Soo.. Am I screwed?

[d1n]

ohh cmoon, they can't ban you because you stopped playing.) bliz is business like any other, they are pushed by greedy shareholders and needs to generate profit - from this view, they simply can't afford to ban everybody, who is botting..

 

[holynorth]

What if Blizzard made a slight change to Warden just to see who stops playing X amount of hours?

Like for instance,u been playing your level 78 shammy for one to two days straight then all of a sudden u stop playing during the hours (usually over night) and dont bother touching it until u think its safe and thats how they get u....


lol just saying...

That would result in an incredible amount of false positives and would not be worth their time.

 

[Tony]

This right here. The Buddy moderators don't have a great record of knowing what's going on with all aspects of their bots.

last time i checked your name couldnt find it within our team's lists
so what a staff member knows or not,you are the last person you would be aware of

Once again, another contradictory message between 2 moderators. One says the bot isn't detected, one says to be careful, implying they don't know. but you mods really need to get your answers in line.

What is hard for you to understand?Hb is not detected and what we suggesting is for the next 30 days is to be careful,thats pretty straight and clear
Idk for what reason do you expect from us to explain you or public ,IF we have found any changes on warden and IF we have found something WHAT is that.
We dont expect from people that down know how warden works and what a change on it means,to understand that technical part.
So i suggest you stop posting around like you know what is going on...

Your broad statement is as bad as Tony's, JimT.


Who are you to say that the values changed in a way that made it that HB isn't fully detected now? You are absolutely in no position to state anything of the sort, so please don't make such comments.

Next time take a look on the mirror and say that plz

If they had a full and complete understanding of the updates, it would not take them 30 days to report on it, they are insecure, they are a business, 30 days of COMPLETE downtime would result in a huge loss of business. Dont be arrogant, its a tradeoff of loosing a lot of business, and taking a chance based on a gut feeling. They are taking a chance based on a gut feeling, its super obvious. If they were confident, they would not say there is an increased risk, if they are confident, they would not need 30 days to report on the changes

We would have not a single problem to shut down shop IF there was a good reason for it

To build off this comment,


If anyone remember the RIFT days, their bot was software detected once a week for almost a month concurrently. They NEVER said it was "Detected" they said they believed they fixed it, then the rebuilt the hook and said the same thing, it never was.


Many of you guys here are putting too much faith in the words of people around here, and you really should not. You should be asking questions, and you should be asking for confirmation of information provided by moderators. I am not saying they are lying, i am saying there is a communications issue that needs to be addressed. Speak up, your accounts are still in the hands of the people that build that rift bot.

Rift bot was a totally different case
And again if you ask me,there was no Software detection...you have to understand the difference between detection and software detection

It's feedback dude. Voicing an opinion to Help better this place. Why are you hating on that?

when someone with zero knowledge about warden and stuff posts random things from his head is not the feedback or help you are talking about,its no sense and stupid imo

Perhaps the Warden update had something to do with the release of the new Hearthstone expansion (Curse of Naxxramas)? They practically released at the same time, maybe they're looking for bots in Hearthstone? Or is it confirmed not to be so?

Not at all

Is this a fact or if are they in a month or two going to send out a banwave? How do you know that HB is not detected. You are a super mod so please if you can give a little bit more info into this because I don't feel like losing all my accounts.

i am here since day one,rule number one and what i am saying to people is "Do not bot on an acc you cant stand lose"

You are the most autistic, and administrator loving little retard I have ever met.

3days mute
calling someone autistic you wont make you a better person for sure but it can give you a small break on these forums

Buddy community consists of vegetable moderators like Tony...

perma ban,we had enough from you



So,i will keep this thread open just not to make you think that we have something to hide(the thread is useless anyways when people dont have a simple idea what they are talking about)

BUT

before you post here again,you have to prove to me via pm or email at [email protected],that you have the basic,at least,knowledge about how warden works and the latest changes it had IF there were changes
links,quotes,copy/paste from other users on this or other dev/bot forums does not count as your personal knowledge

since some people cant keep it civil we had to take action


personal attacks on this thread will receive perma ban

 

[Xarian]

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I am sorry you think i do not know what i speak of regarding the rift days. Please bear in mind, i was the one that blatantly posted a code snippet on your rift forums that would detect your bot, which even got hawker to contact me in PMs, which even made you guys rewrite your hook(which did not fix the issue)

The thread made several pages of people crying that now trion will ban them even faster, if you have your archives still, i suggest you go read it, it was a good thread, and it was, software detection as you were injecting obvious .net in the process which trion was detecting.

Not that rift or their anti cheat relates to WoW, i was merely pointing out your answer to my post in regards to rift, and as such i disregarded your notice about proving knowledge of warden, as i will not go on to discuss warden activities here.
Regards

 

[McWeiss]

nevermind

-delete post-

 

[hellschild]

haha ouch

 

[Hawker]

I went to bed, I guess right before the tripwire.. Woke up and went to work, came home and started my bots up as I didn't have time before work. So, what I'm wondering is, is HB just straight up detected, and they're just waiting for a mega banwave and my accounts are done for?

