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TuanHA Rogue - The Ultimate Experience

illuzion said:
Okay that was super technical :D so the free version of TuanHA's Rogue is actually doing it 100% optimal?
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Who knows :D
I don't play combat because don't like it's style :P

Tuanha tries to make universal routine: PvE + PvE, full afk and manual assist, questing+dungeon+raiding, any talents+glyphs combination, any gear lvl, any character lvl. Many classes and all specs. New expansion recently started with many changes.
So.. ofc it's not 100% optimal :) but descent. Especially for people who just started new class.

To know is it good or not you need to have some personal experience and get theory. If you mean raiding performance read at least IcyVeins and check SimCraft. Watch what routine actually doing, compare to the theory and try to understand is it correct or not (and why).
Remember that real raiding environment is always different from dummy and theory (because you may need to switch for killing adds, avoid unnecessary damage, get bad random). Even tries with the same raid team will give you different results.
Also ilvl changes your performance. Sometimes there are even key points (e.g. turning from "not enough energy" to "i'm always have some to advance Bandit's Guide in proper moments"). See if routine handles current state of your character properly.

If you'll get some questions or suggestions -- just ask. Usually Tuanha is open to implement everything which really improves routine in any aspect. Maybe not as super fast as we want ;)

Ofc raid rotation is different from questing (sometimes too different). And Tuanha haven't tested all possible cases personally :)


For example I play with his DK routine for 2 days. I don't know if it's optimal or not :D Looks like it works descent. If I'll continue playing i'll start to understand what need to be improved and how critically.
 
Chaser said:
For Sub my advice to skip Death from Above implementation (and mention it in routine's description). It's hard to master properly while benefit is not high enough :( "Too much pain -- not enough profit".
I think that Subtlety rotation is easier (and at the same time more rewarding). Cleave and AoE are pretty easy here
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I disagree, this skill has allowed me to return so many flags in Twin Peaks and WSG I've lost count. It's a 100 yard gap closer and invaluable as far as I'm concerned (plus it also works through walls). It also allows you to minimize knock-backs and knock-offs if you're careful, my new favorite talent for PvP. Maybe not as much utility in Arena but would definitely not want to see implementation dropped.
 
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i have just started to level a rogue it is now 19 and it goes into stealth walks up to a mob then stands infront of them if they spot him he attacks if not it just stands there - any help for this please



EDIT: Forgot to mention this is on the free version
 
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Hey :)

I'm wondering why Feint is almost never used even with the glyph. I set it to 50% and it only use it once in a while, but it's important in many boss fights especially in heroic. Is it possible to use it more often? Or is there an option I haven't found until now, that would help me here?
 
Doddy1989 said:
i have just started to level a rogue it is now 19 and it goes into stealth walks up to a mob then stands infront of them if they spot him he attacks if not it just stands there - any help for this please



EDIT: Forgot to mention this is on the free version
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What settings have you made? I'm not sure, but you should have an option "full afk" in the bottom if you don't want to play by yourself or you should check within "General Settings" the options for "Other setting" (top right) if there is "Attack Out Combat" is enabled. If I'm not wrong that should let your toon attack while not in combat.

If someone knows it better, feel free to correct me :)
 
I can't get my settings to save, so every time I pick PvP or Raid, etc., it resets the settings. I've tried saving, loading profile, all of that. Is this a free version thing?
 
Hey :)

first of all, great Routine !

I use the free one, and i have a question. My Rogue dont use kick. In general settings i set the mark to use kick, but he dont do it.

Or is it just for the premium version of the routine ?
 
I have questions I'm using the paid version of this combat routine.
1. why when I configure CD on Boss/Player on every mob trigger my offensives cd's?
2. why on Subtly refresh Slice and Dice on 13~8 sec left same with rupture and hemorrhage? (time of eviscerate lost)
3. why Shadow Dance is activate first and then shadow reflection if is better activate shadow reflection and then shadow dance for best output dps???
4. when use vanish why don't use ambush a next attack???

BTW on simulationcraft whit 668 ilvl the dps is 27597(with all raid buff) on dummy dps is 15320 and by myself doing the rotation 19245 (5 min in all test, on dummy and by myself without raid buffs)
 
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I have the paid version of your Rogue routine and i watched it for over an hour and never once did i see it pick a pocket. I have it set to do so.
 
hey i just got the paid version, was wondering if you plan to make an option to only use killing spree with deep insight for pvp reasons?
 
I am all new to this combat routine and rogues. I control my character manually and use this for rotations. When I fight it automatically attacks next near target. I Wonder if this can be disabled?
 
HB7825W23 said:
I am all new to this combat routine and rogues. I control my character manually and use this for rotations. When I fight it automatically attacks next near target. I Wonder if this can be disabled?
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You can try disabling "Auto Target"
 
HB7825W23 said:
Thanks. I tried and it did not Work. I Wonder why it does this since I also use Tuanha warrior/death knight and none of them have this behavior.
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Probably tries to switch target to gouge/blind, then switch back to focused target, but since you're not in range it'll jsut get stuck.
 
Version 6.0.5491
New build compartible with new Honorbuddy 2.5.12600.764
Optimization and bug fix
 
Still fails Vanish → Ambush in most cases :(

[02:23:22.653 N] Waiting for VanishWoD1
[02:23:24.678 D] 24:678 Trying to cast Vanish (1856) on Lvl 100 Alliance Rogue reason VanishWoD1 E: 46 CP: 2
[02:23:24.777 N] 24:777 HP: 100% Energy: 47 % CP: 2 Lvl 100 Alliance Rogue 0y 100% hp Vanish (1856)
[02:23:24.785 N] Waiting for AmbushWoD1
[02:23:25.785 D] 25:784 Trying to cast Backstab (53) on Dungeoneer's Training Dummy reason BackstabPvE E: 57 CP: 3
[02:23:25.874 N] 25:874 HP: 100% Energy: 23 % CP: 4 Dungeoneer's Training Dummy 3.51y 100% hp Backstab (53)
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No idea why it Backstabs from Vanish. It wait for Ambush, has energy but.. doesn't use it.
 
Hey guys, me and chaser have been working closely with TuanHA to make this routine as good as it was in MoP, but remember he has a lot of routines so it might take some time, but rest assured once this profile has had a proper seeing to it WILL be amazing again
 
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