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TuanHA Paladin - The Ultimate Experience

Sorry but this is a repost as I think my original one just was overlooked.

So I raid heroic SoO with my guild, 25 man. I used to be THE top healer, period. Now a priest kills me at the same ilvl (565 w/4 piece). So I'm not expecting to beat every healer, I'm well aware certain classes are more suited/OP for a given situation but I AM curious as to what settings are best now for 10/25 end game raiding (Heroic 25m specifically)?

I currently still use EF Blanketing, though from what I understand this is no longer optimal since EF no longer triggers Illuminated Healing. It still performs well though. Your Glyph settings on the recommended PVE Holy Spec are completely wrong as well, please let me know other than Beacon what majors you recommend. I use Beacon, the new H of SaC, and Prot of the Innocent.

Not a criticism at all, just saying for any new user they would be seriously confused by starting at the beginning of this Thread and going off the advice there, builds, talents, glyphs would be a mess today:). I completely understand you are swamped with all your CR's, I own them all and love what you bring to HB, I would just like to clarify some current things (Gear, Proc, Stat Priority's) for the current game. A lot has changed since 5.2.

Does the current build support the t16 Bonus for Holy, I saw it was added for ret but how about Holy? Also, does the CR logic take into account the current tricks, like after casting a Flash of Light your next Flash or Divine hit's for 10% more?

Sorry to add more, but any opinion on the current "supposed" BiS Trinkets? Thok's Acid-Grooved Tooth & Prismatic Prison of Pride, they seem lackluster to me, however if the CR saw when they proc'd and used them optimally that would probably make them seem like decent trinkets.

And lastly, here is my build. Does this still seem appropriate to you or should I be dropping the haste and/or EF Blanketing in favor of more mastery? Since I originally posted this I tried going with Mr Robot's "Burst" setting with a cap on the 7170 Haste rating to up my mastery some, really no difference IMO.

Code:
ILvl 565 w/T16 4 Set
Stat	Buffed	UnBuffed
Intel	28715	25982
Stamina	37596	34179
Spirit	15000	15000     Hard Capped, otherwise over 21K...
Mastery	38.11%	31.39%
SpellP	45701	38813
Crit	21.11%	15.03%
Haste	45.04%	38.13%     Capped at 10867 for +5 Ticks of EF


And of course the 2 & 4 Piece Tier bonus's for you if you need them:
2 pieces: Infusion of Light also increases the healing done by Holy Light, Divine Light, and Holy Radiance by 25%.
4 pieces: Reduces the cooldown of Divine Favor by 60 sec. While Divine Favor is active, Mastery is increased by 4500.


Thanks for any in site you can provide, Ironically I heal Malkrok just fine, dunno what other folks problem is.

Bob


Hey Tuanha, would like to see you responding on this as it figures out a lot of points which PvE users of your routine interests. I'm also still using EF Blanket mode, even if its not triggering illuminated healing anymore. It's still producing high hps though, even with my 540 gear (with cloak+gem). Pls have a look at that quote, I think you didn't respond to it yet, even if I understand that you have a lot of work to do with all of your routines.

Cheers mate
 
Hey Tuanha, i have a suggestion, it was suggested too me by a multi glad holydin who i was doing 2s with, his suggestion is that when the arena gates open, you should beacon your DPS and start building holypower on them asap.
 
First off all i hope you all get a nice end of the year and a good start.

So i made today a new char been questing with tyrael since i had troubles on my prot pala with this routine ( Log is couple of pages back ) He actualy cast the spell but none of them are to see in honorbuddy. All he is doing is Loading tiles.

View attachment 4668 2013-12-30 17.02.txt

Ty for the help
 
Special Edition dislikes keeping Eternal flame up which should be the case refresh @ 3 hopo as per EJ 5.4 pala guide
 
Hey,

i bought the Paladin Routine and it keeps spamming Holy Shock?! I couldn't find a way so solve this problem :(

Any suggestions?
 
Dunno if I agree with the 3HP EF's, it is build and gear dependant. Also varies based on 10m vs 25m. I use 1HP EF Blanketing for 25m Heroic SoO still as no one has replied as to whether the fact that EF no longer refreshes Illuminated Healing matters or not.

I have tried many many MANY builds and this still gives me the best performance, I would LOVE some advice from Tuhna as I've posted 2 times with VERY detailed posts asking about this recently. If there is a better way of doing it I'd love to know. If you want to know my specs a few pages back you'll see all that.

I'm running at the 10k Haste point for +5 EF ticks, 21k Spirit, 25ish mastery at ilvl 567 /w T16 4 piece. On 25 man heroic I will rank top 20 on a few fights, for some reason I rank top 5-10 on Sha consistently on World of Logs.

Fuckit I may try 3hp "blanketing" and see if that screws me or not lol.

