invigorate threshold (~600). Should it be below it (~400)?

The best would be to have an option for the player to fill in their own threshold. Barring that, its kinda awkward set at 600, as you'll be putting goad on someone right as they're about to pop invigorate. What I usually do is set it to 400 and manually goad a tank ~20s into the fight, since they dont have an invig to worry about (and actually run out of TP quite frequently), then let it run on auto from then on. By the time goad comes up again is just about when at least one of the dps is asking for more TP. If its possible to set different thresholds for different classes, I think 800 for tanks, 400 for ninjas bards and monks, and 300 for dragoons would be ideal.

 

[Endus]

Noticed that on Monk it spams Fist of Earth on and off while not in combat.

Noted. I'll get on that asap.

The best would be to have an option for the player to fill in their own threshold. Barring that, its kinda awkward set at 600, as you'll be putting goad on someone right as they're about to pop invigorate. What I usually do is set it to 400 and manually goad a tank ~20s into the fight, since they dont have an invig to worry about (and actually run out of TP quite frequently), then let it run on auto from then on. By the time goad comes up again is just about when at least one of the dps is asking for more TP. If its possible to set different thresholds for different classes, I think 800 for tanks, 400 for ninjas bards and monks, and 300 for dragoons would be ideal.

Thanks. I'll set it to 400 for now and look into setting up values based on Class/Job (it should be possible, just gotta make sure to format it right).

 

[exaccuss]

Would an option on how many targets to use aoe be able to be added in? It seems with ninja it uses death blossom on 2+ aoe targets. At the very least it should be 3+. Good job with the aoe rotation so far.

 

[olina]

MASSIVE update. Sorry it took so long but a few small changes turned into a domino effect lol. Scope creep and etc.

I normally don't like changing so much at once since if something is broken it's gonna be a pain to track down/fix, but I wanted to try to get caught up on a few of the more popular requests before the expansion bogs me down. Let me know what I broke and I'll try to fix it ASAP.



The Chocobo won't summon if you're using Combat Assist, if you're in a Party, if it's in a Stable, if you don't have Gysahl Greens in your bags, or if you haven't did the quest to unlock it yet. Does that help any? Let me know.

hello

first , thank you for ur answer

I finished the quest and I have a lot of Gysahl Greens in my bag.

I am not in party.

1 thing u said combat assist. how I can turn off? is this 1 part in ur routines ? or something inside the FF14?

Thank You again, great job

 

[qq12345]

Auto-summoning of the Chocobo is disabled in parties by default because if it's not it spams Summon Chocobo over and over right after it dies (it takes 5+ seconds to actually die and leave the party). Most people don't use them in groups with other people anyway (as they take up spots that could be used by other members).

If you really want to do it, just go to Ultima.cs and remove the "!PartyManager.IsInParty &&" from the Summon Chocobo code. I'll try to get an option of some sort thrown in to toggle it if others want it as well.

I have a massive update coming soon (within a day or so hopefully) that should address a lot of the concerns over the last few pages (not for all the cross-class skills yet though, rumor is SE is eliminating some of them so I'm waiting to see what the expansion brings as far as that goes).

Just throwing myself in as another who'd like that option! mostly for partying with multipleaccounts

 

[Endus]

New version.

Arcanist Doesn't use ruin. New update

Let me know if it's fixed now.

Noticed that on Monk it spams Fist of Earth on and off while not in combat.

Should be fixed now, let me know.

The best would be to have an option for the player to fill in their own threshold. Barring that, its kinda awkward set at 600, as you'll be putting goad on someone right as they're about to pop invigorate. What I usually do is set it to 400 and manually goad a tank ~20s into the fight, since they dont have an invig to worry about (and actually run out of TP quite frequently), then let it run on auto from then on. By the time goad comes up again is just about when at least one of the dps is asking for more TP. If its possible to set different thresholds for different classes, I think 800 for tanks, 400 for ninjas bards and monks, and 300 for dragoons would be ideal.

Rebuilt the logic based on class as you suggested. 800 for Tanks, 400 for NIN/BRD/MNK, 300 for DRG. It should hit the tank first and then favor the DPS the second time around (later in the fight).

Would an option on how many targets to use aoe be able to be added in? It seems with ninja it uses death blossom on 2+ aoe targets. At the very least it should be 3+. Good job with the aoe rotation so far.

Thanks for pointing that out. I had a few typos in the detection. It should be working properly now. Let me know.

Just throwing myself in as another who'd like that option! mostly for partying with multipleaccounts

Noted. I'll try to see if I can figure something out.

hello

first , thank you for ur answer

I finished the quest and I have a lot of Gysahl Greens in my bag.

I am not in party.

1 thing u said combat assist. how I can turn off? is this 1 part in ur routines ? or something inside the FF14?

Thank You again, great job

Combat Assist is one of the Bot Bases. Currently Ultima will only summon your Chocobo for you when you're using another Bot Base like Fate Bot or Order Bot.

 

[ashade]

Hi

scholar is not managing cleric stance when dealing dps. If you try anyway to activate it manually the routine just deactivate it instantly...

