TuanHA Monk - The Ultimate Experience

[zeldrak]

Is it just me, or are the settings not working properly for mistweaver? I just ran an LFR (which is 25 man easy mode), and with a 472 ilvl I was only doing 20k hps. I was using Tyrael, no framelocks (framelock causes my computer to lag out), and TPS set to 45 (my WoW FPS is 55 during raids). I tried the generic raid settings, I tried the settings provided for 10M Heroic Tsulong-ToEs, and the other two settings files provided by Mosuri and Macyp, but the best healing I could do was 21k HPS.

 

[Clubwar]

Is it just me, or are the settings not working properly for mistweaver? I just ran an LFR (which is 25 man easy mode), and with a 472 ilvl I was only doing 20k hps. I was using Tyrael, no framelocks (framelock causes my computer to lag out), and TPS set to 45 (my WoW FPS is 55 during raids). I tried the generic raid settings, I tried the settings provided for 10M Heroic Tsulong-ToEs, and the other two settings files provided by Mosuri and Macyp, but the best healing I could do was 21k HPS.

I have tHe same problem todas, i try al, profiles and configurtions and the best for hard mode 25 are dungeon settings, always 3-4 skada healing....berrear that always last

 

[Billybob]

I have tHe same problem todas, i try al, profiles and configurtions and the best for hard mode 25 are dungeon settings, always 3-4 skada healing....berrear that always last

Well a lot depends on your comp. If you happen to pop into an LFR with geared folks doing tests and/or trying to rank, then you are going to get lower numbers. I ran this weekend with a D Priest friend who was doing 140k (fucking spirit shells) & I was only doing 8k hps. There was simply nothing to heal. So if you are in a run with shield/absorb classes you output may be shit.

 

[Clubwar]

Well a lot depends on your comp. If you happen to pop into an LFR with geared folks doing tests and/or trying to rank, then you are going to get lower numbers. I ran this weekend with a D Priest friend who was doing 140k (fucking spirit shells) & I was only doing 8k hps. There was simply nothing to heal. So if you are in a run with shield/absorb classes you output may be shit.

In 25 hard mode my RL always try to set the best configuration, and in this momento priest disci and holy are the best healer, and if you have pala ( best healer unitarget) i cant healing nothing.

This night 2 priest 1 pala 1 druid 1 shaman 1 monk ( me)

Priest op, pala op one target, and druid have good dots to heal, shaman shield in tank and power full AOE healing, so What i can heal? Whats is the rol for MW ? In 5.0 WE are op i know, but now, are the worst healers

 

[zeldrak]

In 25 hard mode my RL always try to set the best configuration, and in this momento priest disci and holy are the best healer, and if you have pala ( best healer unitarget) i cant healing nothing.

This night 2 priest 1 pala 1 druid 1 shaman 1 monk ( me)

Priest op, pala op one target, and druid have good dots to heal, shaman shield in tank and power full AOE healing, so What i can heal? Whats is the rol for MW ? In 5.0 WE are op i know, but now, are the worst healers

Everyone was saying that druids were the worst healers, but during each of my raids containing druids, they were always first or second (depending on if there was a priest in the group). Meanwhile, I was always last. There were healers that were barely ilvl enough to get into a raid that were kicking my ass in healing.

 

[demonikcarebear]

Iv'e been a huge fan of this cc since it was released, the 2.0 update i'm having some issues with tho.

My main issue is the auto face, its useless now. It was amazing before the way it was, please bring it back or add an option in the gui.

The logic seems slower, it seems real sluggish especially at the start of combat. Iv'e lost dps with windwalker

I do love the new gui and all the options its great, thank you keep up the good work guys!

 

[zeldrak]

I've also noticed some issues with 2.0 vs 1.0. I'm sure it's because you're still working out the bugs in 2.0, but I've noticed that the healing isn't as good as 1.0 was. When my ilvl was back in the 450s and 460s, while doing LFRs, I would get higher HPS with version 1.0. I'd often break 30k HPS. But, with an ilvl of 472 and version 2.0, I've dropped down to doing between 18-21k HPS. I've also noticed that some of the options aren't registering. I've had to change from using then Xuen talent that some of the mistweavers were using because it's never used. I also noticed that the renewing mist wasn't casting very often, if at all. I don't know how to explain it, but it just doesn't seem like the routine is running properly. I've tried using settings given by Mosuri and Macyp, but neither of which worked out very well for me. It's really hard to explain, and it may very well be that I'm not using the right setup (i.e. botbase, routine settings, etc). I'll post a log of my ToES LFR. You'll see in the log that I changed options several times throughout the raid trying to get better healing numbers, but it just wasn't happening.

