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TuanHA Rogue - The Ultimate Experience

Hey Tuan, i just bought your rogue profile on your site and was wondering how i would go about setting it up to use stealth in the whole match instead of mounting up and becoming target of other rogues and stuff :) thanks on advance
 
Chaser said:
Since PQR is stopped i'm looking for another rotation bot for PvE and PvP.
Used Soabpox's for PvE and Vitalic's for PvP before, so i'm looking something comparable.

Can your routine be used for high rated RBG and arenas?
1) Will this routine use Cloak of Shadows on mass fears or to protect my burst from CC? On screenshots there is only "Targeted by" and "HP below" options which is absolutely useless.
2) Evasion and Combat Readiness are used only by HP value? Non on enemy's offensive cooldowns? What if my HP went down because of DoTs and no enemy around :D routine will waste defensive cooldowns?
3) What is current opener? Looks like no options for to switch Garrote/Cheap Shot/Ambush, so it should be some "standard opener".
4) How to start a burst? Is it some macro?
5) Can I manually click some things with GCD (smoke bomb situationally, Sheap Shots (+ Shadow Dance) and Kindey trying to stun enemy while protecting flag carrier or carrying myself, helping my mate to cap a point) when routine is running?
6) Does it recognizes smoke bomb up for to stun/Paralytic Shiv target prevent him running out of cloud?
7) Does it check diminishing or just spamming stuns randomly? :D
8) Can it kick, shadowstep kick, redirect+kidney non-targeted enemies for to save me / my flag carrier / arena mate?
9) Backstab option unchecked will it use only Hemo? If checked -- only Backstab (even when i'm rooted and cannot move behind)?
10) Burst mode means Shadow Blades + Shadow Dance? Any way to use first Dance with no Blades and second dance with Blades?
11) Eviscerates are used just on 5 CPs + enough energy or trying to calculate if target can be killed now for to use on lower CPs?
12) Kidney is used on cooldown, no tries to save it if target can be killed with Evis now, or Redirect is about ready to Redirect+Kidney?

Is it good enoungh for heroic PvE?
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I have all T's CRs, Everyone of them has and is capable of high end RBG and arena.....Apart from this one, I think Tuanha is great, but this, His rogue CR, it feels a little sloppy and i may be wrong here, but Tuanha's lack of rogue experiance seems too show on it, His other CRs are fantastic though.
 
OhaiDur said:
I have all T's CRs, Everyone of them has and is capable of high end RBG and arena.....Apart from this one, I think Tuanha is great, but this, His rogue CR, it feels a little sloppy and i may be wrong here, but Tuanha's lack of rogue experiance seems too show on it, His other CRs are fantastic though.
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I'm agree and i think it's a good idea to rework this cr for PvE High end and pvp. Some people buy this cr only for rogue and they're disappointed because they look other CR are great but this is not good like other...

Tuanha please modify your cr, rework your PvE rotation for 3 spec, and add option for rogue pvp like post of Chaser. You're make a great job for other cr, so don't kill this one.
 
superconnard said:
I'm agree and i think it's a good idea to rework this cr for PvE High end and pvp. Some people buy this cr only for rogue and they're disappointed because they look other CR are great but this is not good like other...

Tuanha please modify your cr, rework your PvE rotation for 3 spec, and add option for rogue pvp like post of Chaser. You're make a great job for other cr, so don't kill this one.
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My Words,pls TuanHa rework this CC. I use the Donator Edition.
 
WHat exactly is wrong with this CC? My DPS with my rogue is the lowest of all my chars, but I always thought that rogues suck dps wise anyway, and are mainly for PvP use.
My similar geared DK and Warrior do more dps than my rogue (using TuanHA). But you're all saying this CR needs to be improved?
I'm getting about the same DPS using Waldo or Pure v2, so from my point of view this CR is "fine"; rogues just suck at doing dps compared to other classes :)
 
Stop say bullshit please. Rogue are really fine

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The problem in the rotation and the talent. Don't cleaver use Anticipation and redirect.And trinket like Haromm's talisman or AoC. The rotation is pretty old and don't actualize. Like soapboax in PqR very very good cc but pqr not avaible. So need tuanha to improve this cc

Tuanha need to work on it. Because donor need to do ;p

In pvp, the control is not clever like sham or hunt CC.
 
Actually i started playing a rogue and i'm pretty satisfied with the paid cc version. (pvp subtlety, lvl 75 now) Even going after an pvp guide regarding glyphs and talents i am 99% dmg first in every dungeon, no matter if others are 2 levels below or above me and i don't have a single heirloom item!!!

If i come up fighting 1vs1 in open pvp the only class that gets me down is skilled disc priest (with heirloom gear). Otherwise this is a quite nice stunlock show and i survice 50%+ hp.

Pretty nice job!
 
