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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

On Public Release, how come all raid cooldowns are disabled? Since they are disabled, you can't change values (well you can in settings). I don't know if you have it set on PR to use cooldowns at certain percentage, but it only uses Avenging Wrath. Also, I think the bot uses Devo when at 0%, unless it was using it when I was MC'd.
 
tuanha said:
New SVN update, hope Combat Routine will not move like a drunk xD

Please update and let me know :D
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it's still like a rabbit on *****; i have no clue y this is happening, the first day i level'd the pala, everything was awesome, but the second day.. too much drugs^^"
 
@Tuanha: Installed it and tried ret right away.

I used the setup what I found on your blog, only change was to decrease the number of targets needed for HotR. Using LazyRaider as a botbase.

In pvp it looks very promising. The rotation is fast, can't see wait time between abilities.

The PvE part is not that great though. Did almost all raids in LFR tonight and it seems that there's some pause between the abilities. I think that the large number of players cause this because after the raids I tried it on the target dummies and there were no pause between the spells. As ret with the healing /support spells turned off I think it shouldn't wait that much. On the first few bosses I had healing on. After turning them off it was a bit better but still had pauses between the abilities.

I, as a player, usually spam the button that is next in my rotation but still on CD/GCD so it'll be cast as soon as it's off CD/GCD. Dunno if it could help.

The rotation is not perfect though.

1, When the target is out of range and the player has the long arm of the law talent judgement should be on higher priority than any other ranged spells to help close the gap faster.
2, In PvE Holy Prism shouldn't be on higher priority than any of the HP generating spells. When both CS and prism are off cooldown it casts prism. In PvP I think it's not that huge problem because it heals and heals are useful. Decreases DPS though.
3, The CC shouldn't use HP generating moves during Holy Avenger if the player already has 3 or more because you can lose 1-2 holy power(s). Neither should use spells like holy prism for attacking because it's not generating 3 holy powers. Just spam HP generating moves(they do +30% dmg and generate 3 HP)+HP consuming moves.
4, I think that in AOE situations it would be better if the CC could cast holy prism or execution sentence on the player, because then these spells do healing on the player and aoe damage on the monsters. :)

Also I saw exceptions in the log.

View attachment 3364 2012-12-17 20.36.zip
 
Chewbaka said:
On Public Release, how come all raid cooldowns are disabled? Since they are disabled, you can't change values (well you can in settings). I don't know if you have it set on PR to use cooldowns at certain percentage, but it only uses Avenging Wrath. Also, I think the bot uses Devo when at 0%, unless it was using it when I was MC'd.
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because thats normal if you want the full edition buy it like the rest of us then u have so mutch more and u can quest from 1-90 and all things that are availble u wil have
 
retlover said:
1, When the target is out of range and the player has the long arm of the law talent judgement should be on higher priority than any other ranged spells to help close the gap faster.
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The logic on Judgment for Gap Closer is already in PvP, I've just added for PvE too.


retlover said:
2, In PvE Holy Prism shouldn't be on higher priority than any of the HP generating spells. When both CS and prism are off cooldown it casts prism. In PvP I think it's not that huge problem because it heals and heals are useful. Decreases DPS though.
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I've made adjustment for Holy Prism, it now have lower priority than all HP generate spell.


retlover said:
3, The CC shouldn't use HP generating moves during Holy Avenger if the player already has 3 or more because you can lose 1-2 holy power(s). Neither should use spells like holy prism for attacking because it's not generating 3 holy powers. Just spam HP generating moves(they do +30% dmg and generate 3 HP)+HP consuming moves.
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That a very nice suggestion, it's even not in Icy Veins list yet. Now Combat Routine will Consume 3 HP right away when you have Holy Avenger up.


retlover said:
4, I think that in AOE situations it would be better if the CC could cast holy prism or execution sentence on the player, because then these spells do healing on the player and aoe damage on the monsters. :)
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This one I'm skeptical about change. As if I read tooltip correctly, the damage use directly on target > the damage use by AoE if you use it on yourself


Holy Prism
5.4% of base mana 40 yd range
Instant 20 sec cooldown
Requires Paladin
Requires level 90
Sends a beam of light toward a target, turning them into a prism for Holy energy.

If an enemy is the prism, they take 14523 to 17750 (+ 142.8% of SpellPower) Holy damage and radiate 9794 to 11969 (+ 96.2% of SpellPower) healing to 5 nearby allies within 15 yards.

If an ally is the prism, they are healed for 14523 to 17750 (+ 142.8% of SpellPower) and radiate 9794 to 11969 (+ 96.2% of SpellPower) Holy damage to 5 nearby enemies within 15 yards.
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Again, thank for top notch suggestion, I guess you play a very high end raid content.