 

[tuanha]

I've also noticed some issues with 2.0 vs 1.0. I'm sure it's because you're still working out the bugs in 2.0, but I've noticed that the healing isn't as good as 1.0 was. When my ilvl was back in the 450s and 460s, while doing LFRs, I would get higher HPS with version 1.0. I'd often break 30k HPS. But, with an ilvl of 472 and version 2.0, I've dropped down to doing between 18-21k HPS. I've also noticed that some of the options aren't registering. I've had to change from using then Xuen talent that some of the mistweavers were using because it's never used. I also noticed that the renewing mist wasn't casting very often, if at all. I don't know how to explain it, but it just doesn't seem like the routine is running properly. I've tried using settings given by Mosuri and Macyp, but neither of which worked out very well for me. It's really hard to explain, and it may very well be that I'm not using the right setup (i.e. botbase, routine settings, etc). I'll post a log of my ToES LFR. You'll see in the log that I changed options several times throughout the raid trying to get better healing numbers, but it just wasn't happening.

This is the reason your CR don't heal Zeldrak.

More on this and how to prevent it, please read my Paladin thread FAQ.

[01:07:36.606 D] System.AccessViolationException: Could not read bytes from 01E59EFA [299]!

FYI, error [299] happen to all CR not mine only, it being inspected by HB and I hope they will fix it soon.

Sometime I get error [299] before my CR event loaded so I guess there really nothing I can do now.

 

[zeldrak]

This is the reason your CR don't heal Zeldrak.

More on this and how to prevent it, please read my Paladin thread FAQ.


FYI, error [299] happen to all CR not mine only, it being inspected by HB and I hope they will fix it soon.

Sometime I get error [299] before my CR event loaded so I guess there really nothing I can do now.

I see. After reading about this over in the paladin thread, it seems that tabbing out of WoW will mess up the bot. Since I was using Tyrael (and now, after reading the paladin thread, it seems I should really be using LazyRaider instead, lol) the only time I "tabbed" out of WoW was to click on the routine settings button so I could change my presets in the routine. Other than that I was in WoW the whole time, but it seems it's something that has to be fixed, so I suppose I'll just have to wait it out.

Thanks for giving me the heads up, Tuan. I hope having my log in diagnostic helped out. I'm also glad to see your routines back up in the forums.

 

[mosuri]

@D3vious

i went from uplift 1 @ 97% to 2 @ 91% for testing and for the LFR users because it's25. But i will be changing back to 1 @ 92 for 10m HC, will update it on friday.

 

[maceyp]

Those that are moaning about LFR. I really dont know what your point your trying to make. Sometimes there is only 3 people healing in lfr and you storm the healing. Other times there is 6 healers and you literally have nothing to heal. When doing heroic modes you can play around with the uplift

 

[ilo75]

It's me or the routine is bad to healing?
iLvl 470 => 20k HPS ...
Spamming Spinning Crane Kick so OOM quickly..

Someone has found a good configuration to make it work in raid 10 normal?

 

[Scoofz]

The CC still doesn't DPS the CM'd mates on amber shaper un'sok and still doesn't cast xuen on Sha of fear

 

[D3vious]

It's me or the routine is bad to healing?
iLvl 470 => 20k HPS ...
Spamming Spinning Crane Kick so OOM quickly..

Someone has found a good configuration to make it work in raid 10 normal?

Set SCK to 5 @ 57% or disable it and cast it manually for best mana management.

@D3vious

i went from uplift 1 @ 97% to 2 @ 91% for testing and for the LFR users because it's25. But i will be changing back to 1 @ 92 for 10m HC, will update it on friday.

I'm using 1 @ 93%, works wonders.

I've used your Tsulong settings yesterday and did some awesome healing during the first day phase, the second day phase however I ended up with full mana and being Chi starved. Adding a log tonight if I can find it.