Normal, in low level dungeon most player don't know rotation. but in High end raid it's different. Moreover, tuanha promise a best dps in hign end raid.
 
DaSoul said:
Actually i started playing a rogue and i'm pretty satisfied with the paid cc version. (pvp subtlety, lvl 75 now) Even going after an pvp guide regarding glyphs and talents i am 99% dmg first in every dungeon, no matter if others are 2 levels below or above me and i don't have a single heirloom item!!!

If i come up fighting 1vs1 in open pvp the only class that gets me down is skilled disc priest (with heirloom gear). Otherwise this is a quite nice stunlock show and i survice 50%+ hp.

Pretty nice job!
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No need to get super defensive guys, i agree while lvling and low lvl pvp the rogue CR is fine, but at max lvl its no on par with T's other CR's, I guess i hold tuanha too a very standard because of his other CR, i just dont feel the same lvl of detail and knowledge has been applied too the rogue CR, he has spoiled us xD
 
OhaiDur said:
No need to get super defensive guys, i agree while lvling and low lvl pvp the rogue CR is fine, but at max lvl its no on par with T's other CR's, I guess i hold tuanha too a very standard because of his other CR, i just dont feel the same lvl of detail and knowledge has been applied too the rogue CR, he has spoiled us xD
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I'm so agree, i think tuanha abandonned this cr and just update for patch but don't work the routine. Maybe he's acknolewdge the rogue. I hope tuanha read other good rotation (like soapbox) and TC rogue.

So please tuanha rework on this CR
rework pve CR for top damage and PvP for more survivability and brain.
 
Hi

I can confirm it
TUA ROGUE (Donator version) is currently bad for pvp.
And compared to a another Tua class it's the worst CR at the moment.
Dps is very low.
 
does this fucking piece of shit actually DISABLE itself in rated BGs and arenas?

what the holy fuck

how do the devs let this thread stay up here...

EDIT: ok turns out that it stops working if you get queued up vs same faction. I couldnt figure out what the hell was going on, i use it outside it works, i port into a BG it stops, i go outside again and it works.

Same results though, its 100% not usable in rated pvp. should put that up there on first page.
 
starlite68 said:
does this fucking piece of shit actually DISABLE itself in rated BGs and arenas?

what the holy fuck

how do the devs let this thread stay up here...
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The Free public version does not "DISABLE" itself in RBGs or Arena, Its simply not coded too attack members of the same faction, So if you get arena or RBG vs same faction, it wont attack, but will pop defensive CD's, Its perfectly capable of doing DPS in raids,Dungeons,Normal BGs where you will only face the opposing faction, World PvP, Exactly what did expect for Free, Infact the public version of this goes above and beyond most other Free combat routines.

Thanks for adding too the increasing number of un constructive, abusive and Rude posts on the forums and being so so helpfull.
 
HB4717A34 said:
Which Tua routine is the best right now?
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Cham is pretty good, paladin is the best in my opinion (exept for ret pve) monk is fine (exept for monk dps pve) In fact, Tuanha code better for pvp... He forget totally end games PvEboys except for healing...
 
Does the free edition ever get updated? It is still on version 17. and why is it that only the people that bitch get a response to there comments in this place.

I myself have asked questions without being rude or insensitive to anyone and fking never get any kind of fking response to those legit questions. Why?
TuanHa pvp free version sucks for PVP on the Timeless Isle. The rotations just don't cut it, The thing needs to have a way to let the people specify its rotation.
Also noticed that if you set it for Raid and are actually in a freaking raid with 25 others, while in the raid attacking the mob all of a sudden the character will start running around like it is in a daze. It will attack the mob and then run a mile past it and not return to it. If set on Dungeon, it does the same screwed up crap.

I really feel sorry for anyone that gave money for this thing.
 
OhaiDur said:
The Free public version does not "DISABLE" itself in RBGs or Arena, Its simply not coded too attack members of the same faction, So if you get arena or RBG vs same faction, it wont attack, but will pop defensive CD's, Its perfectly capable of doing DPS in raids,Dungeons,Normal BGs where you will only face the opposing faction, World PvP, Exactly what did expect for Free, Infact the public version of this goes above and beyond most other Free combat routines.

Thanks for adding too the increasing number of un constructive, abusive and Rude posts on the forums and being so so helpfull.
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doesnt matter if it "disables" or "just doesnt work", does it? cant use it in RBG and Arenas, period.

what do i expect fro free???? well on this website you can post profiles THAT WORK. if it doesnt work in rated pvp it should state so on the first page, all it says is "Some powerful logic is not available in the public release." yeah logic like WORKING IN A BG. you can't post crippled profiles as advertisements for you off-site paid profiles, that's bossland's rules. obviously since it works fine in the paid version he disabled it on purpose.

so yes i think my post was constructive.
 
No one is going to help you if you don't post up any information about your settings you are running, your bot base ect.
 
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