I've made new svn update with new change, also hope it improved raid lag issue a bit (I haven't got that problem so I only guess where it come from)

Thank retlover.
 
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alaerwen said:
tuanhaaaa!!!! parasitic grooowth ): dissonance fieeeld!!! amber-shapeddddd raaawrrrr is it fixed in latest svn? didnt see if u added it yet :D going amber hc tonight <3
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alaerwennnn!!!! parasitic grooowth ): dissonance fieeeld!!! amber-shapeddddd raaawrrrr is it fixed in latest svn! Please try and let me know. (Used my last resource to fix that stupid bug)
 
Mario27 said:
because thats normal if you want the full edition buy it like the rest of us then u have so mutch more and u can quest from 1-90 and all things that are availble u wil have
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You don't get it. If the the form object is disabled, then that means it shouldn't use that ability at a certain percentage. The fact that it uses Avenging Wrath when it is disabled means that something got lost in the code. I was just alerting him so he can fix it. I won't buy the paid version because one, I don't care that much about this game to waste money, and two, the public version works perfectly fine. Anyways, why would I want to quest 1-90 when I already have a paladin?

Oh also, I haven't seen the bot use Hand of Sacrifice.
 
Chewbaka said:
You don't get it. If the the form object is disabled, then that means it shouldn't use that ability at a certain percentage. The fact that it uses Avenging Wrath when it is disabled means that something got lost in the code. I was just alerting him so he can fix it. I won't buy the paid version because one, I don't care that much about this game to waste money, and two, the public version works perfectly fine. Anyways, why would I want to quest 1-90 when I already have a paladin?

Oh also, I haven't seen the bot use Hand of Sacrifice.
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I was just getting on to say that! I have the Special Edt. to support the awesome CR, but yeah Sacrifice is def not working correctly... :\
 
TuanHA, i like to use my stuns when i feel like it during PVP/PVE, but it seems when i reach a certain % health as ret, it takes over and uses my stuns/blind on it's own (around 40-50%)
 
I have no idea why, but the CC seems to no longer work with dungeonbuddy for some reason.
Tried with fresh installs of both latest version and latest beta, started w/ singular and works fine, restart and try with tuanha, nope.avi.
Used to work fine, haven't used in last ~3 days.

EDIT: For clarification, it doesn't even move out of combat, like once in instance it doesn't do anything while tuanha is active. Going to keep trying and see if I can solve it myself.
 
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along the way, my problems with the game freezes while using the bot are to incorrectly drivers or operating system. because yesterday lowered the graphics to medium and freezing remains.
 
Alucardtnuoc said:
TuanHA, i like to use my stuns when i feel like it during PVP/PVE, but it seems when i reach a certain % health as ret, it takes over and uses my stuns/blind on it's own (around 40-50%)
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Class Config --> General --> Hammer of Justice Cast Ms Left 0
Class Config --> General --> Blinding Light Cast Ms Left 0
Class Config --> General --> Repentance Cast Ms Left 0

You're welcome.

PS: Another thing that has already been mentioned on the FIRST PAGE.
 
TehHuntorz said:
I have no idea why, but the CC seems to no longer work with dungeonbuddy for some reason.
Tried with fresh installs of both latest version and latest beta, started w/ singular and works fine, restart and try with tuanha, nope.avi.
Used to work fine, haven't used in last ~3 days.

EDIT: For clarification, it doesn't even move out of combat, like once in instance it doesn't do anything while tuanha is active. Going to keep trying and see if I can solve it myself.
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Have you updated via SVN since? Tuanha hammers out a lot of revisions in 3 days, so you should re-svn at least once a day to benefit out of it.
 
I'm not really sure if it's me or the CC but my dps is REALLY low for some reason, in ret gear I have around ilvl 460 and it doesn't seem to able to even break 30k.

Any help with this?
 
Gurkis said:
I'm not really sure if it's me or the CC but my dps is REALLY low for some reason, in ret gear I have around ilvl 460 and it doesn't seem to able to even break 30k.

Any help with this?
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It impossible, i think there must be something wrong.

I have the same gear level (PvP only) and I'm doing solid 43k dps on level 90 dummy (not the boss one)

Please make exact Talent and Glyph on Ret PvE first page and give me a log.
 
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Alucardtnuoc said:
TuanHA, i like to use my stuns when i feel like it during PVP/PVE, but it seems when i reach a certain % health as ret, it takes over and uses my stuns/blind on it's own (around 40-50%)
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In General tab cooldown section the top option "Crowd Control Enemy My if HP Below xx"

You have this set to 40-50% and the CC is trying to crowd control for you, set it to 0 and it wont happen.
 
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