Imo rev.49 still works best for Tsulong ( 120k+ hps with ilvl 492).

 

[tuanha]

The CC still doesn't DPS the CM'd mates on amber shaper un'sok and still doesn't cast xuen on Sha of fear

For CM mate, can you link me the debuff name and id so I can add to enemy list.

For Sha of Fear, I don't know why (unless with a log) as Combat Routine designed to use Xuen on Boss/Elite/Player... Maybe HB bug that report Sha is not a boss? (Well at least manual Xuen 1 every 3 min is not hard )

 

[mosuri]

@D3vious
It's because some code of v1 would slow v2 and thats why you need to manually cast soothing mist + enveloping + surging in 2nd day Phase.tuanha already told that few pages ago.

Im doing ~130k in day phase and around 100k in second night phase with v1 (rev49) and v2. Just keep in mind tsulong needs manual heal second day phase

 

[happyrage]

My report on MistWeaver 25 (HC) by maceyp.

My background:
I am a Mistweaver (506 ilvl) for a decently well progressed guild. We are currently 13/14 HM. I've used the Paladin CC extensively on my alt, however i prefer to manually heal on my main, otherwise whats the point in playing. I decided to test this CC in a hard mode environment, mainly because i get bored on farm content.

I've always played ranged Monk healer only to enter melee if there's nothing to heal or to spin kick on melee. I generally Jab only when im in melee but rarely stay in melee. I was interested in this 25man Fistweaving Setting suggested for 25man Hardmode healing so i decided to try it.

Results: "Bolded HPS is the Bot this week, Unbolded is my manual results last week. aka CR fistweaver setting / Manual ranged. (Theese are ALL HEROIC)

MSV

Stone Guard: 74k / 81k
Feng the Accursed: 51k / 59k
Gara'jal: 44k / 43k (I had to manually heal in spirit realm as... uh.. cant really fistweave, i almost failed healing down there cause i didnt really think about it.)
Spirit Kings: 33k / 37k (almost forgot to pause for shield)
Elegon: 67k /74k
Will: 68k / 78k

HoF

Imperial Vizier: 31k / 43k (really struggles last phase to keep up in melee might have just been my ability to follow the boss and dodge disks.. but none the less)
Blade Lord: 21k / 58k (Failed abysmally, as you cant stack in melee and even in p2 theres not much time in melee.)
Garalon: 80k / 107k (was doing 90ish hitting legs untill i had to do pheremones)
Wind lord: 25k / 48k (Cant stack melee once wind bombs etc)
Amber Shaper: 38k / 65k (honestly there's not much to heal, its just a snipefest)
Grand Emporess: was doing 20-30k... Was unhealable with this setting

Notes:

I did not alter the setting in anyway shape or form.
I have made sure none of the HPS logs i have posted are any of my ranked parses as i do not want to be identified that could lead to my account being compromised.
The manual heals are an average between a few weeks of reviewing logs.

It is Very important to note that myself and my raid team are VERY geared and this was performed on FARM content, At the Rate that we play at now many fights are just Snipe fests at healing. This means its pretty much who ever lands the heals 1st, there are only a few fights that are Huge required healing that are not snipe fests. This is pretty much just Garalon and Empress.

With that in mind my results may not be the results a lesser geared player/guild may find. Meaning a new to 25man heroic may have better or worse results. I am just Sharing what my results are.

My Opinion:

Personally i think this style is interesting and may help quite a few people at the entry of 25man heroic. However it is important to note this setting will not work for fights that you can not stay in melee for such as Grand Empress and Blade Lord. I believe that it could be viable to use if you edited it to have more capable ranged healing for those fights though.

Personally i am of the opinion that Ranged Monk > Melee Monk healing how ever as far as this CR settings, i could be wrong as i have not tested a Ranged monk setting.

This setting is not Viable for a Few Fights on its own such as emporess it is 100% cannot do it, and Garajal you need to manually heal if you need to enter the spirit realm.

I manually heal better than this Setting. However i am confident there are settings out there that will destroy me, as there are with the Paladin CR.


I am willing to test any settings anyone may have in a 25man Heroic setting if people wish for me to test them or specific fight settings.


I hope this helped people.

 

[nevigrofnu]

My report on MistWeaver 25 (HC) by maceyp.