BoB
 
Hey all, so... I have the Special Edition, and play it more with my Prot Spec, and yesterday I was testing it in LRF and saw that the routine wasn't using/keeping "Eternal Flame" up any time... so I tried to find a configuration step in the routine, and nothing...
As part of the Protection build and rotation... How do I set "Eternal Flame" to be used? Always it got 3 Holy, it uses SotR only... .-.

Ty
 
Dunno if I agree with the 3HP EF's, it is build and gear dependant. Also varies based on 10m vs 25m. I use 1HP EF Blanketing for 25m Heroic SoO still as no one has replied as to whether the fact that EF no longer refreshes Illuminated Healing matters or not.

I have tried many many MANY builds and this still gives me the best performance, I would LOVE some advice from Tuhna as I've posted 2 times with VERY detailed posts asking about this recently. If there is a better way of doing it I'd love to know. If you want to know my specs a few pages back you'll see all that.

I'm running at the 10k Haste point for +5 EF ticks, 21k Spirit, 25ish mastery at ilvl 567 /w T16 4 piece. On 25 man heroic I will rank top 20 on a few fights, for some reason I rank top 5-10 on Sha consistently on World of Logs.

Fuckit I may try 3hp "blanketing" and see if that screws me or not lol.

BoB

My issue pertains to EF 3 HoPo as prot it almost never casts it and the cc is so fast i can't even click it to cast i was under heroism in terrible gear and it was doing 35k/tick healing which is pretty dam good considering the terrible healers u see in lfr :P
 
Ya, I will try it once more at 3HP. Bouche I have looked at extensively on WoL, Armory, and MrRobot. 17k static haste is too low for the way we raid, Heroic with 5 heals 25m.

BoB

At the very minimum I wouldnt use less than a 2 HoPo EF. What trinkets are you running? Are the other healers in your group pulling their weight?
 
Hey,

i bought the Paladin Routine and it keeps spamming Holy Shock?! I couldn't find a way so solve this problem :(

Any suggestions?
Paladin need to holy shock to build Holy Power, when you got full holy power it will stop.

To stop Paladin keep holy shock you need to use one of these settings:
1. Stop spending holy power (don't use Eternal Flame blanket for example)
2. Pause the combat routine
 
Paladin need to holy shock to build Holy Power, when you got full holy power it will stop.

To stop Paladin keep holy shock you need to use one of these settings:
1. Stop spending holy power (don't use Eternal Flame blanket for example)
2. Pause the combat routine

so just eternal flame on 0 and it doesend use it? or full blanket the 0 away to?
 
Not sure what I am doing wrong now, been using the paid version on and off for a week or so now playing Ret, running raids and dungeons, all going fine. Today I jump into The Underhold and I am pulling everything in each room, including bosses when everyone wasn't ready. I am not sure why it is doing that as I don't remember tweaking anything, I just use vanilla because it is easier because it is less hassle. Previously I remember just killing everything then stopping and manually picking the next target to attack.

Any headsup of what I may of done wrong or changed appreciated.

G
 
Not sure what I am doing wrong now, been using the paid version on and off for a week or so now playing Ret, running raids and dungeons, all going fine. Today I jump into The Underhold and I am pulling everything in each room, including bosses when everyone wasn't ready. I am not sure why it is doing that as I don't remember tweaking anything, I just use vanilla because it is easier because it is less hassle. Previously I remember just killing everything then stopping and manually picking the next target to attack.

Any headsup of what I may of done wrong or changed appreciated.

G

Untick force attack out off combat and auto targeting maybe?
 
I'll check if they are ticked, like I said though I don't tweak anything and out of the box it was working a treat.

G
Yeah out of the box itll attack anything hehe, untick auto target and attack out of combat, I also untick auto focus as well and have no problems.

T Dog, I am loving the holy side of this in PVE....How ever, after using Mirabis's Leaves cc and its (I I believe to be its shining star) encounter specific fights mechanics, its killing me on fights like Malkorok and thok.
If these were made into these ccs (Shammy, Monk, Pally) I believe it would be the best all round cc's out.
 
Hey TuanHA,

did try Proving Grounds this morning with Your settings and it did work. Deleted those logs unfortunately. However, when I tried just now - tweaking the settings a little according to a mmopage guide - it does nothing. While in Raid mode, it does heal. Did I break something?

Myra

log attached: View attachment 25580 2014-01-05 12.46.txt
 
Hi, i use This Routine for solo dungeon farming. And my chracter(retri pal) dont use heal.

Class settings:
(checked) Flash of Ligth Me Below = 60
 

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Hey guys,

i play with EF in PVP. Can anyone explain me or just help me with the EF blanket config.
What is the best config for 2s, 3s and RBG?

Should i use EF with 3 HP or should i use EF blanketing?

I hope anyone can help me to find the best config!



Thank you
 
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