Ty

 

[matt84]

Still not using ruin in summoner

[13:56:47.200 D] Targeting Grenade 0x40040BF7 0xF4D6DF0
[13:56:47.237 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:56:47.240 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II
[13:56:49.732 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:56:49.732 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:56:52.344 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:56:52.344 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:56:53.707 D] DoAction Spell 174 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.708 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bane
[13:56:53.814 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.814 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:07.769 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:57:07.770 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:57:07.802 D] DoAction Spell 166 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:07.802 N] [Ultima] Ability: Aetherflow
[13:57:08.640 D] DoAction Spell 176 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:08.640 N] [Ultima] Ability: Rouse
[13:57:09.491 D] DoAction Spell 150 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:09.491 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
[13:57:12.528 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.528 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:57:12.559 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.559 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:15.076 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:57:15.077 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II

 

[exaccuss]

Still not using ruin in summoner

[13:56:47.200 D] Targeting Grenade 0x40040BF7 0xF4D6DF0
[13:56:47.237 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:56:47.240 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II
[13:56:49.732 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:56:49.732 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:56:52.344 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:56:52.344 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:56:53.707 D] DoAction Spell 174 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.708 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bane
[13:56:53.814 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.814 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:07.769 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:57:07.770 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:57:07.802 D] DoAction Spell 166 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:07.802 N] [Ultima] Ability: Aetherflow
[13:57:08.640 D] DoAction Spell 176 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:08.640 N] [Ultima] Ability: Rouse
[13:57:09.491 D] DoAction Spell 150 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:09.491 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
[13:57:12.528 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.528 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:57:12.559 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.559 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:15.076 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:57:15.077 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II

Perhaps it's a < level 50 thing. My 50 smn uses ruin fine.

 

[Endus]

Hi

scholar is not managing cleric stance when dealing dps. If you try anyway to activate it manually the routine just deactivate it instantly...

Ty

At least half of it is working I suppose lol. I'll take a look.

Still not using ruin in summoner

[13:56:47.200 D] Targeting Grenade 0x40040BF7 0xF4D6DF0
[13:56:47.237 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:56:47.240 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II
[13:56:49.732 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:56:49.732 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:56:52.344 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:56:52.344 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:56:53.707 D] DoAction Spell 174 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.708 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bane
[13:56:53.814 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.814 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:07.769 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:57:07.770 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:57:07.802 D] DoAction Spell 166 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:07.802 N] [Ultima] Ability: Aetherflow
[13:57:08.640 D] DoAction Spell 176 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:08.640 N] [Ultima] Ability: Rouse
[13:57:09.491 D] DoAction Spell 150 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:09.491 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
[13:57:12.528 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.528 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:57:12.559 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.559 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:15.076 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:57:15.077 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II

Thanks. It works at 50 so I didn't notice an issue. I'll check it asap.

 

[throne]

Lancer/Dragoon spamming Impulse Drive at low levels/syncing. Probably wants to use Disembowel but couldn't since it's locked when synced. When Disembowel is available, rotation works well.

Anywho, there are 2 combat assists now. Ex combat assist, and combat assist. Which one works better with ultima?

 

[Outcry]

Also notice it spams cleric stance on and off out of combat as well.

But the fist of earth is fixed so thanks!

 

[Endus]

New version.

Hi

scholar is not managing cleric stance when dealing dps. If you try anyway to activate it manually the routine just deactivate it instantly...

Ty

Try it now and let me know how it does.

Still not using ruin in summoner

[13:56:47.200 D] Targeting Grenade 0x40040BF7 0xF4D6DF0
[13:56:47.237 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:56:47.240 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II
[13:56:49.732 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:56:49.732 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:56:52.344 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:56:52.344 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:56:53.707 D] DoAction Spell 174 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.708 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bane
[13:56:53.814 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:56:53.814 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:07.769 D] DoAction Spell 164 0x40040BF7
[13:57:07.770 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio
[13:57:07.802 D] DoAction Spell 166 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:07.802 N] [Ultima] Ability: Aetherflow
[13:57:08.640 D] DoAction Spell 176 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:08.640 N] [Ultima] Ability: Rouse
[13:57:09.491 D] DoAction Spell 150 0x101FCAD4
[13:57:09.491 N] [Ultima] Ability: Swiftcast
[13:57:12.528 D] DoAction Spell 168 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.528 N] [Ultima] Ability: Miasma
[13:57:12.559 D] DoAction Spell 181 0x40040BF7
[13:57:12.559 N] [Ultima] Ability: Fester
[13:57:15.076 D] DoAction Spell 178 0x40040BF7
[13:57:15.077 N] [Ultima] Ability: Bio II

Thanks for the log bit. I had a few things coded incorrectly for the new core/code-base. See if it works better now.

Lancer/Dragoon spamming Impulse Drive at low levels/syncing. Probably wants to use Disembowel but couldn't since it's locked when synced. When Disembowel is available, rotation works well.

Anywho, there are 2 combat assists now. Ex combat assist, and combat assist. Which one works better with ultima?

Oops. When I was rebuilding the logic to support the new core I forgot to fix Impulse Drive's logic. Thanks for catching that. It should be better now (let me know).

As for ExCombatAssist and Combat Assist it shouldn't matter. The advantage to Ex was supposed to be Frame Lock but mastahg claims that's already built into RB so Combat Assist should be just as good.

Also notice it spams cleric stance on and off out of combat as well.

But the fist of earth is fixed so thanks!

Hopefully fixed now.