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TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

NovemberLima said:
Poor tuanha, I have more feature requests :)

1) It would be great to have "Dizzying Haze on mouseover" option like you made for Shaman Healing Rain.
When I enable it in routine, it can look very bottish sometimes (doing full rotation in front, and throwing stuff across the room on something that just spawned).
Alternatively, if it's easier, an option to only cast Dizzying Haze on mobs in melee range would be good.

2) For Windwalker, a small delay between the two Storm, Earth and Fire would be good - two at the exact same time looks botlike again.

3) Touch of Death priority needs to be much much higher.
I'd say on boss it's highest, as long as boss has health <= half of the damage the touch will do.
On multiple trash target it's less important than first Keg Smash (to get aggro), but I'm happy to eat a bit more damage from no shuffle if it means I can Touch of Death 1 enemy immediately.

I know it's not easy to code because it needs to build chi first, but in current heroics, on boss fights Touch of Death is often 25% of my damage (if I do it manually as soon as it's up).

P.S. I bought all inclusive package of your routines, just so you don't think I ask for features without paying :p
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That also what I think about after playing with monk for a while...

1. Yes, it great to have Mouse Over Dizzying Haze
2. I'll add 2 seconds internal delay back, it was like that before WoD
3. This one is a bit hard, to monitor exactly mob HP, I need to use Lua instead of relying on HB API (it always too slow). Unfortunately Lua mean slower performance on overall, I'll bring the Warrior Lua execute code there. (if you try my Warrior CR, you will see he Execute when target drop to 20% right away)
 
I saw this page today and thought it would be helpful for determining the priority for certain abilities (Click on Monk 1h to expand it). You can see touch of death has the highest damage per execution time so it should be highest priority, followed by fists of fury.

Simulationcraft Results
 
As previously mentioned both SEF clones going out at the same time does seem a little abnormal. I use a mouse over macro, but definitely cant get two clones out instantly. I would also like to request that if possible the both does a check for the Tigereye Brew buff before using FoF. Currently my setting have TeB usage disabled so that I can ensure I activate whatever stacks of TeB I have before the end of my FoF CD so that it benefits from it. Also listed the optimal opening sequence for a boss fight etc when using Chi Brew + Serenity which is currently the best choice of talents for single target. Not exactly sure what the CR does/doesn't do in terms of this sort of thing. Hope it's useful to somebody.

- 5 chi using Expel Harm before pull
- Prepot
- ChiWave (while engaging)
- Xuen
- Tiger Palm
- Rising Sun Kick
- 2x Chi Brew
- On use trinkets/racial + TeB
- FoF
- Serenity
- RSK
- Spam BK
- Normal Rotation/priority
 
Please someone give me a good MW setup. I'm getting crushed by a way under geared pally. No idea how he's doing it. Btw we're in 10 man normal highmaul raid
 
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Pyo said:
As previously mentioned both SEF clones going out at the same time does seem a little abnormal. I use a mouse over macro, but definitely cant get two clones out instantly. I would also like to request that if possible the both does a check for the Tigereye Brew buff before using FoF. Currently my setting have TeB usage disabled so that I can ensure I activate whatever stacks of TeB I have before the end of my FoF CD so that it benefits from it. Also listed the optimal opening sequence for a boss fight etc when using Chi Brew + Serenity which is currently the best choice of talents for single target. Not exactly sure what the CR does/doesn't do in terms of this sort of thing. Hope it's useful to somebody.

- 5 chi using Expel Harm before pull
- Prepot
- ChiWave (while engaging)
- Xuen
- Tiger Palm
- Rising Sun Kick
- 2x Chi Brew
- On use trinkets/racial + TeB
- FoF
- Serenity
- RSK
- Spam BK
- Normal Rotation/priority
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vote +1 Tuanha please update this combat routine. At the moment it lacks
 
Ok, so at the moment I'm finding it impossible to use this routine in large groups (basically anything outside of a 5-man). With Framelock disabled, the routine is so slow that it's practically doing nothing. But enabling framelock causes the FPS of my game client to drop to a slideshow.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Lowering graphic settings does not help, and when HB is disabled by framerate goes back up to 40+.
 
runittwiice said:
Why aren't your CR's loading?
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I have no problem with any of Tuanha's CR loading, I have all the paid for one's.
Please check two things,
1. when you downloaded the ZIP, before you unzipped it, did you right click on the ZIP file, Click Properties at the bottom and then click Unblock and the bottom?
2. When you unzip it, the CR will be 2 folders deep, go into the first folder and copy the second folder to the your routines folder, please make sure it looks like this after you have put it in the Routines folder,... "Hounorbuddy/Routines/TuanHAMonkWoD/CR files and folders here..
Hope this helps.
 