My background:
I am a Mistweaver (506 ilvl) for a decently well progressed guild. We are currently 13/14 HM. I've used the Paladin CC extensively on my alt, however i prefer to manually heal on my main, otherwise whats the point in playing. I decided to test this CC in a hard mode environment, mainly because i get bored on farm content.

I've always played ranged Monk healer only to enter melee if there's nothing to heal or to spin kick on melee. I generally Jab only when im in melee but rarely stay in melee. I was interested in this 25man Fistweaving Setting suggested for 25man Hardmode healing so i decided to try it.

Results: "Bolded HPS is the Bot this week, Unbolded is my manual results last week. aka CR fistweaver setting / Manual ranged. (Theese are ALL HEROIC)

MSV

Stone Guard: 74k / 81k
Feng the Accursed: 51k / 59k
Gara'jal: 44k / 43k (I had to manually heal in spirit realm as... uh.. cant really fistweave, i almost failed healing down there cause i didnt really think about it.)
Spirit Kings: 33k / 37k (almost forgot to pause for shield)
Elegon: 67k /74k
Will: 68k / 78k

HoF

Imperial Vizier: 31k / 43k (really struggles last phase to keep up in melee might have just been my ability to follow the boss and dodge disks.. but none the less)
Blade Lord: 21k / 58k (Failed abysmally, as you cant stack in melee and even in p2 theres not much time in melee.)
Garalon: 80k / 107k (was doing 90ish hitting legs untill i had to do pheremones)
Wind lord: 25k / 48k (Cant stack melee once wind bombs etc)
Amber Shaper: 38k / 65k (honestly there's not much to heal, its just a snipefest)
Grand Emporess: was doing 20-30k... Was unhealable with this setting

Notes:

I did not alter the setting in anyway shape or form.
I have made sure none of the HPS logs i have posted are any of my ranked parses as i do not want to be identified that could lead to my account being compromised.
The manual heals are an average between a few weeks of reviewing logs.

It is Very important to note that myself and my raid team are VERY geared and this was performed on FARM content, At the Rate that we play at now many fights are just Snipe fests at healing. This means its pretty much who ever lands the heals 1st, there are only a few fights that are Huge required healing that are not snipe fests. This is pretty much just Garalon and Empress.

With that in mind my results may not be the results a lesser geared player/guild may find. Meaning a new to 25man heroic may have better or worse results. I am just Sharing what my results are.

My Opinion:

Personally i think this style is interesting and may help quite a few people at the entry of 25man heroic. However it is important to note this setting will not work for fights that you can not stay in melee for such as Grand Empress and Blade Lord. I believe that it could be viable to use if you edited it to have more capable ranged healing for those fights though.

Personally i am of the opinion that Ranged Monk > Melee Monk healing how ever as far as this CR settings, i could be wrong as i have not tested a Ranged monk setting.

This setting is not Viable for a Few Fights on its own such as emporess it is 100% cannot do it, and Garajal you need to manually heal if you need to enter the spirit realm.

I manually heal better than this Setting. However i am confident there are settings out there that will destroy me, as there are with the Paladin CR.


I am willing to test any settings anyone may have in a 25man Heroic setting if people wish for me to test them or specific fight settings.


I hope this helped people.

At the very start, when it was released I was always fist weaving. I have found ranged with chi torpedo to be the best HPS in my opinion, I would only go into melee range if I need to jab manually to get chi quickly and I would rarely use SCK, although I am now playing my paladin instead I would say to people work with what works for you, but give ranged a go and I'm sure it'll work out well.

 

[Scoofz]

For CM mate, can you link me the debuff name and id so I can add to enemy list.

For Sha of Fear, I don't know why (unless with a log) as Combat Routine designed to use Xuen on Boss/Elite/Player... Maybe HB bug that report Sha is not a boss? (Well at least manual Xuen 1 every 3 min is not hard )

The boss casts reshape life to turn you in a mutated construct so i guess the debuff must be called mutated construct (couldn't find the info ^^ will probably kill him this week tho)

Did you have time to look through my log to see why the CC takes forever to consume the 10 charges of tigereye brew?

 

[devilady]

Can anyone tell me what is the difference between donor version and public release?
its 300pages, its hard to find anything.