If so, if I transferred a couple characters of importance over to a different bnet account, would the bnet account, that is legitimate, that I'm transferring to be a target to be banned after transferring the characters?
Kind of feel fucked now.

We can't discuss the technical issues. Sorry if that bothers you. If we are allowing HB to run, you can assume we feel its as safe as botting can be.

 

[Coolio99]

We can't discuss the technical issues. Sorry if that bothers you. If we are allowing HB to run, you can assume we feel its as safe as botting can be.

Thanks for the response, Hawker. People just need to be patient and understand that unlike pretty much every other bot, HB does a good job of keeping your account as safe as possible (there's always a risk, obviously). If people want to keep complaining about downtime or whatever, they should just go use other bots but they shouldn't be surprised when a PQR/PE debacle happens again. Everything is risk/reward.

 

[ginuwine12]

Thanks for the response, Hawker. People just need to be patient and understand that unlike pretty much every other bot, HB does a good job of keeping your account as safe as possible (there's always a risk, obviously). If people want to keep complaining about downtime or whatever, they should just go use other bots but they shouldn't be surprised when a PQR/PE debacle happens again. Everything is risk/reward.

HB is the mother of all bots out there no matter what there is nothing better : ) i like this bot so much hope we get new news

 

[lckwjl]

GG Tony I cant believe how many stupid people come on to the forums when stuff like this happens. This is the risk of botting y'all.. if you haven't been banned it will happen one day. They say it hasn't been detected and I believe them. As to the dozens of insane conspiracy theories.. well that's just what they are theories (typically based on absolute bullshit).

 

[Ente23]

I would find it cool if you can explain what was changed in warden. The method of detecting a bot? The way it checks the memory for changes/hooks? Or if warden just dumps the memory and streight up goes to a blizz server with it.

 

[Coolio99]

I would find it cool if you can explain what was changed in warden. The method of detecting a bot? The way it checks the memory for changes/hooks? Or if warden just dumps the memory and streight up goes to a blizz server with it.

I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for them to publicly state what has changed with Warden. Blizzard should be given no information about what HB can or can't detect. Seriously people, use your heads. I know it sucks being in the dark but just trust HB for once. There's legal battles going on and if HB started publicly saying what has changed that would give Blizzard tons of information about how HB can detect changes and that they need to change Warden even more.

Even if they said what has changed, what would you do with it? Are you a professional programmer? It literally would make no difference.

 

[nexxremes]

I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for them to publicly state what has changed with Warden. Blizzard should be given no information about what HB can or can't detect. Seriously people, use your heads. I know it sucks being in the dark but just trust HB for once. There's legal battles going on and if HB started publicly saying what has changed that would give Blizzard tons of information about how HB can detect changes and that they need to change Warden even more.

Hey! We've been trusting HB ever since we started using it.

 

[Tony]

as its clearly stated

we wont share more info about warden or what changed or not

 

[clorex]

Sooo, correct me if i'm wrong, but i guess if i haven't been banned yet i can still bot with my glad suite CR and not worry? thank god if so, cause i'm doing it right now xD

 

[Coolio99]

Sooo, correct me if i'm wrong, but i guess if i haven't been banned yet i can still bot with my glad suite CR and not worry? thank god if so, cause i'm doing it right now xD

Blizzard can do delayed bans. There's no guarantee.

 

[clorex]

Not saying it's undetectible or something, but the way it behaves causes low chance of a report, IMHO. Not getting reported => verry little chance of a ban. Just my opinion though. Don't care anyways, if i get a ban i'll just buy a new acc and lvl every char i had with HB again. I only play arenas so who cares xD

 

[krillin]

your mario bee is sexy sir just want you to know that =)

 

[bap30]

Hi guys, I've got a question but I didn't want to create a new thread for this. I didn't find any information about this so here it is :

If I'm running 2 wow on the same computer, and HB only on one of them, is there any chance the account manually played could get banned ? I mean, we don't really know what the warden does, so if it finds something wrong, do you think it could be associated to the non-botting account ? I guess that if the warden suspects you a GM should see your in-game behavior but I don't really know...

Thanks for giving your opinion

 

[hellschild]

Hi guys, I've got a question but I didn't want to create a new thread for this. I didn't find any information about this so here it is :

If I'm running 2 wow on the same computer, and HB only on one of them, is there any chance the account manually played could get banned ? I mean, we don't really know what the warden does, so if it finds something wrong, do you think it could be associated to the non-botting account ? I guess that if the warden suspects you a GM should see your in-game behavior but I don't really know...

Thanks for giving your opinion

If you have never botted on it or sent gold from a botting account to it then you should be fine. I guess blizz could ban it as I've heard reports of them banning without real proof but who knows if thats true and I'm pretty sure if you appealed it they would have to look into it further and see you had not botted on it.