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"The monk cannon" - a budget fast and effective monk build for Act 3 champion farming

ive heard using buriza is great for scoundrel? or windforce...buriza kinda expensive
 
Windforce will knock back - not wanted.
Buriza might help - but you lose around 200 vit on scoundrel
 
mephuser1000 said:
Trying very hard to convince myself using this for a BOT over a Rend/Revenge/Frenzy Barb.

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Tested this on my 50k dps, 50k hp, 800 All Resists, sadly 3.5k armor Monk:
The death rate is somewhat extremely high (16 per hour) if you fail to kill the elite within 4 to 6 sec. Elites with Shielding Affix and Ground Effects is a confirm death case. Phase Beasts, Succubi, Occultists, Tremors are a guaranteed death.

EDIT2:
250 to 290 Items dropped per hour, 38 Items actually picked up, 80k/30k/30k score.

I mean a Barb is seriously alot more Overpowered(OP) than the Monk in terms of:
- 1 Str = 1 Armor (Monk will have an armor deficiency of 1k to 2k pts, which leads to the Monk taking between 10% to 20% more dmg than the Barb, unless Monk takes "Seize the Initiative")
- Ruthless passive gives Barbs +5% Crit Chance, +50% Crit Dmg
- Str Gear is still cheaper than Dex Gear
- Rend: Bloodlust > Sweeping Wind: Whatever rune in terms of dmg output and healback
- 20 Fury HOTA: Smash is easier to spam than 75 Spirit WoL: Explosive Light
- Revenge/Rend/Ignore Pain does more dmg + healing than Breath of Heaven and Serenity

Also you should at least farm Act3 MP1 for the chance for every ilvl58 to ilvl62 items to roll ilvl63 stats.
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Maybe you need to learn how to gear a character. I just made a monk that runs MP1:

Buff DPS 92k, 600 All resist, 3.8k armor, 27k HP.

===== Misc Statistics =====
Total tracking time: 3h 2m 2s
Total deaths: 8 [2.64 per hour]
Total games (approx): 0 [0 per hour]
Total full profile cycles: 4 [1.32 per hour]

===== Item DROP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items dropped: 1779 [586.36 per hour]

===== Item PICKUP Statistics =====
Items:
Total items picked up: 223 [73.5 per hour]

Only have a base 50% MF, fresh plvl 5 Monk. Elites disappear before my eyes (700k crits are awesome). And honestly your comparison between a monk and barb is horrible.

- Armor only affects physical damage, which is barely an issue in the first place. Are you forgetting dodge? Bad point. (Armor reduces all damage, corrected by methuser)
- Ruthless...okay 5% more crit chance and 50% more crit damage, so?
- Str gear is cheaper than dex? Where are you from, 5 months ago?
- Sweeping wind doesn't do any healing unless there is LS. Right off the bat this is a broken comparison. They aren't runes, they are skills. Sweeping wind is not the main DPS output here, neither is Rend for barbs, they are both utility skills to supplement the character.
- Stick with your HoTA, I like clearing an entire room with WoL better.
- Neither Serenity nor Breath of Heaven does damage (unless you rune BoH, but why?). Serenity doesn't do any healing (Unless you rune it, but seriously why?). And really if you're using those 3 skills on your barb, you're bad.

All mobs in Act 3 are lvl 63. There is no difference between MP0 or MP1, stop spouting nonsense. God I hope you're trolling.

Thanks tesslerc for all your work into this, it really is something worth looking into if anyone is going to try out a monk.
 
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Bottletorch said:
- Armor only affects physical damage, which is barely an issue in the first place. Are you forgetting dodge? Bad point.

All mobs in Act 3 are lvl 63. There is no difference between MP0 or MP1, stop spouting nonsense. God I hope you're trolling.
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You are the one spouting nonsense here.

1) Armor mitigates Elemental Dmg.
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...ing-act-3-armor-vs-all-resist-monk-build.html

2) MP0 Act3 Mobs can't roll ilvl 63 affixes on ilvl58-62 items
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...ctive-farming-why-not-worry-about-builds.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/77953-mp0-vs-mp1-act3-2.html#post791025

Now, one could argue that the fact that MP1+ makes all mobs ilvl 63 means you have more potential for good items since item affix's are now based off of monster level and not item level. But the few mobs that are ilvl 63 instead of ilvl 62 in act 3 (since act 3 is all ilvl 62 and 63) would not outweigh the 30% health to all mobs.
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can someone write all the armor items we would need to make this build work please instead of only giving out like 3 items. please help, thanks.
 
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mephuser1000 said:
You are the one spouting nonsense here.

1) Armor mitigates Elemental Dmg.
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...ing-act-3-armor-vs-all-resist-monk-build.html

2) MP0 Act3 Mobs can't roll ilvl 63 affixes on ilvl58-62 items
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonb...ctive-farming-why-not-worry-about-builds.html
http://www.thebuddyforum.com/demonbuddy-forum/77953-mp0-vs-mp1-act3-2.html#post791025
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Good job quoting unofficial sources. I was wrong about the armor (had to search myself on that for something more credible as the topic itself never mentions anything about it reducing elemental damage).

And ALL mobs in act 3 are level 63 you nit wit. Again with the quoting of some random dude. I could quote random people as well, and I can assure you the vast majority agree that all mobs in A3 are level 63. Find an official source. So then, care to explain the rest of your crap?

vandaaaaal said:
here are my specs, please help me out.View attachment 62867
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More crit chance is definitely needed, like 30-ish. If you're going for A3, you'll need more dps, more life per kill (2.5k+ I suppose, read the guide) and more health (25k+ according to the guide). Go back to page 7 tesselrc has listed all his gear and stats.
 
thanks guys. how much gold do you guys think i would have to spend? only got 700kLOL
 
i saw. but can you give me a quote on how much you spent please? my bot currently produces 100k per hour and i only got 1 mill.
 
this is a very expensive build... tried buying rings with those stats, and its like 80mill lol. i dont even got 2 mill idk how im going to do this.
 
vandaaaaal said:
this is a very expensive build... tried buying rings with those stats, and its like 80mill lol. i dont even got 2 mill idk how im going to do this.
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One of the rings cost 1.5m, the other with LoH I found but same without LoH cost 1-2 mil.

Build is 15-20m I made one 3 days ago (the one I posted the stats)
 
spent 18mill so far.. still need gold for the rings. anybody know a way around the specs of the rings to get the price lower and make the rings still work for this build? thanks.
 
vandaaaaal said:
spent 18mill so far.. still need gold for the rings. anybody know a way around the specs of the rings to get the price lower and make the rings still work for this build? thanks.
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Use a spreadsheet and distribute the dex/vit/attack speed/whatever stats on all gear before actually buying the stuff.

tesslerc's Monk guide actually got posted on some other botting forums. People are actually buying gear by the 10s, 20s and even 50 bots, so I expect the gear to inflate in prices.

Since you already bought the items before planning, you're left with 2 options: Farm more gold or Buy more gold.
 
yea i didnt plan this out... i bought more gold so im up to 12mill atm. thanks for a great answer mephuser1000. happy botting!
 
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