3rdSon said:
I have no problem with any of Tuanha's CR loading, I have all the paid for one's.
Please check two things,
1. when you downloaded the ZIP, before you unzipped it, did you right click on the ZIP file, Click Properties at the bottom and then click Unblock and the bottom?
2. When you unzip it, the CR will be 2 folders deep, go into the first folder and copy the second folder to the your routines folder, please make sure it looks like this after you have put it in the Routines folder,... "Hounorbuddy/Routines/TuanHAMonkWoD/CR files and folders here..
Hope this helps.
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Hey,

Thanks for your tips, but, I also use the paid routines and I have them in the correct folder. They were also all unblocked before unzipping.
I've checked some other Tuanha CR threads and there are other people with this problem as well, I've also did an SVN Update on all of them,
but for some reason they just won't load into HB and I'm kind of clueless as to what I need to do to fix this, because it's probably something
on my end if it's working fine for you.

Thanks anyway.
 
runittwiice said:
Hey,

Thanks for your tips, but, I also use the paid routines and I have them in the correct folder. They were also all unblocked before unzipping.
I've checked some other Tuanha CR threads and there are other people with this problem as well, I've also did an SVN Update on all of them,
but for some reason they just won't load into HB and I'm kind of clueless as to what I need to do to fix this, because it's probably something
on my end if it's working fine for you.

Thanks anyway.
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There was a problem with one of the Revisions not loading properly, have you tried SVN Updating the routine to the latest revision from inside the HB/Routines folder?
 
cheesy_beans said:
There was a problem with one of the Revisions not loading properly, have you tried SVN Updating the routine to the latest revision from inside the HB/Routines folder?
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I've just fixed it by updating ALL my Tuanha routines <3 Thanks for the help guys.
 
cheesy_beans said:
Ok, so at the moment I'm finding it impossible to use this routine in large groups (basically anything outside of a 5-man). With Framelock disabled, the routine is so slow that it's practically doing nothing. But enabling framelock causes the FPS of my game client to drop to a slideshow.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Lowering graphic settings does not help, and when HB is disabled by framerate goes back up to 40+.
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Have you tried the following,
when you first start WOW and before you start HD do this.... Ctrl+Alt+Delete, then click, Start Task Manager at the bottom, click the Processes TAB at the top, at the bottom of the list right click on wow.exe*32, mouse over, Set Priority, and left click "High". DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE, I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF YOU CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE.
You should now see a much faster FPS.
Hope this helps.
 
3rdSon said:
Have you tried the following,
when you first start WOW and before you start HD do this.... Ctrl+Alt+Delete, then click, Start Task Manager at the bottom, click the Processes TAB at the top, at the bottom of the list right click on wow.exe*32, mouse over, Set Priority, and left click "High". DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE, I WILL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE IF YOU CHANGE ANYTHING ELSE.
You should now see a much faster FPS.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, I tried this but it made no difference. As soon as the routine starts the FPS drops to unplayable. Once I press "Stop" it goes back to 30-40fps.

It's driving me crazy.
 
Any1 felt dps change in last 5 days ? i went from 25k with power strikes instead of ascension to 16k... Any tips for talents and settings ?
 
I did a fresh install of HB. Lost all my files from Enyo and Tuan. I can still access them in buddy store but they arnt working with the new HB patch. I cant figure out how to update the routine. Someone PLEASE answer.
 
Staramajka said:
Any1 felt dps change in last 5 days ? i went from 25k with power strikes instead of ascension to 16k... Any tips for talents and settings ?
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YES.

I'm noticing significant loss of performance with Brewmaster. Both in DPS and defensive abilities.

It started with the SVN releases that had 'better boss detection' (or something like that).

Currently the Monk profile feels very squishy, weak, slow and terrible. I am doing a lot of testing and I'll try and update with more specifics and logs.
 
Ok tuanha something i noticed is that theres a problem with priorities.
There are so many GCD wasted on chi explosion,renewing mist,expel harm when the tank is really low health.
I keep failing on endless because the tank takes really huge damage and the routine is trying to keep him alive with those 3 spells, ofc he dies ^^
The fact is that if you prioritize the tank over the others when you're in a raid environment and you have to heal the raid it will try to keep the tank up, so as a suggestion maybe you can add an option to toggle that prioritize the tank and if it's not checked work like it's working now.
It's just a suggestion, i will keep using this UI anyway since it's sooo much well written :)
Let me know what you think ;)
 
thatwouldbestealing said:
YES.

I'm noticing significant loss of performance with Brewmaster. Both in DPS and defensive abilities.

It started with the SVN releases that had 'better boss detection' (or something like that).

Currently the Monk profile feels very squishy, weak, slow and terrible. I am doing a lot of testing and I'll try and update with more specifics and logs.
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Cheers. Am also doing testing atm ascension is better (compared to before) also checking with sef on same target and without sef
 
Staramajka said:
Cheers. Am also doing testing atm ascension is better (compared to before) also checking with sef on same target and without sef
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Right now I'm pulling more DPS with Singular than with this routine..

Also whenever it does Flying Serpent Kick, I get spammed with "Can not use ability while pacified" ..
 
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